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Pretty narrow view on the role of Law Enforcement.

IF (and that's a big IF) the rest of the system is doing its job, the prosecutors are prosecuting, Courts are handing down convictions when appropriate, Judges are sentencing violators commensurate with the crime, and incarceration keeps the perpetrators separated from the community, crimes are prevented--crimes which would have been committed by those in lock up.

Furthermore, the presence of LEOs in neighborhoods which might have crime, given that the deterrent of prosecution, conviction, and sentencing is working, can further deter those who might be considering committing a crime, simply because it increases the likelihood of being subject to the judicial system and paying a price for their actions.
Which means potential perpetrators are more likely to seek another means, a legitimate means, of acquiring the things they want in life.

Only someone who cannot understand that dynamic, or someone who has been accustomed to a system in which the system which backs the actions of Law Enforcement is broken or corrupted would think that police are only there to solve crimes.

That said, relying solely on that presence, even in the best situations, for self defense, opens the individual to being a victim. It's why we have locks on our doors, good dogs, and a .45 in the nightstand. At its most basic level, the citizen is the first level of Law Enforcement, by knowing and complying with the law, and by having the means and ability to keep the peace until authorities arrive.
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So you say.
The Supreme Court ruling that police are not constitutionally required to protect individuals from harm is the 2005 case Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales. In this decision, the Supreme Court affirmed the principle that while police have a duty to enforce the law, they do not have an absolute obligation to protect every individual from harm unless there is a "special relationship" in place, such as when someone is in police custody.

I certainly recall when the ‘To Protect and Serve’ was removed from police vehicles. There was a very good reason why we had beat cops back in the day, they knew the neighborhood, the people, who belonged and who didn’t and most definitely acted as a deterrent.

A thought, does  Crock of __it receive police protection? If so, shouldn’t it be removed until someone actually commits a crime against her and it requires investigation?
« Last Edit: September 09, 2025, 11:14:51 am by GtHawk »

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So you say.
The Supreme Court ruling that police are not constitutionally required to protect individuals from harm is the 2005 case Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales. In this decision, the Supreme Court affirmed the principle that while police have a duty to enforce the law, they do not have an absolute obligation to protect every individual from harm unless there is a "special relationship" in place, such as when someone is in police custody.

I certainly recall when the ‘To Protect and Serve’ was removed from police vehicles. There was a very good reason why we had beat cops back in the day, they knew the neighborhood, the people, who belonged and who didn’t and most definitely acted as a deterrent.

A thought, does  Crock of __it receive police protection? If so, shouldn’t it be removed until someone actually commits a crime against her and it requires investigation?

You bring forward the point I meant with my positing of that simple motto.
The Constitution has nothing to do with it, so the Supreme Court can go hang. It ain't none of their business, and shouldn't be.

That motto is the motto of fraternity. It holds the honor that LEOs operate by. It is the banner they (used to) stand under.

Of course they can't protect 'every individual'. That is an impossibility just as absurd as the single soldier being personally responsible to kill every one of the enemy soldiers on the battlefield - technically true, but logistically ridiculous. The scotus argument is both true and utterly ridiculous.

However, the banner remains. Whether it is raised or not. That IS their noble cause.

I hold your opinion about beat cops to be true. And i think the next step was taking that motto away from them - Proposing to remove the noble cause - But it remains. They all know. Every one of them... The way to their Holy Grail. To be upright... to be noble... to be legit is To Protect and to Serve.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2025, 01:59:43 pm by roamer_1 »

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She doesn't realize it, but she's making the case the pro-Second Amendment have been making for years:  When seconds count the Police are (many) minutes away!
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She doesn't realize it, but she's making the case the pro-Second Amendment have been making for years:  When seconds count the Police are (many) minutes away!

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Get her to the mic! Quick!
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Get her to the mic! Quick!

Operation "just let them talk" continues apace....
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