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East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« on: August 17, 2025, 09:47:14 am »
August 17, 2025
East to Alaska
By Clarice Feldman

On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin flew to Alaska to meet with President Trump in an effort to resolve the long-running war with Ukraine. (Too many geographically handicapped people believed SNL’s skit deriding Sarah Palin, asserting that she had said she could see Russia from her home, and they were surprised to learn how short an eastward trip from Russia is to the United States.)

For a long time, corporate media have largely framed the war as one of an innocent party viciously attacked by a big neighbor, one that is worthy of unending military and financial support. As Trump has signaled, he’s had enough and wants Ukraine’s neighbors, whose interest is greater than ours, to step up, and several Western European leaders have mouthed support. In advance of the summit, Stephen Bryen set out some relevant facts, most of which are not well-publicized elsewhere, one of the most pertinent of which is that support for the war has dropped substantially in Ukraine:

    “More than three years into the war, Ukrainians’ support for continuing to fight until victory has hit a new low. In Gallup’s most recent poll of Ukraine -- conducted in early July -- 69% say they favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible, compared with 24% who support continuing to fight until victory.

    This marks a nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022, when 73% favored Ukraine fighting until victory and 22% preferred that Ukraine seek a negotiated end as soon as possible. Yet, Zelensky continues doing whatever he can to sabotage the Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska and to behave as if Ukraine's army still has some hope of winning a war they are clearly losing.”

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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2025, 10:11:54 am »
August 17, 2025
East to Alaska
By Clarice Feldman

On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin flew to Alaska to meet with President Trump in an effort to resolve the long-running war with Ukraine. (Too many geographically handicapped people believed SNL’s skit deriding Sarah Palin, asserting that she had said she could see Russia from her home, and they were surprised to learn how short an eastward trip from Russia is to the United States.)

For a long time, corporate media have largely framed the war as one of an innocent party viciously attacked by a big neighbor, one that is worthy of unending military and financial support. As Trump has signaled, he’s had enough and wants Ukraine’s neighbors, whose interest is greater than ours, to step up, and several Western European leaders have mouthed support. In advance of the summit, Stephen Bryen set out some relevant facts, most of which are not well-publicized elsewhere, one of the most pertinent of which is that support for the war has dropped substantially in Ukraine:

    “More than three years into the war, Ukrainians’ support for continuing to fight until victory has hit a new low. In Gallup’s most recent poll of Ukraine -- conducted in early July -- 69% say they favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible, compared with 24% who support continuing to fight until victory.

    This marks a nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022, when 73% favored Ukraine fighting until victory and 22% preferred that Ukraine seek a negotiated end as soon as possible. Yet, Zelensky continues doing whatever he can to sabotage the Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska and to behave as if Ukraine's army still has some hope of winning a war they are clearly losing.”

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I think Ukraine is doing pretty well considering. Russians are a bunch of wimps.

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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2025, 11:35:42 am »
I think Ukraine is doing pretty well considering. Russians are a bunch of wimps.

I agree that Ukraine has fought amazingly bravely and well, and has done a great deal of damage to Russia, both in terms of materiel and treasure, and have inflicted casualties in excess of 1 million Russians.  Far better than anybody expected!

But I think it's likely Ukraine will probably lose a good bit of real estate in the East, and I don't like that
one bit.  The reality on the ground is most people in the eastern Oblasts speak Russian or are bilingual, which is a sad reminder of the "Russification" of that region due to Russia's immigration policies since WW2.  As distasteful as that is, it will save the rest of Ukraine (for now.  It's up to Europe to keep it that way).  I hate to see Russia gain one square inch of land as a reward for their aggressive invasion of it's small neighbor, but it is what it is...and Russia's economy has taken a major hit in the process. 

That may lead to a collapse, and maybe even a regime change that sweeps Putin out of power.  That's entirely up to the Russian people if they are up to it.
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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2025, 01:11:16 pm »
I agree that Ukraine has fought amazingly bravely and well, and has done a great deal of damage to Russia, both in terms of materiel and treasure, and have inflicted casualties in excess of 1 million Russians.  Far better than anybody expected!

But I think it's likely Ukraine will probably lose a good bit of real estate in the East, and I don't like that
one bit.  The reality on the ground is most people in the eastern Oblasts speak Russian or are bilingual, which is a sad reminder of the "Russification" of that region due to Russia's immigration policies since WW2.  As distasteful as that is, it will save the rest of Ukraine (for now.  It's up to Europe to keep it that way).  I hate to see Russia gain one square inch of land as a reward for their aggressive invasion of it's small neighbor, but it is what it is...and Russia's economy has taken a major hit in the process. 

That may lead to a collapse, and maybe even a regime change that sweeps Putin out of power.  That's entirely up to the Russian people if they are up to it.
Who knows what the Russian people will do? My bet is very little, because every word they read is more strictly controlled than they imagine. If Putin even gains an inch he will claim victory, and will be back for more later.
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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2025, 02:03:45 pm »
The reality on the ground is most people in the eastern Oblasts speak Russian or are bilingual, which is a sad reminder of the "Russification" of that region due to Russia's immigration policies since WW2.  As distasteful as that is, it will save the rest of Ukraine (for now.  It's up to Europe to keep it that way).

I don't think the Russians give a damn about what language the people in Donetsk speak.  They just want to rid the land of Ukrainians and steal their resources.


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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2025, 02:16:03 pm »
Who knows what the Russian people will do? My bet is very little, because every word they read is more strictly controlled than they imagine. If Putin even gains an inch he will claim victory, and will be back for more later.

I think the odds favor Putin, to be honest.  I wouldn't bet against you.
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Re: East to Alaska... By Clarice Feldman
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2025, 02:19:28 pm »
I don't think the Russians give a damn about what language the people in Donetsk speak.  They just want to rid the land of Ukrainians and steal their resources.


Avdiivka - 87% Russian speaking




Bakhmut - 62% Russian speaking




Toretsk - 87% Russian speaking




Horlivka - 85% Russian speaking



The people of Donetsk are probably pretty tired of being the battlefield and don't much care which side "wins."
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