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Giving Ukraine Tomahawk cruise missiles would scare Mad Vlad — and bring peace
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Ukrainian sources confirm that the country was only able to survive Russia’s original onslaught, when the world expected Kyiv to fall in days, because President Donald Trump had provided it with Javelin missiles in his first term.

Now he can end the war by arming Ukraine with game-changing Tomahawk long-range missiles and other munitions.

Reportedly, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky made that ask in his Tuesday sitdown with Trump.

Trump now says Ukraine can win the war and retake land captured by Russia — perhaps even Crimea, which President Barack Obama passively let Vladimir Putin seize in 2014.

The US Navy and the British Royal Navy both deploy Tomahawks able to strike land-based targets from surface ships and submarines; Washington has sold or is talking sales to Australia, Japan and the Netherlands, and certainly could swiftly sell some to EU nations to deliver to Kyiv.

With a range over 1,500 miles and a 900-pound warhead, these air-defense-evading cruise missiles (and launchers for them) would crucially increase the lethality of Ukraine’s defense forces — the capacity alone would oblige the Kremlin to pull its airbases much farther behind the front, and so vastly reduce the daily horrors Moscow now inflicts on Ukraine’s civilians.

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Ukraine was reportedly buying weapons from us, I guess with the success of their drones I'd buy cruise missiles that have greater range.

I know punk boy Z wants a fist fighting bar brawl, but that's the smarter way.
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Rep. Doris Matsui (D) has been pushing to send old Tomahawks to Ukraine for a long time now. I am not a fan of hers but since she is leaving Congress next year I hope she gets credit for this idea.
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Ukraine was reportedly buying weapons from us, I guess with the success of their drones I'd buy cruise missiles that have greater range.

I know punk boy Z wants a fist fighting bar brawl, but that's the smarter way.

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I seriously don't get the Z bootlicking fetish on this forum. Ukraine needs better leadership.
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I seriously don't get the Z bootlicking fetish on this forum. Ukraine needs better leadership.

Ah yes, the ad hominem - such a brilliant logical strategy.

So tell me, it is your psychic ability that allows you to read Zelenskyy's mind and say exactly what he wants, or is Doris down the street giving you a two-for-one special, reading your chakras and Zelenskyy's mind for you for the same price?
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Ah yes, the ad hominem - such a brilliant logical strategy.

So tell me, it is your psychic ability that allows you to read Zelenskyy's mind and say exactly what he wants, or is Doris down the street giving you a two-for-one special, reading your chakras and Zelenskyy's mind for you for the same price?

Again, why are you defending him? The guy has proven  himself generally incompetent. Are you for the greater good of Ukraine or some Chad who runs around like a fire starting little punk?
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Again, why are you defending him? The guy has proven  himself generally incompetent. Are you for the greater good of Ukraine or some Chad who runs around like a fire starting little punk?

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No, wait, that deserves a two-fer:

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Again, why are you defending him? The guy has proven  himself generally incompetent. Are you for the greater good of Ukraine or some Chad who runs around like a fire starting little punk?

Z has fought Russia to a standstill. That's one hell of an achievement yet you think you could do better?

How would you defend Ukraine from a Russian invasion?
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No, wait, that deserves a two-fer:

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You obviously don't have an argument. Hate to tell you but you don't sit at the left hand of Jesus. Does Z-boot taste  good?

But for real, why can't you separate Z from the greater good of Ukraine? Why won't you accept the idea of new leadership for Ukraine?
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Z has fought Russia to a standstill. That's one hell of an achievement yet you think you could do better?

How would you defend Ukraine from a Russian invasion?

He wouldn't.  He'd have taken the bribe from Putin in 2022 and literally accepted thirty pieces of silver to sell out all of Ukraine.
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You obviously don't have an argument. Hate to tell you but you don't sit at the left hand of Jesus. Does Z-boot taste  good?

But for real, why can't you separate Z from the greater good of Ukraine? Why won't you accept the idea of new leadership for Ukraine?

Once again with the ad hominens.  "Boot licker"??  Is that the best your weak Putin-ass-loving mouth can come up with?  Too much brown lipstick on from TOS?

Let's see if you can swallow what you're so keen to dish out.
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Z has fought Russia to a standstill. That's one hell of an achievement yet you think you could do better?

How would you defend Ukraine from a Russian invasion?

By doing what they've been doing - cutting Russia's oil industry off at the knees. Do you think Z came up with that? He wanted tanks and planes and a traditional war paid for by the US, and now he wants a Hitler like wonder weapon to take out Moscow in one big frontal attack.

The guy is terminally, congenitally stupid, not to mention a punk and a grifter. Is Z Ukraine? Is Ukraine Z. Why would you want this playground dufus to continue to be the leader when he obviously can't lead?

Why can't the bootlickers separate Z from Ukraine?
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Once again with the ad hominens.  "Boot licker"??  Is that the best your weak Putin-ass-loving mouth can come up with?  Too much brown lipstick on from TOS?

Let's see if you can swallow what you're so keen to dish out.

There you go, the old zippy skippy slide and shuffle, dip dive and dodge.

Again why is it would will not separate Z and Ukraine? Why MUST he be the leader when he's completely incompetent?
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There you go, the old zippy skippy slide and shuffle, dip dive and dodge.

Again why is it would will not separate Z and Ukraine? Why MUST he be the leader when he's completely incompetent?

Awww, can't think of anything better?

Keeping the Russian bear at bay for 3 years - I don't think you really understand the words you're using - how very progressive of you.
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Awww, can't think of anything better?

Keeping the Russian bear at bay for 3 years - I don't think you really understand the words you're using - how very progressive of you.

Spinny spinny spinny, flip and project.

Tell me, why would you support a guy who's big idea is a Hitler wonder weapon to take out Moscow when Ukraine has been successful with drones dismantling their oil industry?

Why would you want to support someone who wants to indiscriminately butcher people so he can prove his big swagger?
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Spinny spinny spinny, flip and project.

Tell me, why would you support a guy who's big idea is a Hitler wonder weapon to take out Moscow when Ukraine has been successful with drones dismantling their oil industry?

Why would you want to support someone who wants to indiscriminately butcher people so he can prove his big swagger?

Just who do you think has been developing and pushing his field units to use drones?  What kind of a f**king moron thinks that the constant use of drones by Ukraine was just some gift from the rainbow-colored unicorns bestowed on the lowly field troops without any action at all by Ukrainian leadership?

You'd be better off at TOS, all things considered.  More your intellectual level of discourse.
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Just who do you think has been developing and pushing his field units to use drones?  What kind of a f**king moron thinks that the constant use of drones by Ukraine was just some gift from the rainbow-colored unicorns bestowed on the lowly field troops without any action at all by Ukrainian leadership?

You'd be better off at TOS, all things considered.  More your intellectual level of discourse.

The drones have been used in spite of him. Z has pushed traditional warfare since day one, and now he's doing it again with his Hitler wonder weapon idea of slaughter civilians right on the street. And you applaud him.

So give me a break that it was his idea, or that he wanted it. He's just nothing but bloodlust and revenge.

And you're right there with him.
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And that's all you got. Problem is you're nobody's Pope or Personal Jesus.

Hope bathing in that blood feels good.
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Yep, plug my ears and say la la la. The God Complex does not want to debate.
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By doing what they've been doing - cutting Russia's oil industry off at the knees.

So Z is just as 'incompetent' as you are. Because you don't have any better ideas than he has.
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Z has fought Russia to a standstill. That's one hell of an achievement yet you think you could do better?

How would you defend Ukraine from a Russian invasion?
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Not bad for a guy who made his living as a comedian.

The Putin suckers on TOS used to go on litanies of epithets calling Zelensky a faggot, Nazi, clown, corrupt, imbecile, and etc. and I'd say, "Okay, so let's say all that is true. Then what kind of an utter moron is Putin to be bested by such a man?"

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So Z is just as 'incompetent' as you are. Because you don't have any better ideas than he has.

Oh, do you think you're clever with the shifty sidestep? Z has at best been lukewarm about drones. He has always wanted the big weaponry because he's a little punk with little man's syndrome who wants to stomp and slaughter Russians. You're trying to lionize him because get past the smoke and it's all a fraud.

He's got the perfect vehicle to bring them to their knees and what does he ask for? A Hitler wonder weapon to indiscriminately slaughter Muscovites and escalate the war. Dude doesn't want to win, he wants to spill oceans of blood.

And a number of you here are all good with that. That's why you don't want us all to look behind the green curtain, because you all will be exposed. So you call us Russian shills because we don't want genocide and slaughter.
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Oh, do you think you're clever with the shifty sidestep? Z has at best been lukewarm about drones. He has always wanted the big weaponry because he's a little punk with little man's syndrome who wants to stomp and slaughter Russians. You're trying to lionize him because get past the smoke and it's all a fraud.

He's got the perfect vehicle to bring them to their knees and what does he ask for? A Hitler wonder weapon to indiscriminately slaughter Muscovites and escalate the war. Dude doesn't want to win, he wants to spill oceans of blood.

And a number of you here are all good with that. That's why you don't want us all to look behind the green curtain, because you all will be exposed. So you call us Russian shills because we don't want genocide and slaughter.
How many times have we heard "Cut the head off the snake and the body dies." That would not involve genocide, something the Ukrainians found out about during the Holodomor.

It would involve a change in leadership in Russia if the operation succeeded. The rest of Russia would go on.
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Ukraine needs better leadership.

And who would that be?
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Oh, do you think you're clever with the shifty sidestep? Z has at best been lukewarm about drones. He has always wanted the big weaponry because he's a little punk with little man's syndrome who wants to stomp and slaughter Russians. You're trying to lionize him because get past the smoke and it's all a fraud.

At the outset of the war the big weaponry was part of conventional thinking. In 2022 the prevailing thought was that Ukraine needed tanks and aircraft to defeat Russia. Being denied those weapons the Ukrainians improvised and used drones to destroy Russia's tanks and aircraft.

In doing so the Ukrainians changed the face of war.

He's got the perfect vehicle to bring them to their knees and what does he ask for? A Hitler wonder weapon to indiscriminately slaughter Muscovites and escalate the war. Dude doesn't want to win, he wants to spill oceans of blood.

Russia started a war because they wanted to put their empire back together. They slaughtered civilians with deliberate and targeted attacks on hospitals, schools, apartment buildings, and they were as usual monstrous bastards when they first invaded Ukraine. The uncensored video of these atrocities remains on Rumble to be seen if you wish.

There is also abundant video of Russians celebrating these slaughters.

And a number of you here are all good with that. That's why you don't want us all to look behind the green curtain, because you all will be exposed. So you call us Russian shills because we don't want genocide and slaughter.

Hypocrite. You want the Ukrainians annihilated and cry like little bitches when your precious Russians get slaughtered in return.

Tell your Russian friends to end their war and go home and the war can end today. Russians can stop dying in Ukraine.

Or...Ukraine will keep killing Russians in Russia.

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And who would that be?

No one because Z will never let it happen.
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At the outset of the war the big weaponry was part of conventional thinking. In 2022 the prevailing thought was that Ukraine needed tanks and aircraft to defeat Russia. Being denied those weapons the Ukrainians improvised and used drones to destroy Russia's tanks and aircraft.

In doing so the Ukrainians changed the face of war.

Which had nothing to do with Z. It happened in spite of Z. You keep trying to create this alternative reality that he was the author and brainchild of it. Z to this day wants big weapons, just like he wants to bomb Moscow with.

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Russia started a war because they wanted to put their empire back together. They slaughtered civilians with deliberate and targeted attacks on hospitals, schools, apartment buildings, and they were as usual monstrous bastards when they first invaded Ukraine. The uncensored video of these atrocities remains on Rumble to be seen if you wish.

There is also abundant video of Russians celebrating these slaughters.

Hypocrite. You want the Ukrainians annihilated and cry like little bitches when your precious Russians get slaughtered in return.

And there you go. That's what you really want - revenge, slaughter, blood, and retriburtion. You got not problem with laying Moscow to waste just to equal the scales. You could care less that there's a better way to fight the war, or for that matter kick Z out and let the Ukrainians fight it.


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Tell your Russian friends to end their war and go home and the war can end today. Russians can stop dying in Ukraine.

Or...Ukraine will keep killing Russians in Russia.

Slava Ukrainiitipping hat!!

And that's why you're a Z bootlicker. You want blood. That's all you want. If everyone dies so be it, you got your pound of flesh. And that's what Z wants, and why you won't entertain any better leadership, because you want to kill 'em all. And everyone in your child like mind is a Russian bot because they don't want your slaughter and genocide.
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No one because Z will never let it happen.

Non-answer.  You have no clue.
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A Putin puppet, no doubt.

Putin wants to re-install his toadie Yanukovych but at this point, he'd be strung up on sight.

The only other possible viable political rivals of Zelensky are Zaluzhny (an even more hardcore Nationalist), Poroshenko (who Zelensky defeated in 2019 but had been fighting Putin since 2014), and Tymoshenko (who Yanukovych locked up for opposing him and Putin).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerii_Zaluzhnyi

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko

So pick one, @Free Vulcan...
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Which had nothing to do with Z. It happened in spite of Z.

And you know this how, exactly?
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I still believe that this isn't our war.  The animosity  between the two has been going on for decades.

Is Vlad out of control? Yes. Zelenskyy as well.

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I still believe that this isn't our war.  The animosity  between the two has been going on for decades.

Is Vlad out of control? Yes. Zelenskyy as well.


Of course not.   Better to cozy up with the dictator that to support a smaller nation fighting for its freedom and liberty against the dictator. 

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Of course not.   Better to cozy up with the dictator that to support a smaller nation fighting for its freedom and liberty against the dictator. 

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You're  losing sight of the long history of aggression between the two nations.

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Which had nothing to do with Z. It happened in spite of Z. You keep trying to create this alternative reality that he was the author and brainchild of it.

This is a figment of your overly active agenda. It's one of the hallmarks of a troll to try to make people defend things they never said.

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And there you go. That's what you really want - revenge, slaughter, blood, and retriburtion. You got not problem with laying Moscow to waste just to equal the scales. You could care less that there's a better way to fight the war, or for that matter kick Z out and let the Ukrainians fight it.

If Moscow wants to make war then let them have war.

And that's why you're a Z bootlicker. You want blood. That's all you want. If everyone dies so be it, you got your pound of flesh. And that's what Z wants, and why you won't entertain any better leadership, because you want to kill 'em all. And everyone in your child like mind is a Russian bot because they don't want your slaughter and genocide.

The people responsible for the slaughter and genocide are all Russian. Russia started this needless war with their cowardly sneak attack in 2014. They followed on with another ham-handed sneak attack in 2022 and they are getting themselves slaughtered on Ukrainian soil.

If they pack up and go home the slaughter stops.

If they won't end their stupid war then I am all for whoever does them harm and causes them pain.

Also, you are seemingly bent on making this personal between you and I. Is this what you want? If not then stop making it personal.
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You're  losing sight of the long history of aggression between the two nations.

No, I’m not.  Russia has consistently been the aggressor and has tried to snuff out Ukraine repeatedly. 


It’s disgusting how many posters, even on this forum, are so willing to sell out the liberties of others for a mess of potage. 


Yall disgust me in this regard.
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Is Vlad out of control? Yes. Zelenskyy as well.

So how exactly is Zelensky out of control?
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

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You're  losing sight of the long history of aggression between the two nations.

The aggression has always been coming from Russia and Russia alone. Check your history on this.
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I have checked my history and posted several links...There has been aggression in the area involving other countries besides Russia.  (I am posting from my phone otherwise I'd  post info again).

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I have checked my history and posted several links...There has been aggression in the area involving other countries besides Russia.  (I am posting from my phone otherwise I'd  post info again).

Great. When did any other country initiate hostilities against the Russian Federation?

How many countries has the Russian Federation attacked?

Ukraine
Georgia
Moldova
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