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Offline DCPatriot

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Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« on: September 15, 2025, 07:33:29 pm »
Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
Robert D'Amico

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With more than 35 years as an FBI agent, a U.S. Marine, and now a security consultant, I can affirm that securing an outdoor event like the one where Kirk was killed is among the most difficult challenges in the field. A speaker positioned in low ground, surrounded by a large crowd and overlooked by two- to four-story buildings, creates vulnerabilities that no local police force can realistically control.

If Kirk had been my client, I would have wanted exactly that level of specialized team. But the cost is often far beyond what any private citizen or even many companies can afford. A more practical measure might have been a three-sided transparent ballistic panel capable of stopping a high-velocity rifle...

(Excerpt) Read more at https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-security-police-utah-valley-rcna231107

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Re: Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2025, 07:36:19 pm »
IMO, a simple 3-sided "Papal Shield", PLUS a few high quality low decibel drones to survey the high ground where there is line-of-sight to the tent.

How expensive are we talking here...??
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Re: Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2025, 07:37:07 pm »
The first thing that came to my mind was to put up a shield.

But that is a sad statement of our society.
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Re: Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2025, 07:39:24 pm »
These need to be done indoors with some control on what is brought into the event.
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Re: Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2025, 07:43:49 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on September 15, 2025, 07:36:19 pm
IMO, a simple 3-sided "Papal Shield", PLUS a few high quality low decibel drones to survey the high ground where there is line-of-sight to the tent.

How expensive are we talking here...??
I thought of the drones first, but the shield would be good. A bomb sniffing dog might be a plus.

Even if the drone can't apprehend the shooter, a good pilot should be able to drop in and mess up the shot. With more than one, (and a blood trail), the shooter wannabe should be easier to apprehend.
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Re: Charlie Kirk and the stubborn challenges with security measures
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2025, 10:52:01 pm »
I have a little bit of experience here, and the biggest real trouble is complacency. The second biggest is comms.

The first requires a blend of experienced locals that know the most likely places to look, and the points of ingress and egress to/from those places...
And folks that are not familiar with the area that will look at things with bright, new eyes. That's a hard mix to maintain, because complacency occurs in both those things over the course of time, and endless repetition across many shows/venues.

The second is very easily fixed with a comm channel that everyone stays off of, but that everyone is monitoring, that is there for direct comms, bottom to top, in case of a real threat. But that seldom occurs. comms are regimented through the various offices that control such a site. Even dispatch being able to relay takes way too much time, and creates confusion.
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