BREAKING...Israeli strike targets Hamas leadership as explosions reported in Qatar

[Right_in_Virginia]

You should relieve yourself from the Jew hate that has made you a hateful and pro Hamas dingbat.

You should educate yourself.  You're destroying Israel faster than Netanyahu.

[berdie]

Their survival as a country and a people will supersede everything all the time.

I always knew Israel was up against it but I didn't realize just how much the proverbial wolf is at their doorstep until I went to Israel in 2014.  That gave me a really good sense as to how close their enemies are all the time.

They are fighting to survive.

I have seen past criticism of how the US has fought wars since WWII. I have to agree, somewhat. We no longer fight to win.

It appears to me that Israel is fighting to win. Their stated goal is to destroy Hamas. They have given ample warning for civilians to get out of the way and provided humanitarian aid to those that have. They have gone after Hamas leaders and been pretty successful.

It really doesn't matter what Israel does. The court of public opinion will convict them. I stand beside them and wish then total success. I think people forget that Hamas is an arm of Iran.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Yes!  Yes, Mr. President!  I understand clearly!  I also understand that it will be 2 YEARS since their attack on Israeli civilians, and they STILL hold hostages...
'What would Michael Corleone do differently than I did, Mr. President??"

False alarm @DCPatriot   Netanyahu had neither the courage or respect to call the President and personally give him the heads-up.  Our military discovered and alerted the POTUS to Israel's latest bucket of international crap.  I tried to attach honor to Benjamin Netanyahu --- even hypothetically --- and it still slid right off him. 

[Wingnut]

You should educate yourself.  You're destroying Israel faster than Netanyahu.

Nah you are destroying what was left of your credibility here.  Our resident Jew hater.  Own it.  You wear it well. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nah you are destroying what was left of your credibility here.  Our resident Jew hater.

Yet you follow me like a lonely puppy  --- barking, jumping, snapping, all for my attention. Pretty darn flattering, actually. 

[Wingnut]

Yet you follow me like a lonely puppy  --- barking, jumping, snapping, all for my attention. Pretty darn flattering, actually. 

Most of us follow you just to mock and laugh at you. You are a sad sad human being.  Nancy probably only keeps you around because she pity's you.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1965564062005428708

[DCPatriot]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1965564062005428708

Recall that soon after Gaddafi's son was killed when Pres. Reagan sent a guided missile down his chimney one night.

It changed the dynamic between the countries for decades...until Barack and Hillary killed him like a rabid dog.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Most of us follow you just to mock and laugh at you. You are a sad sad human being.  Nancy probably only keeps you around because she pity's you.

Okay.  But, please, promise me no one in your posse gets too riled up ..... 

[Hoodat]

Israeli strike targets Hamas leadership as explosions reported in Qatar

About time.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Recall that soon after Gaddafi's son was killed when Pres. Reagan sent a guided missile down his chimney one night.

It changed the dynamic between the countries for decades...until Barack and Hillary killed him like a rabid dog.

Who's Trump in your analogy?

[Cyber Liberty]

Okay.  But, please, promise me no one in your posse gets too riled up ..... 

This is TBR, not X.  Enough.

[Wingnut]

This is TBR, not X.  Enough.

Haters got to hate. 

[DCPatriot]

Who's Trump in your analogy?

Nobody...

Was merely hoping that the Hamas Leader/Financier whose son was killed in the explosion may have a similar change of heart/conscience.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nobody...

Was merely hoping that the Hamas Leader/Financier whose son was killed in the explosion may have a similar change of heart/conscience.

Thanks ... I missed the plot. 

[DCPatriot]

Thanks ... I missed the plot. 

    

[Smokin Joe]

It is likely those hostages had already 'paid the price'.

[Hoodat]

Who's Trump in your analogy?

Jimmy Carter

[Right_in_Virginia]

More:  .  https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/09/trump-white-house-blasts-unilateral-israeli-strike-on-qatar-as-strain-grows-with-netanyahu/

[DCPatriot]

Bibi:

"With the utmost respect, Mr. President...Israel must exist in the "REAL" world.

You have proven to be a lasting friend to Israel and have done Yeoman's work all the while taking on your own government and Deep State.

But the truth here is that in 13 months, you may become a political eunuch, losing control of your Congress.

In the meantime, I got Iran getting ready to announce they have become a nuclear power.

I'm not going to become suicidal dealing with Tehran.  Just know that they will NEVER be allowed to exist with the capacity to destroy Israel."

[Cyber Liberty]

Bibi has his problems, we have ours.   

[txradioguy]

Most of us follow you just to mock and laugh at you. You are a sad sad human being.  Nancy probably only keeps you around because she pity's you.

I blocked RiV back during Trump's first run for the White House.

Whether it's Trump 2015 or Jew hating in 2025...she's a cultist...a sheep.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Bibi:

"With the utmost respect, Mr. President...Israel must exist in the "REAL" world.

You have proven to be a lasting friend to Israel and have done Yeoman's work all the while taking on your own government and Deep State.

But the truth here is that in 13 months, you may become a political eunuch, losing control of your Congress.

In the meantime, I got Iran getting ready to announce they have become a nuclear power.

I'm not going to become suicidal dealing with Tehran.  Just know that they will NEVER be allowed to exist with the capacity to destroy Israel."

This creative fantasy    conversation is better @DCPatriot   --- except for the nuclear Iran reference. Trump took care of that.   

The photo below was taken after Netanyahu presented his nomination of Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize --- and his slobbering about peace in the Middle East that followed. Trump was buying none of it. 

I simply love the look on Trump's face --- (and on the War Secretary, too).    It's very reassuring. 

[txradioguy]

I stand beside them and wish then total success. I think people forget that Hamas is an arm of Iran.

As do I

[txradioguy]

Bibi:

"With the utmost respect, Mr. President...Israel must exist in the "REAL" world.

You have proven to be a lasting friend to Israel and have done Yeoman's work all the while taking on your own government and Deep State.

But the truth here is that in 13 months, you may become a political eunuch, losing control of your Congress.

In the meantime, I got Iran getting ready to announce they have become a nuclear power.

I'm not going to become suicidal dealing with Tehran.  Just know that they will NEVER be allowed to exist with the capacity to destroy Israel."

He's not wrong.

[mystery-ak]

 Qatar calls for retaliation against Israel for strike in Doha
by Sarah Fortinsky - 09/09/25 9:18 PM ET

Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani vowed on Tuesday to retaliate against Israel for its strike against Hamas’s political leadership based in Doha.

“The State of Qatar is committed to act in a decisive way with anything that would target its territories and will reserve the right to retaliate and will take all the needed measures to retaliate,” al-Thani said at a news conference on Tuesday, through a translator.

The Qatari prime minister said his minister of State will convene a meeting on Wednesday to “review all the policies and directives in order to deter such actions and measures in the future so that it cannot happen again.”

Al-Thani called the strike on Doha “state terrorism” by Israel and took aim at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who al-Thani said threatened regional security and violated the sovereignty of nearby nations.

“I think that we have reached a decisive moment. There should be retaliation from the whole region in the face of those barbaric actions that only reflects one thing: It reflects the barbarism of this person that is leading the region, unfortunately, to a point where we cannot address any situation and we cannot repair anything, and we cannot work within the frameworks of international laws. He just violates all those international laws,” al-Thani said through the translator, referring to Netanyahu.

Israel escalated its war against Hamas on Tuesday by launching an assassination strike on Hamas’s political leadership based in Qatar. The move appeared to end any efforts to release hostages through negotiation, which have been taking place in Qatar and with the help of its leaders.

Even as Qatar vowed to retaliate, the country maintained that it would not abandon its role as a mediator in many regional negotiations.

more
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5495202-qatar-calls-for-retaliation-against-israel-for-strike-in-doha/

[verga]

txradio signals us with:
"It's a really strange relationship we have with Qatar..."

NO muslim nation is our friend.
NO muslim nation HAS EVER BEEN our friend.
NO muslim nation will ever BE our friend.

They are muslim, and all that matters there is mohammedism.
That, in and of itself, makes us (to them) the enemy.

QFT say it loudly and often

[Right_in_Virginia]

[Wingnut]

Only a Jew hater would find this a bad thing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Qatar seeks ‘collective response’ to deter Israel from ‘bullying’, al-Thani calls Netanyahu ‘rogue player’
Sep 10, 2025

Qatar's Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim al-Thani has accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of destroying any remaining chances of securing the release of hostages in Gaza, following an Israeli airstrike that killed Hamas negotiators in Doha.

In a Wednesday interview with CNN, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim al-Thani condemned Tuesday’s strike, which killed six Hamas members involved in ceasefire talks, as an act of “state terror.”

The negotiations had been mediated by the US and Gulf nations. “He needs to be brought to justice,” al-Thani said, referring to Benjamin Netanyahu.

“There will be a regional response,” Qatar’s Prime Minister told CNN on Wednesday, noting that discussions were underway with other regional partners. “The entire Gulf region is at risk,” he warned.

Sheikh Mohammed emphasised the need for a strong and meaningful reaction to deter Israel from what he described as continued “bullying,” and accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of dragging the region into “chaos.”

In a statement, Qatar's foreign ministry condemned what it described as Netanyahu's "explicit threats of future violations of state sovereignty".

"Netanyahu is fully aware that the hosting of the Hamas office took place within the framework of Qatar's mediation efforts requested by the United States and Israel," the ministry added.

"The negotiations were always held in an official and transparent manner, with international support and in the presence of U.S. and Israeli delegations. Netanyahu's insinuation that Qatar secretly harbored the Hamas delegation is a desperate attempt to justify a crime condemned by the entire world."


https://www.livemint.com/news/world/qatar-seeks-collective-response-to-deter-israel-from-bullying-al-thani-calls-netanyahu-rogue-player-11757554648546.html

[Wingnut]

Do you comment or just post anti Jew propaganda news? 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Netanyahu tells Qatar to expel Hamas chiefs or bring them to justice: ‘If you don’t, we will’
Times of Israel, Sep 10, 2025

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pushed back on Wednesday against mounting international criticism over Israel’s strike against Hamas leaders in Qatar the previous day, and compared the operation to US actions in the wake of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, despite the strike ostensibly failing to kill any of its intended targets.

"What did America do in the wake of September 11?” Netanyahu asked. “It promised to hunt down the terrorists who committed this heinous crime, wherever they may be. And it also passed a resolution in the Security Council of the UN, two weeks later, that said that governments cannot give harbor to terrorists.”

Israel followed that approach, said Netanyahu, accusing Qatar of harboring terrorists, financing Hamas and giving its leaders mansions.

Qatar later hit back at Netanyahu, denouncing his remarks as “reckless” and describing them as “explicit threats of future violations of state sovereignty”.

“Netanyahu is fully aware that the hosting of the Hamas office took place within the framework of Qatar’s mediation efforts requested by the United States and Israel,” the Qatari foreign ministry said in a statement.

"The negotiations were always held in an official and transparent manner, with international support and in the presence of US and Israeli delegations. Netanyahu’s insinuation that Qatar secretly harbored the Hamas delegation is a desperate attempt to justify a crime condemned by the entire world.”


 https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-tells-qatar-to-expel-hamas-chiefs-or-bring-them-to-justice-if-you-dont-we-will/

[Hoodat]

Netanyahu tells Qatar to expel Hamas chiefs or bring them to justice: ‘If you don’t, we will’

[Smokin Joe]

False alarm @DCPatriot   Netanyahu had neither the courage or respect to call the President and personally give him the heads-up.  Our military discovered and alerted the POTUS to Israel's latest bucket of international crap.  I tried to attach honor to Benjamin Netanyahu --- even hypothetically --- and it still slid right off him. 

Exactly who, in D.C. would you tell, without blowing the operation wide open?

How many does it take to keep a secret?

One.

The fewer who know, the longer the secret will last.

[jafo2010]

RIV...

Hamas was in Qatar to discuss and most likely accept the agreement WE created -

So tell me, are you just naive or dumb as a box of rocks?  Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

Simply stated, the only good Palestinian is one dead for six months or more.  Israel was ruthlessly attacked, their people brutally murdered.  They have every right to  kill every last Palestinian in Gaza.  Every last one of them.  That is the definition of war, something most Americans have forgotten since WWII.  Kill your enemy.

When that enemy has in their constitution to kill every Jew and destroy Israel, Israel has the right to strike and kill them all in my view.  Until the people in Gaza surrender, giving up their weapons, they are a very active enemy.  And I say all day long, Israel has every right to kill them, regardless what country they are in.

[Cyber Liberty]

So tell me, are you just naive or dumb as a box of rocks?  Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

Simply stated, the only good Palestinian is one dead for six months or more.  Israel was ruthlessly attacked, their people brutally murdered.  They have every right to  kill every last Palestinian in Gaza.  Every last one of them.  That is the definition of war, something most Americans have forgotten since WWII.  Kill your enemy.

When that enemy has in their constitution to kill every Jew and destroy Israel, Israel has the right to strike and kill them all in my view.  Until the people in Gaza surrender, giving up their weapons, they are a very active enemy.  And I say all day long, Israel has every right to kill them, regardless what country they are in.

 

[jafo2010]

IsailedawayfromFR...

Let's say it out loud:  The disease is Islam. For 1400 years.

How do you treat that sickness?

Sadly, President Obama condemned the Crusades, which was nothing more than a defensive move to push the murderous genocidal mussies back to where they belong, after they murdered tens if not hundreds of thousands in the lands around the Mediterranean.  Mohammed was a genocidal maniac, who is worshiped as a prophet today.  That is the UGLY TRUTH.

How you treat the sickness?  Simple solution, the same action as was executed by the Crusades.  You kill them in large enough numbers that Pandora's Box is sealed for a century or two.  1.6 billion mussies in the world, and we can't get enough of them into the USA, we are excluding good people from sane, civil countries to flood our nation with the crazy mussies from Iran, often at the top of the list for recipients for the Diversified Visa Program, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia and other dangerous islamic states.  Roughly 250,000 mussies every year, their women having on average nine births.  Do the math!!!!!

The day of reckoning approaches with each passing day of the western world addressing the problem of islam in their own countries.  Europe will be faced with taking violent action sooner than us, but that day of reckoning is coming as surely as I know the sun will rise each day.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Exactly who, in D.C. would you tell, without blowing the operation wide open?

Interesting question @Smokin Joe   The people in Doha are gathering at the request of the hosts, Qatar, and the United States on behalf of Israel to discuss a proposal for release of hostages and the start of a ceasefire ---- the same proposal already approved by Israel. The cherry on the parfait being American diplomats would also be in harm's way.

I think under the circumstances the call should be between the two leaders --- Trump and Bibi.

So, would I, in Bibi's shoes, call Trump personally and give him a heads-up that I'm about to humiliate and diminish him by sending 10 fighter jets to illicitly cross Qatar's borders and kill the people he worked so hard to get to that table?

No, I would not.  I doubt I'd even consider picking up the phone.  I'd be too afraid I'd add:  I'm really sorry, buddy.  This time it looked like the proposal would pass and I couldn't find another way to stop it with so little time.   But, please, don't be a stranger --- we're running a little short on missles.

[Smokin Joe]

If Bibi's intel was good enough to tell him where/when to bomb, it was good enough to wait until a place and time when Americans were out of the way.

I admit, this undermines any plausible peace process, and is a bit of a slap to US efforts in the region--to maintain credibility in any future negotiations we MUST be offended--but we are not the ones facing an existential threat from that little corner of Islam, even though it is being used as a rallying point for the forces which inevitably will threaten the US, in Dearbornistan, in NYC (coming up) and elsewhere.

We need to awaken to the fundamental incompatibility between Islam and our Constitutional Republic.  One or the other will prevail on these shores, but not both.

[Right_in_Virginia]

So tell me, are you just naive or dumb as a box of rocks? 

I could be wrong,  but i don't think I'm either @jafo2010

Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

I've considered this, and my answer is "of course". 

Then I look at the other side and ask:  has Israel not budged because freeing the final hostages (dead and alive) would remove the leverage they have for the time to turn rubble to dust and make moving the Palestinians off the strip more palatable to the civilized world?  My answer to this is also: "of course".

Now what happens?

[Canuck Conservative]

Now what happens?

Gaza gets destroyed, and the "Palestinians" there get moved to Africa

win-win

(and Hamas is entirely to blame)

[Bigun]

So tell me, are you just naive or dumb as a box of rocks?  Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

Simply stated, the only good Palestinian is one dead for six months or more.  Israel was ruthlessly attacked, their people brutally murdered.  They have every right to  kill every last Palestinian in Gaza.  Every last one of them.  That is the definition of war, something most Americans have forgotten since WWII.  Kill your enemy.

When that enemy has in their constitution to kill every Jew and destroy Israel, Israel has the right to strike and kill them all in my view.  Until the people in Gaza surrender, giving up their weapons, they are a very active enemy.  And I say all day long, Israel has every right to kill them, regardless what country they are in.

[mystery-ak]

Senior Hamas officials likely survived Israeli strikes on Doha, Israeli sources say

Five Hamas members and a Qatari official were killed in the strikes, Hamas said.
ByNadine El-Bawab and Jordana Miller
September 10, 2025, 3:51 PM

Israel has informed the U.S. that the chances of success of its strikes Tuesday on a Hamas residence in Doha, Qatar, have "decreased significantly," two Israeli sources familiar with the matter told ABC News -- likely confirming Hamas' assertion that the strikes failed to kill top Hamas officials.

Five Hamas members and a Qatari official were killed in the strike. Hamas' senior leaders survived the strike, Hamas said Tuesday.

"There was a meeting of the negotiating team and some Hamas leaders to discuss the ideas sent by the United States and the paper sent by President Trump," Hamas political bureau official Suhail al-Hindi told Al Jazeera of when the strike took place.

Among those killed were the son of a senior Hamas leader, Dr. Khalil Al-Hayya -- the head of the Hamas movement in Gaza and the head of Hamas' negotiating team for a ceasefire with Israel -- and an aide. Al-Hayya himself survived, according to Hamas.

more
https://abcnews.go.com/International/senior-hamas-officials-survived-israeli-strikes-doha/story?id=125438560

[txradioguy]

So tell me, are you just naive or dumb as a box of rocks?  Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

Simply stated, the only good Palestinian is one dead for six months or more.  Israel was ruthlessly attacked, their people brutally murdered.  They have every right to  kill every last Palestinian in Gaza.  Every last one of them.  That is the definition of war, something most Americans have forgotten since WWII.  Kill your enemy.

When that enemy has in their constitution to kill every Jew and destroy Israel, Israel has the right to strike and kill them all in my view.  Until the people in Gaza surrender, giving up their weapons, they are a very active enemy.  And I say all day long, Israel has every right to kill them, regardless what country they are in.

QFT

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Sadly, President Obama condemned the Crusades, which was nothing more than a defensive move to push the murderous genocidal mussies back to where they belong, after they murdered tens if not hundreds of thousands in the lands around the Mediterranean.  Mohammed was a genocidal maniac, who is worshiped as a prophet today.  That is the UGLY TRUTH.

How you treat the sickness?  Simple solution, the same action as was executed by the Crusades.  You kill them in large enough numbers that Pandora's Box is sealed for a century or two.  1.6 billion mussies in the world, and we can't get enough of them into the USA, we are excluding good people from sane, civil countries to flood our nation with the crazy mussies from Iran, often at the top of the list for recipients for the Diversified Visa Program, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia and other dangerous islamic states.  Roughly 250,000 mussies every year, their women having on average nine births.  Do the math!!!!!

The day of reckoning approaches with each passing day of the western world addressing the problem of islam in their own countries.  Europe will be faced with taking violent action sooner than us, but that day of reckoning is coming as surely as I know the sun will rise each day.

Amen

[Canuck Conservative]

The Reckoning in Doha: Why Israel’s Strike Against Hamas Was Both Justified and Overdue

"The explosions in Doha were not the sound of war expanding but of justice being served.

They were not an obstacle to peace but a prerequisite for it. For genuine peace requires the defeat of those who reject it, the elimination of those who make it impossible, and the demonstration that choosing violence brings not victory but destruction.

Israel has sent that message with crystalline clarity. The age of consequence-free terrorism is over. The sanctuary of Doha is shattered. Hamas’s leaders, wherever they hide, now understand a fundamental truth: you can run, but you cannot hide forever. And when justice finds you, whether in a Gaza tunnel or a Qatari hotel, the result will be the same.

This was not merely the right move. It was the only move. And it should have happened long ago."

Gregg Roman, Middle East Forum

https://www.meforum.org/mef-reports/the-reckoning-in-doha-why-israels-strike-against-hamas-was-both-justified-and-overdue

[Cyber Liberty]

I think people who believe Hamas was about to agree to "peace" before the bombing in Qatar are living in a fantasy world.  Hamas is pedal-to-the-metal as they always have been since before I was born, c1960.

[jafo2010]

RIV...

Quote
jafo2010:  Hamas has not budged on these final hostages because that is the last leverage they have against Israel.

RIV...
I've considered this, and my answer is "of course".

Then I look at the other side and ask:  has Israel not budged because freeing the final hostages (dead and alive) would remove the leverage they have for the time to turn rubble to dust and make moving the Palestinians off the strip more palatable to the civilized world?  My answer to this is also: "of course".

Now what happens?

What you do not comprehend, and I honestly do not know why, is that Hamas brutally attacked the Israeli state, killing 1,400 mostly civilians, not a single one looking to harm Hamas that day.  Hamas declared war every bit as much as the Japanese did on December 7th, 1941.

Israel is doing exactly what we did in the 40s by killing their enemy.  There are no innocents in Gaza, and I am offended every time I hear fools talk about the innocent civilians in Gaza.  The civilians in Gaza are no different than the civilians in Japan during WWII.  They support Hamas and the Japanese civilian population supported Japan's military.

Israel's objective is to win the war.  What does that mean exactly?  I would suggest nothing less than the surrender of Hamas, they surrendering their weapons, and ending the conflict.  Until that moment comes, Israel has every right to destroy and level Gaza as we did to Japan.  And if that means killing large quantities of civilians, and I believe it means exactly that, than so be it.

Palestinians through time have proven repeatedly many times not to be trusted.  Israeli leadership seized on an opportunity to take out Hamas leaders in Qatar.  Hamas has proven they do not want to end hostiliities, with the attack upon Israel just days before Israel hit them in Qatar.

You are a Hamas sympathizer and anti semite.  It is not a mystery here.

I have an Admiral Halsey mindset on one's enemy.  The only good  XXX, is one dead for six months or more.  He made that statement regarding Japanese in 1943, and he was right on target.  One could easily fill in the XXX with Palestinian today in Israel. 

You ask "now what happens"?  Israel needs to kill many more Palestinians in Gaza until they surrender.  PERIOD!  And the idiots of the world need to stay the hell out of their way.  And anything less than this guarantees a repeat of the Palestinians killing large numbers of Israelis down the road, again.

[Right_in_Virginia]

What you do not comprehend, and I honestly do not know why, is that Hamas brutally attacked the Israeli state, killing 1,400 mostly civilians, not a single one looking to harm Hamas that day. 

I comprehend the attack by Hamas on October 7, 2023 --- it took us 12 hours to locate two of our friends living in Israel.  @jafo2010

Hamas declared war every bit as much as the Japanese did on December 7th, 1941.

I don't understand how you can say this.  Starting with the Japanese: -- We were not fighting with them prior to Dec 7, 1941.  That date lives in infamy because it truly was a sneak attack, and a damn powerful sucker punch, that began a four year war. 

As to the Israelis: --- Oct 7, 2023 came in the 75th year of a continuous conflict with the Palestinians that began with the first of two displacements in 1948 followed by a second in 1967. For those 75 years, Palestinians were controlled by Israel --- sometimes with a velvet glove, sometimes with an iron fist --- but always controlled.

Hamas did not declare war on Israel on Oct 7, 2023 --- they escalated and changed forever the long existing one.  This is not a repeat of Japan in 1941.

Israel's objective is to win the war.  What does that mean exactly?

It's becoming more and more evident that for the Netanyahu government, victory is annexing the territory in question without a Palestinian on it.  Oh, and to accomplish this without receiving an invitation to appear before a judge in the Hague.

You are a Hamas sympathizer and anti semite.

No, I am not. 

I look at the Israel/Palestine mess and see it escalating rapidly and exponentially ---  and no evidence either side wants the mess cleaned up.  We've wasted enough time, energy, money and prestige being in the middle of this clusterbleep.  Let the neighborhood handle it from here.

I remain very pro-America and prefer to guard her assets, including our blood, treasure, reputation and inheritance rather than squander them.  I don't hear how our involvement so deeply in the Middle East benefits any asset.  If you know one, please, share it.

You ask "now what happens"?  Israel needs to kill many more Palestinians in Gaza until they surrender.  PERIOD!  And the idiots of the world need to stay the hell out of their way. 

I think your answer sets up another generation of whack-a-mole. 

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"  began the process of dehumanizing the Palestinians.  Herding them up and down the Gaza Strip by order of the IDF intensified the process; killing them at will will complete it.   But, the battle will remain engaged --- memories will survive and the Palestinian attempts at retribution will be frequent and intense.  ---- 

My favorite pro tip:   A problem cannot be solved using the same thinking that created it. 

___________________________________________________

Thanks for the conversation 

[jafo2010]

RIV....
I comprehend the attack by Hamas on October 7, 2023 --- it took us 12 hours to locate two of our friends living in Israel.  @jafo2010

jafo2010 - you are delusional.  You comprehend nothing.  Imagine such an attack on the southern border where 1,400 Americans were brutally murdered, raped, burnt alive, say by a drug cartel, what do you think the response would be to such a murderous attack?  I will tell you.  We would hunt every last one of them down and kill them, and no one would give a damn if civilians were hurt in the process.  The only excuse you have for your thinking is being a pacifist.

jafo2010...
Hamas declared war every bit as much as the Japanese did on December 7th, 1941.

RIV...
I don't understand how you can say this.  Starting with the Japanese: -- We were not fighting with them prior to Dec 7, 1941.  That date lives in infamy because it truly was a sneak attack, and a damn powerful sucker punch, that began a four year war.

jafo2010...
You simply do not know history.  We had the American Volunteer Group, aviators recruited by Claire Chennault in the fall of 1941 in China flying P40 aircraft and were in place ready to fight the Japanese before December 7th, and began operations shortly after December 7th.

And anyone in the know, knew war was immenent with Japan before Pearl Harbor.

And in Britain, we had Eagle Squadrons, again American aviators flying for the British as early as September, 1940, long before Pearl Harbor.

RIV...
As to the Israelis: --- Oct 7, 2023 came in the 75th year of a continuous conflict with the Palestinians that began with the first of two displacements in 1948 followed by a second in 1967. For those 75 years, Palestinians were controlled by Israel --- sometimes with a velvet glove, sometimes with an iron fist --- but always controlled.

Hamas did not declare war on Israel on Oct 7, 2023 --- they escalated and changed forever the long existing one.  This is not a repeat of Japan in 1941.

jafo2010...so, what does it take for you to consider war being declared?  Are you suggesting Israel just halt operations, let Hamas resume control of Gaza?  If so, you are a very dangerous person.  I already defined why in a prior posting.

jafo2010...
Israel's objective is to win the war.  What does that mean exactly?

RIV...
It's becoming more and more evident that for the Netanyahu government, victory is annexing the territory in question without a Palestinian on it.  Oh, and to accomplish this without receiving an invitation to appear before a judge in the Hague.


jafo2010... I doubt that is the motivation.  But if Israel kills every last Gazan, at least we will not see another surprise attack from the genocidal maniacs that are Palestinians from Gaza.

jafo2010...
You are a Hamas sympathizer and anti semite.

RIV...
No, I am not.

jafo2010...  YES, you are.  What do you expect Israel to do?  Stop and wait for the next genocidal attack by Hamas?  Really, what do you see?

RIV...
I look at the Israel/Palestine mess and see it escalating rapidly and exponentially ---  and no evidence either side wants the mess cleaned up.  We've wasted enough time, energy, money and prestige being in the middle of this clusterbleep.  Let the neighborhood handle it from here.

I remain very pro-America and prefer to guard her assets, including our blood, treasure, reputation and inheritance rather than squander them.  I don't hear how our involvement so deeply in the Middle East benefits any asset.  If you know one, please, share it.

jafo2010...
You ask "now what happens"?  Israel needs to kill many more Palestinians in Gaza until they surrender.  PERIOD!  And the idiots of the world need to stay the hell out of their way.

RIV...
I think your answer sets up another generation of whack-a-mole.

jafo2010... No whack a mole if you kill enough of the genocidal maniacs.  I favor killing every last one of them.  They train their children from the age of 3 to use automatic weapons to kill Jews.  Ugggh!

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us"  began the process of dehumanizing the Palestinians.  Herding them up and down the Gaza Strip by order of the IDF intensified the process; killing them at will will complete it.   But, the battle will remain engaged --- memories will survive and the Palestinian attempts at retribution will be frequent and intense.  ----

jafo2010...Love their children?  Guess what?  That will never happen.  Islam is based on the sword, and zero tolerance for anyone of another religion.  ZERO TOLERANCE.  They believe sending their children to kill the non beliver is righteous.  You either know nothing about islam, or you are a member.  As a member of islam, they believe they have the right to lie and do whatever is necessary in dealing with the non believer, including killing them.

RIV...
My favorite pro tip:   A problem cannot be solved using the same thinking that created it.

jafo2010...yes, and when dealing with a conflict where one side is completely insane, there is only one solution.  KILL THEM.  Sounds harsh, but there is no dealing with rabid animals but to kill them.