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I'll add that Israel had already annexed Gaza following the 1967 war with Egypt.  Clearly, it was spoils taken from the aggressor by the war's victor, a result that has been repeated throughout history.

The main reason Israel annexed it was to control an area that remained a threat to the state of Israel, as confirmed over the years of its control by radicalism by its inhabitants.  Even Egypt would not accept any of the Palestinians as it feared the militancy of these people.

It became a fertile, self-providing entity by the Israelis who moved in and lived there.

Once Israel under pressure moved out of Gaza in 2005, all productivity ceased and it became another third world cesspool.  In fact, it was even worse than a cesspool as it was a state on welfare as the world community poured money into it as part of a 'compassion' for an 'oppressed people'.

The worst part was the people's support of a terror group that funneled this money and energy toward terrorism toward Israel, not to reestablish self-sufficiency of people.

Israel MUST destroy those who wish to destroy them, and that is everyone in Gaza.  There is not other answer as it is a matter of survival.
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As to the Israelis: --- Oct 7, 2023 came in the 75th year of a continuous conflict with the Palestinians that began with the first of two displacements in 1948 followed by a second in 1967. For those 75 years, Palestinians were controlled by Israel --- sometimes with a velvet glove, sometimes with an iron fist --- but always controlled.

The first of two displacements?  That's funny.  Here's what really happened:



Nov 29, 1947 - The UN Security Council issues a resolution partitioning the British colony into two sectors - Palestine and Israel - in the first step towards ending colonial rule and establishing two self-ruled States.

Nov 30, 1947 - The Palestinians hijack two buses on Israel's side of the partition, killing the occupants.

One day.  One friggin' day is all it took for the Palestinians to show their true nature.  At that moment, they had their own State.  And they tossed it all away because killing Jews was more important.

Over the next six months, the attacks continued.  Militants from neighboring countries began infiltrating Israel for their chance to kill Jews.  By now, it was open season.  And the Brits weren't doing jack to stop it.  The Palestinians and their allies had encircled Jerusalem and were starving out the Jewish inhabitants.

May 14, 1948 - Israel declares itself an independent State, free from British rule.  Palestine makes no such declaration for itself.

May 15, 1948 - British rule ends.

May 16, 1948 - Israel is invaded by troops from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, and volunteers from Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen.

June 11, 1948 - A UN-sponsored truce takes effect, bringing an end to the fighting.  The Arabs reinforce their armies with troops from Sudan, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia.

July 7, 1948 - The Egyptians break the truce by attacking Negba.

Over the next week and a half, the Arabs get their asses handed to them by the Israeli forces fighting on their own turf.

July 18, 1948 - The Arabs were granted another truce from the UN.

Over the next three months, Egypt continued to shell Israeli settlements in the Negev.  (Sound familiar)

Oct 14, 1948 - The cease fire officially ends with an Egyptian attack against an Israeli supply convoy.

Oct 15, 1948 - Israel launches a counter attack, pushing the Egyptian army out of the Negev.

Oct 22, 1948 - The UN issues a third cease fire, averting (for now) a total collapse of the Egyptian forces. 

On the very day the cease fire took effect, the Arab Liberation Army launched an attack against the hilltop overlooking Manara.  They laid siege to the settlement, taking sniper shots at civilans on the streets.

Oct 24, 1948 - After two days of inaction from the UN, Israel launches a counter-attack, pushing the Arab Liberation Army into Lebanon.

Dec 22, 1948 - Israel launches an offensive against the remaining Egyptian forces, pushing into Sinai, and encircling their army in Gaza.  Israel withdrew from Sinai after receiving threats from the British.

Jan 6, 1949 -  Egypt requests an armistice with Israel.  Very important:  They didn't go snivelling back to the UN like they did the last two times.  They recognized the Israeli's right to negotiate for themselves as an independent State.  The next day, a direct truce between the States of Israel and Egypt was achieved.

Mar 5, 1949 -  Israel launches an offensive against Jordanian troops in the southern Negev.  Within five days, it was liberated.


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Oh, and what about that free Palestinian State?  You know, the one they forfeited in 1947 by going to war against Israel?  So it is now 1949.  The war is over.  Israel has withdrawn its troops.  Yet there is not Palestinian State.  Gaza is occupied by Egypt.  And the West Bank is occupied by Jordan.  Did the Palestinians go after them?  Why no, they chose to start a propaganda war instead while their people lived in the squalor of camps for the next seven decades.

So let's not lose site of how this really started.  Palestine could have been its own peaceful independent State in 1947.  But they chose war.
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jafo2010...
Hamas declared war every bit as much as the Japanese did on December 7th, 1941.

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I don't understand how you can say this.  Starting with the Japanese: -- We were not fighting with them prior to Dec 7, 1941.  That date lives in infamy because it truly was a sneak attack, and a damn powerful sucker punch, that began a four year war.

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You simply do not know history.  We had the American Volunteer Group, aviators recruited by Claire Chennault in the fall of 1941 in China flying P40 aircraft and were in place ready to fight the Japanese before December 7th, and began operations shortly after December 7th.

And anyone in the know, knew war was immenent with Japan before Pearl Harbor.......

Japan is irrelevant to my point, which is:  Saying Hamas declared war on Oct 7 erases 75+ years of conflict and war between the Palestinians and the Israelis.  You click your fingers and "poof!" eliminate decades of actual history and insinuate the Gazan Palestinians woke up one beautiful Autumn morning and decided out-of-the-blue to go on a brutal rampage in Israel.  I understand it's politically beneficial for you to do this, it's a smart position to take.  But, in reality it further inflames the situation and makes settling this conflict more elusive.

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Israel's objective is to win the war.  What does that mean exactly?

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It's becoming more and more evident that for the Netanyahu government, victory is annexing the territory in question without a Palestinian on it.  Oh, and to accomplish this without receiving an invitation to appear before a judge in the Hague.

jafo2010... I doubt that is the motivation.

It's the motivation and reason Israel has not annexed Gaza and the West Bank in 58 years.  We know this because prior to the mounting international pushback over the past 10 years against potential ethnic cleansing and/or apartheid, Likud would openly discuss this --- it was a "vote for us" talking point.  Heck, Naftali Bennett would show how simple math made annexation and a guaranteed Jewish majority impossible.

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jafo2010...  What do you expect Israel to do?  Stop and wait for the next genocidal attack by Hamas?  Really, what do you see?

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I look at the Israel/Palestine mess and see it escalating rapidly and exponentially ---  and no evidence either side wants the mess cleaned up.  We've wasted enough time, energy, money and prestige being in the middle of this clusterbleep.  Let the neighborhood handle it from here.

I remain very pro-America and prefer to guard her assets, including our blood, treasure, reputation and inheritance rather than squander them.  I don't hear how our involvement so deeply in the Middle East benefits any asset.  If you know one, please, share it.

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You ask "now what happens"?  Israel needs to kill many more Palestinians in Gaza until they surrender.  PERIOD!  And the idiots of the world need to stay the hell out of their way.

RIV...
I think your answer sets up another generation of whack-a-mole.

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"  began the process of dehumanizing the Palestinians.  Herding them up and down the Gaza Strip by order of the IDF intensified the process; killing them at will will complete it.   But, the battle will remain engaged --- memories will survive and the Palestinian attempts at retribution will be frequent and intense.  ----

jafo2010...Love their children?  Guess what?  That will never happen.  /i]

I have no response to this.

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My favorite pro tip:   A problem cannot be solved using the same thinking that created it.

jafo2010...yes, and when dealing with a conflict where one side is completely insane, there is only one solution.  KILL THEM.  Sounds harsh, but there is no dealing with rabid animals but to kill them.

You have chosen eternal war.  I cannot hope your choice is successful;  but I can and do thank you for taking the time to discuss it.


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The first of two displacements?  That's funny.  Here's what really happened:



Nov 29, 1947 - The UN Security Council issues a resolution partitioning the British colony into two sectors - Palestine and Israel - in the first step towards ending colonial rule and establishing two self-ruled States.

Nov 30, 1947 - The Palestinians hijack two buses on Israel's side of the partition, killing the occupants.

One day.  One friggin' day is all it took for the Palestinians to show their true nature.  At that moment, they had their own State.  And they tossed it all away because killing Jews was more important.

Over the next six months, the attacks continued.  Militants from neighboring countries began infiltrating Israel for their chance to kill Jews.  By now, it was open season.  And the Brits weren't doing jack to stop it.  The Palestinians and their allies had encircled Jerusalem and were starving out the Jewish inhabitants.

May 14, 1948 - Israel declares itself an independent State, free from British rule.  Palestine makes no such declaration for itself.

May 15, 1948 - British rule ends.

May 16, 1948 - Israel is invaded by troops from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, and volunteers from Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen.

June 11, 1948 - A UN-sponsored truce takes effect, bringing an end to the fighting.  The Arabs reinforce their armies with troops from Sudan, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia.

July 7, 1948 - The Egyptians break the truce by attacking Negba.

Over the next week and a half, the Arabs get their asses handed to them by the Israeli forces fighting on their own turf.

July 18, 1948 - The Arabs were granted another truce from the UN.

Over the next three months, Egypt continued to shell Israeli settlements in the Negev.  (Sound familiar)

Oct 14, 1948 - The cease fire officially ends with an Egyptian attack against an Israeli supply convoy.

Oct 15, 1948 - Israel launches a counter attack, pushing the Egyptian army out of the Negev.

Oct 22, 1948 - The UN issues a third cease fire, averting (for now) a total collapse of the Egyptian forces. 

On the very day the cease fire took effect, the Arab Liberation Army launched an attack against the hilltop overlooking Manara.  They laid siege to the settlement, taking sniper shots at civilans on the streets.

Oct 24, 1948 - After two days of inaction from the UN, Israel launches a counter-attack, pushing the Arab Liberation Army into Lebanon.

Dec 22, 1948 - Israel launches an offensive against the remaining Egyptian forces, pushing into Sinai, and encircling their army in Gaza.  Israel withdrew from Sinai after receiving threats from the British.

Jan 6, 1949 -  Egypt requests an armistice with Israel.  Very important:  They didn't go snivelling back to the UN like they did the last two times.  They recognized the Israeli's right to negotiate for themselves as an independent State.  The next day, a direct truce between the States of Israel and Egypt was achieved.

Mar 5, 1949 -  Israel launches an offensive against Jordanian troops in the southern Negev.  Within five days, it was liberated.


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Oh, and what about that free Palestinian State?  You know, the one they forfeited in 1947 by going to war against Israel?  So it is now 1949.  The war is over.  Israel has withdrawn its troops.  Yet there is not Palestinian State.  Gaza is occupied by Egypt.  And the West Bank is occupied by Jordan.  Did the Palestinians go after them?  Why no, they chose to start a propaganda war instead while their people lived in the squalor of camps for the next seven decades.

So let's not lose site of how this really started.  Palestine could have been its own peaceful independent State in 1947.  But they chose war.

There you go with those pesky facts again...
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You have chosen eternal war

WRONG, the "Palestinians" have stupidly chosen that

Even more stupidly, they choose to go to war against a modern country that is vastly more powerful and resourceful than them

That's why they keep suffering ...

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WRONG, the "Palestinians" have stupidly chosen that

Even more stupidly, they choose to go to war against a modern country that is vastly more powerful and resourceful than them

That's why they keep suffering ...

"authors of their own misfortune"

I'll never forget in 2000 I think it was...at Camp David...Ahud Barak was willing to give Arafat and the PLO everything they wanted including pre 1967 borders and Arafat walked away from the deal.

The "Palestinians" and their overlords...whether it be the Arab League in 1948 or the Iranians now...have never been interested in peace with Israel.

All they've ever wanted is the destruction of Israel.
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Even more stupidly, they choose to go to war against a modern country that is vastly more powerful and resourceful than them

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There you go with those pesky facts again...

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I'll add that Israel had already annexed Gaza following the 1967 war with Egypt.

Nope.  Israel has not legally incorporated the Gaza Strip into its territory, as it has with other areas captured in 1967 like East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights.  Israel continues to control Gaza's borders, airspace, territorial waters, trade, utilities, and work permits making Gaza an occupied territory.

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The worst part was the people's support of a terror group that funneled this money and energy toward terrorism toward Israel, not to reestablish self-sufficiency of people.

Nope.  The election in 2006 was a split decision ending with a coalition government between Hamas and Fatah formed.  Hamas didn't like it and turned to violence, killing or expelling Fatah and seized control in 2007.  There has not been an election since 2006.

Just thought you should know.   :shrug:






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The first of two displacements?  That's funny.  Here's what really happened:

I didn't see this on your extensive list:

May 1948

The Nakba (Arabic for "catastrophe") refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, which led to the destruction of Palestinian society and the loss of their homeland with the establishment of the State of Israel.

The event involved direct expulsions of Palestinians by Israeli forces, the destruction of their villages,  and mass flight "for safety" with a promised right to return.  The result of the war was the permanent displacement and statelessness of more than half of the Palestinian population.

In December 1948, the UN General Assembly called for refugee return, property restitution and compensation (resolution 194 (II).  This has been ignored to this day and remains a central grievance in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

But, @Hoodat your plan to ki|| every Palestinian man, woman and child could settle it.  Sorry, not sorry that I simply cannot support it -- not as a Christian or as an American.

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I didn't see this on your extensive list:

May 1948

The Nakba (Arabic for "catastrophe") .  .  .

Ah, yes.  May 1948.  That would be six months AFTER Palestine chose to go to war with Israel.  Again, they could have had a country.  But they decided that killing Jews was more important.
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I'll never forget in 2000 I think it was...at Camp David...Ahud Barak was willing to give Arafat and the PLO everything they wanted including pre 1967 borders and Arafat walked away from the deal.

Well technically, the "pre 1967 borders" would make the West Bank part of Jordan and Gaza a colony of Egypt.
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Well technically, the "pre 1967 borders" would make the West Bank part of Jordan and Gaza a colony of Egypt.

How 'pre' pre-1967?

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Well technically, the "pre 1967 borders" would make the West Bank part of Jordan and Gaza a colony of Egypt.

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The "Palestinians" and their overlords...whether it be the Arab League in 1948 or the Iranians now...have never been interested in peace with Israel.

Sec of State Baker to Congress, 1990:

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Nothing that James Baker said changes the fact that the Palestinians reject peace.  Again and again.
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Ah, yes.  May 1948.  That would be six months AFTER Palestine chose to go to war with Israel.  Again, they could have had a country.  But they decided that killing Jews was more important.

Still trying hard to justify your goal to ki|| every Palestinian man, woman and child.

Work harder   :laugh:

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Still trying hard to justify your goal to ki|| every Palestinian man, woman and child.

Not my goal.  Never was.  Nothing I have ever posted even remotely suggests that.  You are a liar.
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Nothing that James Baker said changes the fact that the Palestinians reject peace.  Again and again.

But, it does introduce a nugget of truth so often ignored:   So do the Israelis. ---     (Fair and balanced, and all that.  happy77 )

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Not my goal.  Never was.  Nothing I have ever posted even remotely suggests that.  You are a liar.

I'm not a liar.  *Everything* you do supports the pursuit and justification of your strategy for Israel:  Dehumanize and ki|| the Palestinians. It's the only happy ending you support.



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You're the liar.  *Everything* you do supports the pursuit and justification of your strategy for Israel:  Dehumanize and ki|| the Palestinians. It's the only happy ending you support.

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Wow. The hate is strong with that one today.

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I'm not a liar.  *Everything* you do supports the pursuit and justification of your strategy for Israel:  Dehumanize and ki|| the Palestinians. It's the only happy ending you support.

I do not support the dehumanization and killing of Palestinians.  And there is nothing I have posted that even remotely suggests otherwise.  Again, you are a liar.

The happy ending I support is one where the Palestinians stop killing Jews and instead begin building a nation.  But then you knew that already.  Yet you still lie.  It's who you are.  A liar.
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The happy ending I support is one where the Palestinians stop killing Jews and instead begin building a nation.  But then you knew that already.  Yet you still lie.  It's who you are.  A liar.

When you also add that the Israelis stop killing Palestinians and after 58 years of occupation help them build a recognized nation state to your happy ending, I'll revise my assessment of your goals.

Until then, my statement holds:  I am not the liar.

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Why do you lie?

It’s what most modern day haters do. 

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When you also add that the Israelis stop killing Palestinians and after 58 years of occupation help them build a recognized nation state to your happy ending, I'll revise my assessment of your goals.

By their actions, it is clear the Palestinians do not want to build a nation state.  There is 75 years of history affirming this.  And there is nothing that Israel can do to change that.  They lived under Jordanian rule and Egyptian occupation for 20 years, yet never once said they lift a finger toward self rule.  Their only objective has been to kill Jews.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are still lying.


Until then, my statement holds:  I am not the liar.

It is your own statements that make you a liar, not mine.  Of course you could always go back through my posts and find where I support the dehumanization and killing of Palestinians.  But you won't make the effort because deep down, you know I never did it.  Yet you continue to double down on the lie.  It's what liars do.

Of course you could come clean and retract your false accusation against me.  But you won't.  Because doing so is something that liars do not do.
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By their actions, it is clear the Palestinians do not want to build a nation state.  There is 75 years of history affirming this.  And there is nothing that Israel can do to change that.  They lived under Jordanian rule and Egyptian occupation for 20 years, yet never once said they lift a finger toward self rule.  Their only objective has been to kill Jews.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are still lying.


It is your own statements that make you a liar, not mine.  Of course you could always go back through my posts and find where I support the dehumanization and killing of Palestinians.  But you won't make the effort because deep down, you know I never did it.  Yet you continue to double down on the lie.  It's what liars do.

Of course you could come clean and retract your false accusation against me.  But you won't.  Because doing so is something that liars do not do.

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The only correct response at this point.

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Their only objective has been to kill Jews

They're Muslims. It's what they do.


Things can change .... and were ----

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The Abraham Accords are a series of U.S.-brokered agreements that established or normalized diplomatic relations between Israel and several Arab and Muslim-majority states, beginning in 2020. The accords initiated a new era of cooperation in the Middle East focused on shared economic and security interests.

Signatory nations
The initial peace declarations were signed at the White House on September 15, 2020, by Israel, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain. Other countries have since joined the normalization process.

Future outlook

Palestinian issue: Any significant expansion, particularly with Saudi Arabia, would depend on tangible progress toward resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.


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Apr 15, 2024

Saudi Arabia has publicly acknowledged its involvement in aiding the newly formed regional military coalition in defending Israel against an Iranian attack.

The statement referenced a report by KAN News detailing Saudi Arabia's participation in the joint military defensive operation, which successfully thwarted an Iranian assault on Israel.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/artc-saudi-arabia-publicly-acknowledges-role-in-defending-israel-against-iranian-attack

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Are Jordan and Saudi Arabia defending Israel?
Kersten Knipp
06/21/2025

Jordan shot down Iranian missiles and drones crossing overhead and Saudi Arabia likely allowed Israel to use its airspace to do so. That's despite both expressing opposition to Israel's attacks on Iran in public.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-jordan-israel-iran-war-united-states/a-72977996

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Qatar

The end of unofficial diplomacy (September 2025)

Israeli strike: In September 2025, Israel launched an airstrike in Doha, Qatar, reportedly targeting senior Hamas leaders who were meeting to discuss a U.S.-backed ceasefire proposal. While the targeted Hamas negotiators reportedly survived, a Qatari security officer was killed.

Immediate condemnation: Qatar strongly condemned the strike, calling it an act of "state terrorism" and a violation of its sovereignty. This led to widespread international condemnation of Israel.

Escalating tensions: After the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu threatened further strikes if Qatar continued to harbor Hamas leaders. In response, Qatar's prime minister promised a "collective" regional response in coordination with other Gulf states.

Strained Gulf relations: The attack has shattered trust in regional diplomacy and strained Israel's ties with other Gulf states. The UAE, a country that normalized relations with Israel under the Abraham Accords, summoned the Israeli deputy ambassador to protest the attack.

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The world would be a better place if there where no Muslims.  When we look back in history, Israel will be vindicated for what it is doing. 
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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Muslims are like cockroaches.  Once they have infested a home you need to take action to eradicate them.  The best course of action is to keep them in their own areas and if they stage an incursion is to kill them. 
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.