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« Reply #151 on: August 28, 2025, 04:46:58 pm »
FOX News’ Trey Gowdy Says Time to Choose Between ‘Freedom’ or ‘Protecting Children’

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2025/08/28/fox-news-trey-gowdy-says-time-to-choose-between-freedom-or-protecting-children/

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« Reply #152 on: August 28, 2025, 05:06:25 pm »
FOX News’ Trey Gowdy Says Time to Choose Between ‘Freedom’ or ‘Protecting Children’

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2025/08/28/fox-news-trey-gowdy-says-time-to-choose-between-freedom-or-protecting-children/

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« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2025, 05:55:42 pm »
Grieving father calls Minneapolis shooter a 'coward' who took life of his 8-year-old son Fletcher during Mass
Victims include 8-year-old Fletcher Merkel and 10-year-old student at Annunciation Catholic Church
By Emma Waters , Lorraine Taylor , Greg Wehner Fox News
Published August 28, 2025 5:24pm EDT



The father of one of two victims who died in a shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic Church Mass on Wednesday said his family will never be allowed to hold him, talk to him, or watch him grow after a "coward" decided to take their 8-year-old’s life.

"Yesterday, a coward decided to take our…8-year-old son, Fletcher, away from us. Because of their actions, we will never be allowed to hold him, talk to him, play with him and watch him grow into the wonderful young man he was on the path to becoming," Jesse Merkel said on Thursday of his son. "Fletcher loved his family, friends, fishing, cooking, and any sport that he was allowed to play.

"While the hole in our hearts and lives will never be filled, I hope that in time our family can find healing. I pray that the other victim’s family can find some semblance of the same," he added.

Fletcher was one of two children who were killed in the Mass shooting, though the other victim, only identified as a 10-year-old student at Annunciation Catholic Church, has not yet been named

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« Reply #154 on: August 28, 2025, 05:59:14 pm »
And too many in the trans world think killing children is justified. VERY sick people.

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« Reply #155 on: August 28, 2025, 06:06:12 pm »
And too many in the trans world think killing children is justified. VERY sick people.
The trannies want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
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« Reply #156 on: August 28, 2025, 06:21:14 pm »
The trannies want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
Violent rhetoric about trannies supposedly being "genocided" (something they have already effectively done to themselves by removing themselves from the breeding population) has contributed to the militancy of an already mentally troubled population.

Feeding both the angst and delusions of this group does not help any of them, it propels them closer to the sort of psychosis seen in Minneapolis and elsewhere.

This is being manipulated to cause chaos, without any thought to the actual needs of a troubled segment of the population. If they decide that self-mutilation through surgical or other intervention is something they want as adults, that will likely be available to them.

In the meantime, dumping cross-sex hormones into the pubescent stew coursing through the veins of our youth is apparently a dangerous course of action, with mental health effects which are not fully understood, just from the homicidal/suicidal ideation evident in the actions of people who have undergone this course of treatment.

It is likely these effects are not being seriously (scientifically) investigated from onset to eventual outcome. I would think there are enough people out there already that those bent on medical experimentation could determine net overall long term effects of the hormones and other medication, surgeries, etc. on the well being of the subjects without creating even more.

This is a mental health crisis, not a crisis of the tools used in perpetrating violence, which have been around for some time. The new element in this social stoichiometry is the group of disturbed people committing the violence against others who have posed them no threat.

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« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2025, 06:22:38 pm »
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« Reply #158 on: August 28, 2025, 06:22:49 pm »
My list of politicians and leaders who have disappointed me grows by the day. Gowdy is certainly on page one of the list.

Ditto.
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« Reply #159 on: August 28, 2025, 06:29:05 pm »
My list of politicians and leaders who have disappointed me grows by the day. Gowdy is certainly on page one of the list.
No mention of protecting children from the modern day Mengeles who would 'fundamentally change them' into some caricature of what they have been convinced they should be.

Yeah, as far as I see, he shat in his mess kit on this one.
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« Reply #160 on: August 28, 2025, 06:36:59 pm »
This he/her/them/it was obviously certifiable. And probably was before he became Robin.

Truthfully, I think anyone who has a desire to go shoot up a bunch of people is coo-coo. Transgender or not. This is just giving us a whole new subculture of deviants.

I wish I knew the answer...but I don't. The folks saying prayer doesn't work will have to tell me what they think might work. There is only one entity that might help...and he ain't living among us. Guns aren't the problem. Insanity, cruelty and lack of morals is.

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« Reply #161 on: August 28, 2025, 07:02:52 pm »
Unearthed letter exposes how Minnesota Catholic leaders warned Walz on school safety

'The latest school shooting at a nonpublic Christian school in Tennessee sadly confirms what we already know – our schools are under attack,' the letter said

By Peter Pinedo , Deirdre Heavey Fox News
Published August 28, 2025 5:21pm EDT | Updated August 28, 2025 5:34pm EDT

In a resurfaced letter to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the head of the Minnesota Catholic Conference expressed that Catholic and other nonpublic schools were in "urgent and critical need" of security improvements, saying, "Our schools are under attack."

The plea went unheeded, and two years later, the concerns raised by Catholic leaders materialized when a gunman opened fire on students of a Minneapolis Catholic school while they were attending Mass, leaving two dead and 17 injured.

The letter was first reported on by the Daily Wire and was sent by Minnesota Catholic Conference Executive Director Jason Adkins and Tim Benz, president of the private school advocacy group MINNDEPENDENT. The letter was sent on April 14, 2023, and is still publicly available on the Minnesota Catholic Conference’s website.

"We are writing on behalf of our respective organizations regarding the urgent and critical need in Minnesota to make sure our schools are secure and safe considering the most recent, and continuing attacks, on our schools in this country and in our state," the leaders wrote.

In the letter, the leaders pointed to the mass shooting at Covenant Christian School in Nashville, which had occurred just a week before the letter was sent, saying, "The latest school shooting at a nonpublic Christian school in Tennessee sadly confirms what we already know – our schools are under attack."

"In Minnesota, nonpublic schools, particularly our Jewish and Muslim schools, have experienced increased levels of threats, all of which we must take very seriously," the leaders added. "The tragedy from last week at Covenant School must never happen in Minnesota or in our country again."

The leaders expressed serious concern that the 72,000 students enrolled in independent, Catholic, Jewish, Christian and Muslim schools in Minnesota could be in danger due to nonpublic schools being excluded from the $50 million Building and Cyber Security Grant Program and the state’s Safe Schools Program, which provides emergency response training, security upgrades, mental health services and other security measures.

The leaders said they were especially concerned given "the most recent, and continuing attacks, on our schools in this country and in our state."

"We need to ensure that all of schools have the resources to respond to and prevent these attacks from happening to our schools," the leaders wrote.

"An attack on any school, whether it is a public, nonpublic, charter or another school site, cannot be tolerated or allowed to happen in Minnesota," the leaders added. "We want to make sure Minnesota is doing everything it can to ensure that all our students are safe and secure. We ask you include $50 million in the final Education Finance bill and allow nonpublic schools to apply for funding."

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« Reply #162 on: August 28, 2025, 07:36:33 pm »
Maybe it’s time we treat trans what it really is and that is as a mental health issue

If you hate yourself so much that you’re willing to mutilate yourself, then you have a mental health problem

If we saw a teenage girl that was cutting herself because of her self loathing, people would intervene.
We would seek help for her. We would want to find the root cause of why she wants to  harm herself

But yet when it comes to the trans issue, the left puts its  efforts to convince society that they should be allowed to play in women’s sports and it’s just fine to pump children and adolescents full of experimental hormones







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« Reply #163 on: August 28, 2025, 07:48:15 pm »
Grieving father calls Minneapolis shooter a 'coward' who took life of his 8-year-old son Fletcher during Mass
Victims include 8-year-old Fletcher Merkel and 10-year-old student at Annunciation Catholic Church
By Emma Waters , Lorraine Taylor , Greg Wehner Fox News
Published August 28, 2025 5:24pm EDT



The father of one of two victims who died in a shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic Church Mass on Wednesday said his family will never be allowed to hold him, talk to him, or watch him grow ....

"While the hole in our hearts and lives will never be filled, I hope that in time our family can find healing. I pray that the other victim’s family can find some semblance of the same," he added.

The monster known as Jen Psaki insists all prayer stop.

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« Reply #164 on: August 28, 2025, 08:53:30 pm »
The family of the second student killed in the shooting, Harper Moyski, said in a statement obtained by FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul that it was "devastated" to share the news of their daughter's death

"We are devastated to share the our beloved daughter, Harper Moyski, was tragically killed in the recent school shooting," the family Michael Moyski and Jackie Flavin said. "Harper was a bright, joyful and deeply loved 10-year-old whose laughter, kindness and spirit touched everyone who knew her."

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« Reply #165 on: August 28, 2025, 09:29:22 pm »
The monster known as Jen Psaki insists all prayer stop.

She can insist all she wants. I don’t take spiritual advice from atheists.
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« Reply #166 on: August 29, 2025, 05:39:28 am »
Minneapolis police chief urges media outlets to stop saying church shooter's name, says 'no doubt' he wanted to terrorize innocent children
 
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara and acting U.S. attorney for Minnesota Joe Thompson give an update on the state's deadly shooting.

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« Reply #167 on: August 29, 2025, 05:41:44 am »
They don't want to give a face and name to the LGBTQIZHWXCOU movement.  Got to protect everyone you know.
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« Reply #168 on: August 29, 2025, 05:55:38 am »
I am opposed to giving out the identities of these sick B@$T@RD$ on general principals. It gives them 15 minutes of infamy and could inspire others of the same mindset to attempt something similar.
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« Reply #169 on: August 29, 2025, 09:17:56 am »
REPORT: MN School Shooter’s Mother Refuses To Cooperate With Police

Published 10 hours ago

on August 28, 2025

By Cullen McCue

The mother of Robin Westman, the school shooter who took his own life after murdering two students aged 8 and 10 while wounding 17 others, is refusing to cooperate with police in the ongoing investigation. She has also hired a criminal defense attorney, according to Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara.

Mary Grace Westman, who worked at Annunciation Catholic School, which was targeted by the deranged 23-year-old gunman on Wednesday morning, has not yet contacted police. She has also refused to respond to their attempts to reach her, the department announced Thursday evening.

“We have not been successful in talking to the shooter’s mother,” Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara told reporters.

O’Hara did not provide additional details, though he did announce that four search warrants were executed throughout the last 36 hours, which yielded the retrieval of hundreds of pieces of evidence and the seizure of multiple electronic devices. Mary Grace has also enlisted the services of criminal defense attorney Ryan Garry, according to a report from Fox News.

“She is completely distraught about the situation and has no culpability but is seeking an attorney to deal with calls like this,” Garry told the outlet.

Garry previously represented former NFL star Colin Kaepernick in a lawsuit representing Black Lives Matter protesters, represented rapper Desiigner when he was charged with indecent exposure on an aircraft in 2023 and secured a not guilty verdict for a decorated state trooper wrongfully accused of a sex crime, according to a report from the New York Post.

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« Reply #170 on: August 29, 2025, 09:23:11 am »
We've all been waiting for the opinion of perpetual idiot Stephen King:
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As long as guns are easily available to crazy people, mass killings directed at soft targets will continue. This is a fact. Countries where it's more difficult for crazy people to obtain guns have fewer mass killings. This is also a fact. Do with these facts as you will.
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Let's check this "fact" by looking at the process for buying a gun in Mexico, which has a murder rate 5X higher than the U.S.:

-There are only 2 gun stores in the entire country, both highly secured compounds run by the military.

-It takes months to be approved to buy a gun.

-IDs must be checked and logged, visitors must go through metal detectors and have their photos taken on the way in and out of the store. Cell phones are not allowed inside. Documents are checked at the door.

-Documents include a gun acquisition form, proof of no federal criminal record, medical and psychological evaluations, a drug test, proof of your residence and employment, copies of your identification, birth certificate, tax number and, if applicable, your membership in a shooting club.

-Mexico maintains a national registry that requires the buyer to provide a name, address and fingerprints.

-Most Mexicans are legally permitted one handgun (up to .380 caliber) for self-defense per registered address, and up to nine longer firearms (rifles up to .22 and shotguns up to 12 gauge) if enrolled in a shooting or hunting club that is registered with the military.

-Even police and military personnel have to go through this process if they want to have a weapon at home for protection, which they need since the cartels target them.

-There are far fewer firearms in Mexico than in the U.S., with about 20 million civilian guns in Mexico, mostly unregistered, compared with 400 million privately owned guns in the United States, according to the Small Arms Survey, a research group. ...
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Apparently, King is not familiar with the mass killings - with guns, even! - carried out by the cartels in Mexico.  :pondering:
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« Reply #171 on: August 29, 2025, 09:26:02 am »
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The Socialist Rifle Association is one of the far-left militia groups that train transgender and Antifa-linked radicals to kill.
The Minnesota chapter uses the same symbols that the Minneapolis trans mass sh—ter put in his manifesto journal detailing death before detransition.
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« Reply #172 on: August 29, 2025, 10:06:19 am »

Mary Grace Westman, who worked at Annunciation Catholic School, which was targeted by the deranged 23-year-old gunman on Wednesday morning, has not yet contacted police. She has also refused to respond to their attempts to reach her, the department announced Thursday evening.

“We have not been successful in talking to the shooter’s mother,” Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara told reporters.
Arrest her and charge her @$$ with Obstruction.
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« Reply #173 on: August 29, 2025, 10:10:50 am »
Arrest her and charge her @$$ with Obstruction.

 :yowsa: along with aiding and abetting!
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« Reply #174 on: August 29, 2025, 10:17:00 am »
Minnesota bishop rebukes Dem mayor for dismissing prayer following deadly Catholic school attack
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said 'don't say this is about thoughts and prayers' after gunman killed two children during Mass

By Kristine Parks Fox News
Published August 29, 2025 6:00am EDT

Minnesota Bishop Robert Barron sharply criticized Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey for dismissing calls for prayer following Wednesday’s deadly Catholic school shooting, calling the mayor’s remarks "completely asinine."

"Catholics don’t think that prayer magically protects them from all suffering. After all, Jesus prayed fervently from the cross on which he was dying," Barron told Fox News Digital.

The shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis killed two children and injured 18 other people during a morning Mass, according to police. FBI Director Kash Patel confirmed the bureau is investigating the attack as both a possible act of domestic terrorism and a hate crime targeting Catholics.

Investigators said the gunman left anti-religious writings in his manifesto and scrawled similar messages on his firearms.

At a press conference after the tragedy, Frey criticized those calling for prayer.

"Don’t say this is about ‘thoughts and prayers’ right now — these kids were literally praying," he said. "It was the first week of school - they were in a church."

His remarks echoed those of some Democratic officials and liberal media figures who disparaged faith-based responses to the tragedy.

Barron, an influential Catholic leader who leads the Diocese of Winona-Rochester, argued that critics misunderstand the role of prayer.

"Prayer is the raising of the mind and heart to God, which strikes me as altogether appropriate precisely at times of great pain," he said. "And prayer by no means stands in contrast to decisive moral action. Martin Luther King was a man of deep prayer, who also effected a social revolution in our country. This is not an either/or proposition."

Barron also said the massacre should be recognized for what it was: a deliberate act of anti-Catholic violence.

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« Reply #175 on: August 29, 2025, 10:18:10 am »
Arrest her and charge her @$$ with Obstruction.

Apparently, she's lawyered up.

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« Reply #176 on: August 29, 2025, 10:45:34 am »

Students duck for cover as shots are fired into the church during the service.


An older female student pushes several younger students out the door to safety after the gunfire erupted.
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« Reply #178 on: August 29, 2025, 12:42:18 pm »
Not sure if it's been posted here yet...but the shooter's mother has hired a criminal defense lawyer and has refused to cooperate with the police.

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« Reply #179 on: August 29, 2025, 12:51:38 pm »
She's fled, hasn't she?
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« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2025, 01:08:49 pm »
Arrest her and charge her @$$ with Obstruction.

And what is the very first thing the arresting officers have to say when they arrest her for being silent and lawyering up?

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. You have the right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right to stop answering at any time.

Asserting your established and defined rights is not 'obstruction'.
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« Reply #181 on: August 29, 2025, 02:00:25 pm »
We're hearing about the mother, but not the father - who also was "all in" on Robert's transition, by the way, even sending a "hooray transgender" type of card on the boy's 18th birthday. The parents were divorced, apparently. I have read the father had some connection to the CIA, but don't yet know if that's just the usual tinfoil stuff.

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« Reply #182 on: August 29, 2025, 02:06:45 pm »
Ah, here we are:

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The killer in Minneapolis’ father is a long time developer in infosec at ESRI and here is a summary: “James Westman is a Senior Application Developer at Esri, based in Saint Paul, Minnesota, a role he has held since 1996. He previously worked as a GIS Specialist at Bay West LLC from 1991 to 1996. His educational background includes a Master of Science (MS) in Environmental Monitoring from the University of Wisconsin-Madison (1987–1989) and a Bachelor of Science (BS) in Natural Resources/Conservation, General from the University of Michigan (1981–1985). His professional skills encompass Python, Java, Microsoft SQL Server, Dojo, and he is a Certified Scrum Master (CSM).”
Apparently the FBI are currently searching his family home for a motive..
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Esri allegedly provides GIS software like ArcGIS to government agencies, including intelligence community members like the CIA. It collaborates with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency on the IC GIS Portal, used by the CIA and others for intelligence.:

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« Reply #183 on: August 29, 2025, 03:09:12 pm »
And what is the very first thing the arresting officers have to say when they arrest her for being silent and lawyering up?

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. You have the right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you have the right to stop answering at any time.

Asserting your established and defined rights is not 'obstruction'.
You are correct, but her silence contributed to this. She and others need to understand the gravity of stupidity.
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« Reply #184 on: August 29, 2025, 04:29:04 pm »
Apparently, she's lawyered up.

I can almost understand that. I can’t imagine being in her situation. She is likely panicked and stressed beyond measure. She is also likely sleep deprived, not eating, and medicated. Her world has crashed. She fears everything. So, she retains an attorney. I get it.

Hopefully, the attorney is instructed to cooperate with investigators to whatever extent is possible. We’ll see.
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« Reply #185 on: August 29, 2025, 04:43:53 pm »
I can almost understand that. I can’t imagine being in her situation. She is likely panicked and stressed beyond measure. She is also likely sleep deprived, not eating, and medicated. Her world has crashed. She fears everything. So, she retains an attorney. I get it.

Hopefully, the attorney is instructed to cooperate with investigators to whatever extent is possible. We’ll see.

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Agree! 

There was a wonderful caller to the syndicated Chris Plante Show this morning on 105.9FM in the D.C. region.

Caller had 2 points:

1) This 20's generation never knew the world without internet and handheld smart phones.  The internet is worse than heroin to the weakest minded of that generation.

2) The Church shooter was used as an example... the poster boy for his thesis.

Internet chats that send "love bombs" where a gang of people rush to gush and congratulate to the person who decides to mutilate themselves.

The need to be remembered...to leave a mark because of his finding that all he did was create an ugly freak.

Sorry for rambling...it was really powerful!
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« Reply #186 on: August 29, 2025, 04:57:53 pm »
Breaking:Minneapolis shooter Robin Westman had broken up with a 'romantic partner' shortly before school massacre

Minneapolis school shooter Robin Westman had recently split up with a 'romantic partner' before the Annunication massacre according to a search warrant obtained by FOX 9 Investigators.

During a search of Westman's father's home, investigators revealed that the shooter 'broke up with a significant and/or romantic partner' and had been staying with a friend shortly before Wednesday's tragedy.
The Minneapolis school shooter had only recently broken up with a romantic partner before killing two children in a horrific attack, it has been revealed.

Robin Westman, who identified as a transgender woman, had been involved with a 'significant' partner, but the relationship recently ended, the killer's father told police.

The gender of Westman's former 'romantic partner' is unclear.

The killer had been staying with a friend in the aftermath of the break-up, according to a search warrant obtained by FOX 9.

Westman's neighbors at the Lynwood Commons Apartments complex, about a 10-minute drive from the Annunciation Catholic Church, said the killer appeared to have a female roommate.

It is unclear if the shooter was living at the complex with the friend or the former partner.

Westman fired 116 rifle rounds through the stained-glass windows of the Annunciation Catholic Church while school children were celebrating Mass Wednesday morning.

The mass shooting killed two students, aged eight and 10, and left 18 other victims injured.

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« Reply #187 on: August 29, 2025, 04:58:41 pm »
Police found Robin Westman wearing mask and body armor, report says

Minneapolis police found school shooter Robin Westman wearing a mask and body armor, according to a newly filed search warrant obtained by the Star Tribune.

On the ground near the shooter, police found a scope for a gun and a two-by-four with what appeared to be smoke bombs attached.

They also found a metal pull pin, possibly for the smoke bomb that went off. A household knife was on the ground, but it is unclear if it belonged to Westman.

Police also collected a single glove, headphones and a zip-up sweatshirt
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« Reply #188 on: August 29, 2025, 05:00:11 pm »
Robin Westman's stepmother warned shooter was surrounded by 'dark energy'

Robin Westman suggested in a chilling manifesto that her family members should not be surprised by the mass shooting.

'I feel like my mom would have seen it coming due to my rocky past with violent threats,' the Minneapolis killer wrote in the journal.

Another highlighted how the shooter's stepmother recently commented on the 'dark energy' that surrounded Westman.

'The other day my stepmom… said she could feel a ‘dark energy’ around me… if only you know!' the shooter added.

In a separate entry, Westman revealed she decided not to carry out an act of mass violence because the killer did not want to cause pain to her family.

But the shooter's mind later changed and in a recent journal entry said: 'I don’t want to f***ing do this I hate myself. I cannot turn back. I cannot stop myself.'
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« Reply #189 on: August 29, 2025, 05:01:10 pm »
Minneapolis children's hospital doctor recalls heartbreaking question asked by shooting victim

During the shooting, Westman's bullets ripped apart on impact, exploding into 'twisted, mangled shards of metal' that tore through children in every direction, Dr. Rachel Weigert at Children's Minnesota Hospital explained.

Some fragments were too dangerous to remove — lodged so close to nerves and vital tissue that surgeons were forced to leave them inside.

One little girl, left with a fragment in her skull, asked the question that still haunts her doctors: 'How am I supposed to brush my hair? I’ll feel it there every single day.'
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« Reply #190 on: August 29, 2025, 05:02:27 pm »
Witnesses describe horrifying scenes as shooting unfolded

Witness Catherine Spandel, an alumni of Annunciation and active member of the parish, told NPR on Thursday said that worshippers had started the psalm 'You have Searched Me and You Know Me Lord' when shots rang out.

Inside the church, Spandel stretched toward the children’s pastoral minister, who was crouched beneath a pew two rows ahead.

'She was facing me and we reached towards each other and we prayed the Hail Mary together and we were both crying. And I asked God for absolution from all my sins. I asked Him to protect my family because I was certain that I was going to die,' Spandel said.

Tiffany Tomlin-Kurtz, a resident of south Minneapolis who lived close to the Annunication school, started her day working from home when she overheard Westman's rain of gunfire.

She ran outside to see what was happening.

'I've got an image that I will never forget, a mom running towards the school and running towards active gunfire,' Tomlin-Kurtz told the outlet.
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« Reply #191 on: August 29, 2025, 05:13:45 pm »
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Minneapolis shooter carried out 'practice run' in sick massacre planning

The Minneapolis school shooter meticulously planned the horrific attack by conducting a trial run beforehand, using her faith to gain trust and making sure parents weren't around during to try to stop the killing.

Robin Westman, 23, targeted Annunciation Catholic School Wednesday after surveying the church in advance to see how many adults were around. Two children were killed, eight-year-old Fletcher Merkel and 10-year-old Harper Moyski.

Westman wrote chilling plans in a notebook that appeared to point to several trips to the church beforehand.

'Both times I went to the church, I didn't see any men under the age of 55,' the killer's manifesto reads.

'I only saw old people and some mom-aged ladies, some with very young kids. Even still, these boomers could be packing.'

Westman said the school's online schedule helped her plan the vicious and fatal attack that killed Merkel and Moyski and injured 18 others while they sat in pews and prayed.

'The school schedule is publicly posted online so I should go through that and look for events that look promising,' Westman wrote on July 25 in the handwritten diary she shared in a now-deleted YouTube video.

'Oooo! Aug. 27th, that is an all-school mass!'

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« Reply #192 on: August 29, 2025, 05:35:00 pm »
I can almost understand that. I can’t imagine being in her situation. She is likely panicked and stressed beyond measure. She is also likely sleep deprived, not eating, and medicated. Her world has crashed. She fears everything. So, she retains an attorney. I get it.

Hopefully, the attorney is instructed to cooperate with investigators to whatever extent is possible. We’ll see.



I totally get it. The whole situation is bad enough without having to deal with the press. The lawyer can deal with it. Aside from the trauma of the situation, she is more than likely having to deal with family and "friends".

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« Reply #193 on: August 29, 2025, 05:40:02 pm »
Here is the image of a running Mom heading to the shooting zone:

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« Reply #194 on: August 29, 2025, 05:43:01 pm »
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Minneapolis shooter carried out 'practice run' in sick massacre planning

The Minneapolis school shooter meticulously planned the horrific attack by conducting a trial run beforehand, using her faith to gain trust and making sure parents weren't around during to try to stop the killing.

Robin Westman, 23, targeted Annunciation Catholic School Wednesday after surveying the church in advance to see how many adults were around. Two children were killed, eight-year-old Fletcher Merkel and 10-year-old Harper Moyski.

Westman wrote chilling plans in a notebook that appeared to point to several trips to the church beforehand.

'Both times I went to the church, I didn't see any men under the age of 55,' the killer's manifesto reads.

'I only saw old people and some mom-aged ladies, some with very young kids. Even still, these boomers could be packing.'

Westman said the school's online schedule helped her plan the vicious and fatal attack that killed Merkel and Moyski and injured 18 others while they sat in pews and prayed.

'The school schedule is publicly posted online so I should go through that and look for events that look promising,' Westman wrote on July 25 in the handwritten diary she shared in a now-deleted YouTube video.

'Oooo! Aug. 27th, that is an all-school mass!'

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« Reply #195 on: August 29, 2025, 06:41:29 pm »
There was a wonderful caller to the syndicated Chris Plante Show this morning on 105.9FM in the D.C. region.

Caller had 2 points:

1) This 20's generation never knew the world without internet and handheld smart phones.  The internet is worse than heroin to the weakest minded of that generation.

2) The Church shooter was used as an example... the poster boy for his thesis.
Sounds like something I'd agree with 100%.
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« Reply #196 on: August 29, 2025, 06:50:32 pm »
I can almost understand that. I can’t imagine being in her situation. She is likely panicked and stressed beyond measure. She is also likely sleep deprived, not eating, and medicated. Her world has crashed. She fears everything. So, she retains an attorney. I get it.

Agree.

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The mother of the shooter who opened fire Wednesday on a Minneapolis Catholic school during morning Mass has hired a criminal defense attorney, as police said Friday there "has been conversation" with her.

[B5In a news conference Friday, Minneapolis Police Assistant Chief Christopher Gaiters was asked if there's been any contact with the suspect's mother, Mary Grace Westman.

"Through working with our partners, with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension of Minnesota, there has been conversation, and I am not at liberty to go any further than that," he said.[/b]

It comes after Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said Thursday that police "have not been successful in talking to the shooter's mother yet."

O'Hara had said Thursday that Robin Westman's family has been cooperating with investigators; however, they have not yet located her mother, Mary Grace Westman. Records show that her residence is in Florida.

He said investigators have done dozens of interviews with the shooter’s family, friends and associates, and have talked to the shooter's father.

Mary Grace Westman's attorney, Ryan Garry, told NBC News on Thursday that he had no comment at this time. The FBI and police department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Friday.

Authorities often seek to speak with the families of mass shooters as they investigate a motive. In one high-profile case following a 2021 shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, the parents of shooter Ethan Crumbley were charged and convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

James and Jennifer Crumbley were sentenced in April 2024 to 10 to 15 years in prison. Their son pleaded guilty and was sentenced to life in prison.

Police have not said whether Mary Grace Westman or any family members potentially face charges. O'Hara told reporters on Thursday that the department will continue to try to speak with the shooter's mother.


More:  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-church-shooters-mother-hires-criminal-defense-attorney-rcna227958

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« Reply #197 on: August 29, 2025, 06:57:42 pm »
Witnesses describe horrifying scenes as shooting unfolded

I've read several accounts where "older" students instinctively protected the younger ones, even covering them with their own bodies.  I can't explain why these made me tear up.   :crying:

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« Reply #198 on: August 29, 2025, 07:00:49 pm »
I've read several accounts where "older" students instinctively protected the younger ones, even covering them with their own bodies.  I can't explain why these made me tear up.   :crying:

Heard Chris Plante this morning say that Annunciation School has an organized "Buddy System".

They match up older kids with the youngest...exchanging "HIGH 5's" in the halls or playground, showing them the ropes...teaching them HOW not to fidget, etc..
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« Reply #199 on: August 29, 2025, 07:02:31 pm »
I've read several accounts where "older" students instinctively protected the younger ones, even covering them with their own bodies.  I can't explain why these made me tear up.   :crying:


It did me as well. 8888crybaby