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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2025, 06:08:13 pm »
"The decision now rests with the Supreme Court"

I'll take a wild guess that the Court will back up Mr. Trump in a 5-to-4 vote.
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2025, 06:13:05 pm »
So instead of a $2 trillion deficit, we'll have a $3 trillion deficit?
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2025, 08:33:48 pm »
So instead of a $2 trillion deficit, we'll have a $3 trillion deficit?

Are you suggesting that people who paid more in taxes than they owed should not be paid?
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2025, 01:28:27 pm »
So instead of a $2 trillion deficit, we'll have a $3 trillion deficit?

Yup. 

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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2025, 04:09:25 pm »
Are you suggesting that people who paid more in taxes than they owed should not be paid?

I'm suggesting that we shouldn't be spending more than people have paid in taxes.  Right now, taxpayers are getting $2 trillion more in government than they paid for.  In other words, they UNDERPAID for what they demand.  So no.  No way in hell should we bump that amount up to $3 trillion.

If the people (through their legislators) demand $7 trillion in government, then they damn well should be willing to pay $7 trillion.  They should not be paying only $5 trillion, and then leaving a $2 trillion tab for future taxpayers to pay.  Agreed?  So the idea of reducing that $5 trillion to $4 trillion, leaving a $3 trillion tab, is completely inexcusable.
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2025, 04:25:05 pm »
I'm suggesting that we shouldn't be spending more than people have paid in taxes.  Right now, taxpayers are getting $2 trillion more in government than they paid for.  In other words, they UNDERPAID for what they demand.  So no.  No way in hell should we bump that amount up to $3 trillion.

If the people (through their legislators) demand $7 trillion in government, then they damn well should be willing to pay $7 trillion.  They should not be paying only $5 trillion, and then leaving a $2 trillion tab for future taxpayers to pay.  Agreed?  So the idea of reducing that $5 trillion to $4 trillion, leaving a $3 trillion tab, is completely inexcusable.
No disagreement we are overspending as a country.  It is why we are seriously in debt and getting worse.

My direction was toward people who overpaid for their tax liability and by law are due a refund.  Unfair if they do not get it, that's all.
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2025, 07:59:40 pm »
I'm suggesting that we shouldn't be spending more than people have paid in taxes.  Right now, taxpayers are getting $2 trillion more in government than they paid for.  In other words, they UNDERPAID for what they demand.  So no.  No way in hell should we bump that amount up to $3 trillion.

If the people (through their legislators) demand $7 trillion in government, then they damn well should be willing to pay $7 trillion.  They should not be paying only $5 trillion, and then leaving a $2 trillion tab for future taxpayers to pay.  Agreed?  So the idea of reducing that $5 trillion to $4 trillion, leaving a $3 trillion tab, is completely inexcusable.
I agree we are overspending. Just seems so much of that is on crap we neither need nor want.
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2025, 08:02:26 pm »
   Will Trump overcome the temptation to send everybody a 10K check?  Stay Tuned.......
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Re: Tariff refunds could hit the $1 trillion mark
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2025, 08:31:35 pm »
   Will Trump overcome the temptation to send everybody a 10K check?  Stay Tuned.......


He may not if his poll numbers continue to decline