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Begala: Midterms Will Be an ‘Earthquake,’ Dems Will Win ’40-Seat Landslide’

Pam Key 5 Aug 2025

Tuesday on CNN’s “News Central,” former advisor to President Bill Clinton Paul Begala predicted the Republican Party will lose the majority in the 2026 midterm elections in a “40-seat landslide.”

Co-host John Berman said, “Tensions erupting at lawmaker’s town hall. With the House on summer recess, many members are back home meeting with constituents. For Nebraska Republican Mike Flood, things got a little testy last night early and often as he defended President Trump’s policies.”

After playing several clips from the event, Berman asked, “Paul, what do you see in that town hall?”

Begala said, “Remember last week there was a terrible earthquake off the coast of Russia, and it took a long time before tsunami waves hit? Fortunately nobody was hurt. This is an earthquake, this is coming. The Republicans are looking at a wave election.”

He added, “This is what happened the last time, 2017. They cut taxes for the rich and tried to end Obamacare, and they failed. They lost 41 House seats in the next election. This combination of this bill where they cut taxes for the rich, exploded the debt, and cut health care for working people, that’s not going to fly man, that’s just not. 454 days away, that is a long time but I’m telling you, it’s going to be a 40-seat landslide, and the Republicans in Congress, I think, know it.”

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'For Nebraska Republican Mike Flood, things got a little testy last night early and often as he defended President Trump’s policies.”

It has been shown that the 'testy' comes from democrat operatives.


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'For Nebraska Republican Mike Flood, things got a little testy last night early and often as he defended President Trump’s policies.”

It has been shown that the 'testy' comes from democrat operatives.
So that's what happened to their testys... :thud:
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Bold claim.

Not really. They've already printed the winning ballots.
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Bold claim.

Maybe

But they gained 40 seats and seven governorships in the 2018 midterms.


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Will Begala put any of his money on that claim???

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Not really. They've already printed the winning ballots.

With how things are going they may not need to. I'm just not sure about 40 seats...

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With how things are going they may not need to. I'm just not sure about 40 seats...

40 seats wouldn’t be that unusual. Republicans gained over 60 seats in the House in the 2010 election despite the party still being unpopular with voters

Begala may be under shooting here. We’ll see.

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Will Begala put any of his money on that claim???
More importantly: would Paulie Pelosi?
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Pollsters have not been accurate in reading deplorables and MAGA's.

Trump's tariff insanity and uncertainty could possibly lead to stagflation with higher real interest rates.

Businesses may not hire as much due to business uncertainty.

Tarrifs on goods without competitively priced domestic alternatives will be inflationary.  Example:  Puerto Rico and Hawaii will not produce enough coffee to meet domestic demand.  Coffee will be needlessly and senselessly more expensive.

Foreign trade surpluses have been subsidizing America's unsustainable Government spending.  With smaller trade surpluses, plus spite and de-risking away from the dollar, foreigners may buy fewer US Treasury Bonds, driving up real interest rates.

We could find oursleves in an economic situation that the Fed can't easily manipulate our way out.  Congress might have to show up and do hard work.
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The fact is, that the damage done by Biden was so severe and total, it will take until next year, this time, for the benefits of what Trump is doing to begin manifesting to the public.  In the meantime, the do nothing Republicans in Congress need to get busy doing things that benefit the American people.

How about fulfilling a Trump promise from 2016 and end the H1-b Visa Program, putting 1.6 million American white collar workers back to work.  Naw, they would never consider doing something to benefit American workers.

The Republicans are well on their way to losing in November, 2026, and I would not be surprised if that is the plan.  Now that Trump cannot run again, they lose next year, the Democommies impeach Trump in the first week of being seated, and goodbye Trump.  Don't think for a moment they would not dance to be rid of Trump.  They have barely supported him all along.

And the Dems need not get their act together to make it happen.  They need just three seats in the house and 1-2 in the Senate.  Not a huge feat by any stretch.  There are three Republican senators that would gladly vote to impeach  Trump.

So, the Republicans better start working in earnest, or they and Trump are out in January, 2027.  You can count on it!

And until China and India stop buying Russian oil, I say boycott everything from China and India.  You all can live without the plastic crap made in China, and there is nothing made in India I would ever want.  Just boycott these nations.  Perhaps then they will wake up.

The end of the Ukraine War, you know, the promise Trump made, he could end it in 24 hours, remember, would be a big accomplishment for Trump and the Republicans if it happened.  Only problem is that Putin is not cooperating.

Everyone needs to write their reps in Congress and tell them to get off their dead posterior and produce results.


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The Dems need 2/3 to remove a President from office and even if they pick up 3 or 4 seats, they are well shy of the 67 needs to convict during impeachment. Trump isn't going anywhere though they would likely impeach again if they held the majority.

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Trump's tariff insanity

What was insane was the status quo.
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What was insane was the status quo.

Not an either or proposition necessarily is it? Trump was certainly elected to fix an insane status quo, whether or not he's doing so, I dunno.

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Not an either or proposition necessarily is it? Trump was certainly elected to fix an insane status quo, whether or not he's doing so, I dunno.
As any horsetrader knows, the numbers you start out with aren't necessarily what you are aiming for. Instead, they are a starting place for negotiations. Trump has been horsetrading to get tariffs on our goods down by threatening high tariffs (and imposing them) on countries that won't negotiate. It is far from over in that department, there's some brinkmanship involved. We'll know by this time next year if it's working. Unfortunately, the legacy media won't give any credit until after the midterms, if then.
It would be nice if Congress got their collective keester in gear, because the sand is running out of that hourglass, fast.
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I did not know it required a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to remove a POTUS.  That is a relief.  The Dems will never have those numbers.

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America's pre-Trump trade policy was suicidal.

The 'insanity' extends beyond tariffs and Trump - the lack of stability, consistency, and predictability of Government policy since 2008 is a deterrent to long-term capital investment in the United States.
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For too long the USA focused on FREE TRADE.  That was pure insanity and a betrayal to the people of the USA.

The only focus should be FAIR TRADE.  President Trump is the only person in recent history that has placed a focus on FAIR TRADE.  The Democommies are utterly clueless, and the American people should be thanking him every day for his effort, for his policies on trade will carry forth for perhaps decades.

However, there is no accounting for total stupidity, and the Dems have an endless wealth of that!  Think about it, Kamala Harris decided not to run for CA governor.  So, what does she have in mind? POTUS?  One can only hope.  But the worst case scenario is that a total idiot like Harris gets elected POTUS.  Can you imagine the damage this fool could invoke upon the people of the USA?  Frightening!!!!!!!!!!

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I did not know it required a 2/3rds majority in the Senate to remove a POTUS.  That is a relief.  The Dems will never have those numbers.

Yes, conviction requires a supermajority. But impeachment is quickly becoming a dead letter because it's overused.

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I believe just the opposite and contrary to typical midterms when party in power loses seats, I think it will be a draw and the Democrats can thank Mamdani for that. He will likely get elected in November, take offcie in January and try to enact his radical policies next spring and summer. It will allow the Republicans to have  a rallying cry  leading up to the 26 midterm elections.. " Do you want this for the rest of the country?"

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Dems are on the wrong side of too many issues.  Biden's Presidency was a disaster.  The 'progressives' are outright communists who want to seize everyone's wealth.

Town Halls give Dem activists to make scenes on camera to use as snippets in their fabricated stories about the unwashed masses turning against Trump.

The inevitably higher utility bills and growth impediments will doom the Green nonsense.

The GOP is in decent shape for the 2026 midterms if Republicans can restrain themselves from pursuing a Federal ban on abortion.

Americans prefer that Big Government stay out of the OBGYN doctor's office.



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Nope.

The electorate has changed. Republicans are energized, and the Democrats are busy whistling past their own graveyard. 
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I think a lot can change over the next year.

Things are in a state of flux.

No predictions one way or the other.

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You sure about that

Cite Left-wing sources... get Left-wing results.

Democrats almost always win special elections because Republicans traditionally don't turn out at the polls on regular work days (other than for national elections). Democrats are often taken there and back home by party and union members who are paid to do so.

We'll see what happens. 
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Cite Left-wing sources... get Left-wing results.



Ah… the old tactic of attacking the sources. Very weak. Most of what  I posted is not opinion. These are elections that have happened. It speaks volumes that you don’t know the difference between commentary and news

The fact is, Democrats have been either performing better from their 2024 performances or even winning elections, and some in areas that voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024 with huge swings in the other direction.  These are not flukes but show a trend. And despite the level of denial on this forum, Donald Trump’s not very popular with the electorate at large. And the Democrats have been doing very well in 2025 despite still being toxic to voters as a party

And my hunch is the denial is going to continue here after next November


The rest of your argument is hogwash, wishful thinking,  and speculation on your part.
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Ah… the old tactic of attacking the sources. Very weak. Most of what  I posted is not opinion. These are elections that have happened. It speaks volumes that you don’t know the difference between commentary and news

The fact is, Democrats have been either performing better from their 2024 performances or even winning elections, and some in areas that voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024 with huge swings in the other direction.  These are not flukes but show a trend. And despite the level of denial on this forum, Donald Trump’s not very popular with the electorate at large. And the Democrats have been doing very well in 2025 despite still being toxic to voters as a party

And my hunch is the denial is going to continue here after next November


The rest of your argument is hogwash, wishful thinking,  and speculation on your part.

I explained why Democrats tend to win special elections. Historically speaking: Republicans simply don't turn out for them, and Democrats are often more motivated. Such elections also tend to be based on personalities and not issues. Those things were true when I wrote my political science thesis about uniquely American voting patterns 45 years ago, and I see little that has changed.   

Iowa is not turning Blue - the GOP has a large registration and party ID advantage in the state (roughly 38% R, 32% I, 28% D as of January 2025), and Pennsylvania has seen a huge change in voter registration from Democrat to Republican. Those are facts. 

As for the Gallup poll, it sampled Adults. Not registered voters. Definitely not likely voters. If you look at the historical numbers on Gallup's own chart, you will note statistically enormous variation (4-5 Sigma S.D. by my quick calculations) from quarter to quarter, which in no way reflects actual voting patterns. GIGO.

Once more - as always - we shall see what happens next year.  happy77

At the macro level and as a Republican, I am not at all worried because Democrats have NOTHING but hatred of Trump and are on the losing side of every issue.
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Ah… the old tactic of attacking the sources. Very weak. Most of what  I posted is not opinion. These are elections that have happened. It speaks volumes that you don’t know the difference between commentary and news

The fact is, Democrats have been either performing better from their 2024 performances or even winning elections, and some in areas that voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024 with huge swings in the other direction.  These are not flukes but show a trend. And despite the level of denial on this forum, Donald Trump’s not very popular with the electorate at large. And the Democrats have been doing very well in 2025 despite still being toxic to voters as a party

And my hunch is the denial is going to continue here after next November


The rest of your argument is hogwash, wishful thinking,  and speculation on your part.

Please. Boilerplating and smokescreening. You operate just like the climate change crowd, throw out 'facts' and pound your chest about 'consensus' and all this other word bullying crap, but when you analyze behind the headlines it's all bunk.

If you want to conjecture about special elections and try to apply them to the general, you are fooling yourself. You're doing the jazz hands again trying to insist there's some undercurrent of psyche and sentiment out there when it can easily be explained by basic math.
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I explained why Democrats tend to win special elections. Historically speaking: Republicans simply don't turn out for them, and Democrats are often more motivated. Such elections also tend to be based on personalities and not issues. Those things were true when I wrote my political science thesis about uniquely American voting patterns 45 years ago, and I see little that has changed.   

Iowa is not turning Blue - the GOP has a large registration and party ID advantage in the state (roughly 38% R, 32% I, 28% D as of January 2025), and Pennsylvania has seen a huge change in voter registration from Democrat to Republican. Those are facts. 

As for the Gallup poll, it sampled Adults. Not registered voters. Definitely not likely voters. If you look at the historical numbers on Gallup's own chart, you will note statistically enormous variation (4-5 Sigma S.D. by my quick calculations) from quarter to quarter, which in no way reflects actual voting patterns. GIGO.

Once more - as always - we shall see what happens next year.  happy77

At the macro level and as a Republican, I am not at all worried because Democrats have NOTHING but hatred of Trump and are on the losing side of every issue.


There is still a trend that seems to be taking shape


And no, Democrats don’t always win special off year elections. Scott Brown won the Massachusetts Senate seat before the 2010 midterm election. And the GOP won governorships in New Jersey and Virginia in 2009

And the GOP was also unpopular with voters in 2009

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/06/a-republican-comeback-024128


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There is still a trend that seems to be taking shape


And no, Democrats don’t always win special off year elections. Scott Brown won the Massachusetts Senate seat before the 2010 midterm election. And the GOP won governorships in New Jersey and Virginia in 2009

And the GOP was also unpopular with voters in 2009

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/06/a-republican-comeback-024128

No there's not a trend taking shape, only if you apply the most superficial analysis. More jazz hands.

And politically, 2009 and '10 are in political terms very ancient history and do not apply today at all.
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Please. Boilerplating and smokescreening. You operate just like the climate change crowd, throw out 'facts' and pound your chest about 'consensus' and all this other word bullying crap, but when you analyze behind the headlines it's all bunk.

If you want to conjecture about special elections and try to apply them to the general, you are fooling yourself. You're doing the jazz hands again trying to insist there's some undercurrent of psyche and sentiment out there when it can easily be explained by basic math.

Ah… another weak tactic. Denial and personal attacks along with strawmen

I point out actual election results. Your response is to attack me personally

The fact is, democrats have been, by and large, on a winning streak since Trump has been elected despite the party at large changing nothing from their 2024 loss.

You’re entitled to deny all you want. But the reality doesn’t go away.

I know it’s hard to accept that the opposition can actually win elections. And if they do, why, that means something nefarious took place


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No there's not a trend taking shape, only if you apply the most superficial analysis. More jazz hands.

And politically, 2009 and '10 are in political terms very ancient history and do not apply today at all.

But I disputed the claim that democrats always win off year elections

Despite your denial, for at least the time being, a trend is taking shape
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Ah… another weak tactic. Denial and personal attacks along with strawmen

I point out actual election results. Your response is to attack me personally

The fact is, democrats have been, by and large, on a winning streak since Trump has been elected despite the party at large changing nothing from their 2024 loss.

You’re entitled to deny all you want. But the reality doesn’t go away.

I know it’s hard to accept that the opposition can actually win elections. And if they do, why, that means something nefarious took place

You keep trying to flip it back around with desperate projection, but all you are doing is projecting with smoke and mirrors.

There's no 'reality' just you basing your argument on extrapolating some kind of trend based on some sort of vague sentiment that only you can see.

You have it exactly backwards. The Rats right now can only have the power to heavily game small special elections while spending an outsized amount of money and effort to win them. That's not electoral strength, it's major weakness.

Then you are trying to take that weakness and extrapolate that into national trends for the general in a completely flawed methodology based on left wing sources.

It's pretty much all 'I want to believe' at this point for you.
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There is still a trend that seems to be taking shape


And no, Democrats don’t always win special off year elections. Scott Brown won the Massachusetts Senate seat before the 2010 midterm election. And the GOP won governorships in New Jersey and Virginia in 2009

And the GOP was also unpopular with voters in 2009

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/06/a-republican-comeback-024128

Two of those elections are excellent examples of exceptions that prove the rule. Specifically, they were "personality" elections.

Scott Brown won because Martha Coakley was an insufferable, gaffe-prone idiot who ran one of the worst campaigns in history (trust me: I was there), in spite of being a Democrat in a state where Republicans are rare, but Independents are not.  In Virginia in 2009, Bob McDonald was well-known and personally popular, while his opponent (Creigh Deeds) was a little-known state senator in a state that was still Red. Today, I think he would have won, as 4 populous counties in Northern VA have basically become extensions of Washington, D.C. in the intervening years.

The election in New Jersey was not an off-year election, but a regular one in which the incumbent (Corzine) had become unpopular and had his vote reduced by the presence of a 3rd party, allowing Christie to squeak by.   
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You keep trying to flip it back around with desperate projection, but all you are doing is projecting with smoke and mirrors.

There's no 'reality' just you basing your argument on extrapolating some kind of trend based on some sort of vague sentiment that only you can see.

You have it exactly backwards. The Rats right now can only have the power to heavily game small special elections while spending an outsized amount of money and effort to win them. That's not electoral strength, it's major weakness.

Then you are trying to take that weakness and extrapolate that into national trends for the general in a completely flawed methodology based on left wing sources.

It's pretty much all 'I want to believe' at this point for you.

Naw….I provide verifiable facts. That upset you. And the idea that the opposition only wins through cheating is a belief shared by both sides of the political spectrum

This same level of denial here also took place in 2017 before the 2018 midterms. Many could not accept that Trump was unpopular with the electorate.

The same argument that all Democrats have to run on is hating Trump was made then. And they were right.

Democrats took over 40 seats in the HOR and seven governorships in the 2018 midterms despite having nothing to run on except anti Trump

I simply pointed out, with election results data, that the idea that democrats are simply whistling past the graveyard is not true. Provided election results data that disputes that and look at the reaction.

Begala isn’t just pulling a prediction out of his posterior. He has history to back him

Reality is tough to accept. But, I’ve proven my case with data, you provided opinions, and that’s all I can do so have a good day tipping hat!!
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Naw….I provide verifiable facts. That upset you. And the idea that the opposition only wins through cheating is a belief shared by both sides of the political spectrum

This same level of denial here also took place in 2017 before the 2018 midterms. Many could not accept that Trump was unpopular with the electorate.

The same argument that all Democrats have to run on is hating Trump was made then. And they were right.

Democrats took over 40 seats in the HOR and seven governorships in the 2018 midterms despite having nothing to run on except anti Trump

Wow…lol. I simply pointed out, with election results data, that the idea that democrats are simply whistling past the graveyard is not true. Provided election results data that disputes that and look at the reaction.


Reality is tough to accept. But, I’ve proven my case with data, you provided opinions, and that’s all I can do so have a good day tipping hat!!

Again, you keep trying to project psychology into this, creating this mirage that I'm upset by your 'facts' that are simply boilerplate assertions with no analysis behind them.

I've given you that analysis, and you reject it with jazz hands and denial.

I get that you want to believe very badly, but you still haven't made your case.
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Despite the off the charts level of denial, these 2025 off year elections have been good for the democrats

Historically, the party in the WH  loses seats in the HOR in midterm elections. More so if people are unhappy with the direction of the country. The only exception in my lifetime that I can recall was the 2002 midterm. But George W. Bush was still extremely popular then

But if I were to make a comparison, this looks similar to the 2008-2010 era

1) you have angry constituents showing up at town halls to give their elected representatives an ear  full. In 2009, it was the Democrats who faced the wrath of their constituents. In 2025, it’s the Republicans. And both were dismissed by the political parties. In 2009, the Democrats claim that these people showing up to the town halls were paid protesters by the Koch brothers. In 2025, the Republicans are claiming these are paid protesters paid by George Soros.

2) large political protests movements . In 2009, it was the TEA Party. In 2025, it’s #NoKings. Again, both movements dismissed by the opposition as astroturfing.

3) unpopular legislation. In 2009, it was Obama care. In 2025, its the BBB

4) major political setback by one party after a presidential loss. In 2009, the Republicans were unpopular, but made some special election gains in 2009. In 2025, it’s the Democratic party that’s unpopular but has made some gains in the 2025 special elections.

5)economic anxiety. In 2009, people were still feeling anxious about the economy, and the Democrats had the White House. In 2025, people are anxious about the economy and a republican is in the White House.

Yet, despite the stumbles that the Republican Party faced after the 2008 election, they took over 60 seats in the HOR, six or seven governorships, and seven Senate seats in the 2010 midterms

I remember that election very well. I worked to get Scott Walker elected governor of Wisconsin that year


Begala may be overshooting or under shooting here.  But the Republicans have a very small majority in both the House and the Senate

I know it’s hard for people to accept that candidates they support or political parties that they support can’t possibly lose elections

But they can  and do. And it isn’t because they were cheated
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Despite the off the charts level of denial, these 2025?off year elections have been good for the democrats

Historically, the party in the WH. loses seats in the HOR in midterm elections. More so if people are unhappy with the direction of the country. The only exception in my lifetime that I can recall was the 2002 midterm. But George W. Bush was still extremely popular then

But if I were to make a comparison, this looks similar to the 2008-2010 era

1) you have angry constituents, showing up at town halls to give their elected representatives in your full. In 2009, it was the Democrats. In 2025, it’s the Republicans. And both were dismissed by the political parties. In 2009, the Democrats claim that these people showing up to the town halls were paid protesters by the Koch brothers. In 2025, the Republicans are claiming these are paid protesters paid by George Soros.

2) large political protests. In 2009, it was the TEA Party. In 2025, it’s #NoKings. Again, both movements dismissed by the opposition as astroturfing.

3) unpopular legislation. In 2009, it was Obama care. In 2025, its the BBB

4) major political setback by one party. In 2009, the Republicans were unpopular, but made some special election gains in 2009. In 2025, it’s the Democratic party that’s unpopular but has made some gains in the 2025 special elections.

5)economic anxiety. In 2009, people were still feeling anxious about the economy, and the Democrats had the White House. In 2025, people are anxious about the economy and a republican is in the White House.

Yep, despite the stumbles that the Republican Party faced after the 2008 election, they took over 60 seats in the HOR, six or seven governorships, and seven Senate seats

I remember that election very well. I worked to get Scott Walker elected governor of Wisconsin that year


Begala may be overshooting or under shooting here.  But the Republicans have a very small majority in both the House and the Senate

You keep going back 15+ years to use as 'facts' to support your case. That stuff is ancient political history, we are in a different time.

One of which is the Rat ability to spend huge amounts of money to create astroturf. The town halls, the special elections, the protests, these are not organic events reflecting sentiments. They are bought and paid for in the attempt to create the illusion of unrest and shifting of sentiment and psychology.

You keep taking these superficial 'facts' and try to connect the dots with conjecture and speculation then attempt to present it as solid evidence of a national trend, when everything you've presented is solid evidence of only one thing - Rat manipulation, which is why your theory is completely flawed.

That's the difference between 'facts' and real analysis. Water is wet, the sun is bright, gravity makes things fall, the wind blows - all those things are facts, but they are peripheral to NASCAR racing all things equal.

Again, you simply haven't made the case that there is a trend here. You may have 'facts' but your dots don't connect.
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The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) is an official caucus of the House of Representatives with its own staff, paid for by our tax dollars.

To give you an idea of their politics, the Deputy Chairwoman of the CPC is none other than Ilhan Omar.



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That state Senate seat in Georgia may possibly flip from red to blue if the polls are accurate. And I forgot about the incumbent republican mayor in Omaha, Nebraska that was defeated by a Democrat challenger this year.

So  make no mistake, there is a trend.

And for those who are still in denial, name one district this year that voted for Kamala Harris in 2024  that flipped  from blue to red

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And for those who are still in denial, name one district this year that voted for Kamala Harris in 2024  that flipped  from blue to red

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This thread sure got quiet all of a sudden