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« Reply #2250 on: December 10, 2025, 11:33:33 pm »
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« Reply #2251 on: December 10, 2025, 11:38:49 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2252 on: December 10, 2025, 11:40:43 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2254 on: December 10, 2025, 11:48:02 pm »
«They don't give a f*** who to reset». How they are executed in the Russian army

Executions are becoming more widespread and torture — sophisticated

Ivan Zhadayev, Olesya Gerasimenko, Rina Richter, Ivan Smurov  |  28 October 2025


The Russian military has been talking about extrajudicial killings since the first year of the invasion of Ukraine. Then soldier they shot me on the spot for refusing to storm or drinking in the trenches. By 2025, executions and torture in the army had become more sophisticated, and personal enmity between the military and commanders and refusal to pay quitrents to their superiors increasingly lead to them.

The names and call signs of some characters in the text have been changed for security reasons

«The kid from my platoon was simply beaten to death with his head on the floor. Because after the combat mission he drank vodka. That is, we sat on the front line for a month without communication, without food, we have almost all 200 or 300. We drank water from puddles, damn it, slept in water and shit. And so we went out on vacation, all the grown men, well, drank a little, and they began to scold us, like some puppies. Well, the boy got stuck».

Then, as a military man with the call sign «Kurgan» tells «Vyorstke», the commanders «Kemer» and «Dudka» began to kick his colleague «and banged his head on the concrete slab». Then they threw me into a hole. «He was already dying there, something was leaking from his head, foam from his mouth, convulsions. „Shark“ then told him to shoot», — says «Kurgan».

«Shark» — this is 34-year-old resident of the Orenburg region Ilkhom Peter. He commands the attack aircraft of the 80th Tank Regiment of the 90th ‑Panzer Division of the group «Center». «Kemer» —this is 34-year-old Dmitry Kemerov, he commands the assault company «B». «Dudka» —this is 39-year-old deputy company commander Mikhail Dudukov.  .  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2255 on: December 11, 2025, 12:06:04 pm »
With regards to the above, brutality is a way of life and a point of pride in Russia.

And Russia must be destroyed.
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« Reply #2256 on: December 11, 2025, 12:44:20 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2257 on: December 11, 2025, 07:44:33 pm »
Has Trump considered asking Russia to end its war and get their troops the hell out of Ukraine?  The ONLY obstacle to peace here is Russia.


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White House spokesperson:

The President is extremely frustrated with both sides of this war, and he is sick of meetings just for the sake of meeting.

He doesn't want any more talk, he wants action, he wants this war to come to an end, and the administration has spent more than 30 hours, just in the past couple of weeks, meeting with the Russians and the Ukrainians and the Europeans and speaking with them as well. So we'll see about the meetings this weekend, and stay tuned.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2258 on: December 11, 2025, 07:45:13 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2259 on: December 11, 2025, 07:48:08 pm »
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Nobel Peace Prize laureate and human rights defender Oleksandra Matviichuk
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"We have 1,6 million children under Russian occupation. Their identities are being erased. They are militarized starting from kindergarten. Their parents are forced to send their children to camps where they wear military uniforms, line up, live in barracks, and are taught how to use weapons.

Russia is preparing the new generation of Putin's soldiers from these 1,6 million Ukrainian children because at the age of 14, they will receive the Russian passport. At the age of 18, they will be forcibly recruited to the Russian army, which means that they will go to fight and to die in any country that Russia sends them to fight and to die.

Because Russia is an empire, and an empire has a center but has no borders. An empire always tries to expand. And that is why when we speak about deported children, children under Russian occupation, it's not just a human rights problem. It's a security problem."


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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2260 on: December 11, 2025, 07:49:26 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2261 on: December 11, 2025, 07:54:58 pm »
Ukraine hits Russian chemical giant 700 km from border next to Estonia

13:04 , 11 December 2025




A major fire broke out at one of Russia’s largest chemical plants after a Ukrainian drone strike overnight on 11 December, according to Militarnyi. The attack targeted the Akron facility in Veliky Novgorod, a key manufacturer of ammonia and nitrate compounds, located nearly 700 kilometers from Ukraine and only 200 kilometers from the Estonian border.

As Russia's invasion continues, Ukraine’s Defense Forces have been regularly carrying out drone and missile strikes on Russian military and industrial infrastructure, particularly on facilities involved in supporting the country’s war effort.

The drone strike took place in the early hours of 11 December. The Ukrainian Telegram channel Exilenova+ reported that at least five drones hit the facility, setting off explosions and a fire at the plant. The Akron site is among Russia’s largest chemical enterprises and produces mineral fertilizers, ammonia, nitric acid, and ammonium nitrate.  .  .  .

https://uazmi.com/news/post/6988cfd248af93106248e3da2a1d5a66



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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2262 on: December 11, 2025, 08:03:17 pm »
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I have repeatedly emphasized the danger of further Russian occupation of Ukraine, because it would mean that Russia, preparing for a future war in Europe, would gain not only Ukraine’s infrastructure, but also additional mobilization potential - Ukrainians who know how to fight.

Tens of thousands of Ukrainians from territories occupied by Russia have been mobilized and forced by the Russian occupation authorities to fight against their own country - Ukraine.

Since the beginning of Russia’s full-scale invasion, 46,327 Ukrainian citizens rom temporarily occupied territories have been mobilized into the Russian army. The overwhelming majority of them are residents of Crimea.

Here is an example - the story of 26-year-old Ukrainian Pavlo Pshenychnyi:

He served in the Anti-Terrorist Operation Zone (ATO), where he sustained a severe injury in 2019. After treatment, Pavlo settled in the village of Kalanchak, on the left bank of Kherson region. On 24 February 2022, the village was occupied by Russian forces.

Pavlo ended up in the Russian army after being told he was facing a 12-year prison sentence. He wanted to serve the sentence, but Russians told him that his "prison" would be the army - and according to Pavlo, he had no other choice.

In the summer of 2025, he was captured by Ukrainian Forces.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2263 on: December 11, 2025, 08:05:36 pm »
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OTD in 1951 3rd wave of Operation Osen deportations began. 20,000 Lithuanians were forcibly deported to Siberia as USSR continued to "liberate them from fascism" 6 years after WW2 ended.

Imagine mass deportations happening today...



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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2264 on: December 11, 2025, 08:08:36 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2265 on: December 11, 2025, 08:32:12 pm »
The chemical plant in Veliky Novgorod that was hit produces chemicals used in making explosives and chemical used as fertilizer in agriculture. Hopefully some really important part of the facility were hit, but the facility is huge. There may not be any new pictures/video in this, but the commentary is good:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrm4x6V7XWs
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« Reply #2266 on: December 11, 2025, 08:43:44 pm »
An interesting development:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9XRx-SOb68

As narrator Suchomimus mentioned, this is the first time Ukraine has hit oil production at the wells. Ukraine's recent campaign against refineries has featured quite a few instances where a particular key structure was hit, stopping facilities' production ability. My speculation is that in the past 6-12 months, Ukraine has improved the accuracy of their drones, and now oil platforms like this one in the Caspian Sea can be hit it vital places. As Suchomimus also mentioned, Ukraine does not border the Caspian Sea and thus has no forces there ... other than drones paying a one-way visit.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2267 on: December 11, 2025, 11:50:16 pm »
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« Reply #2268 on: December 11, 2025, 11:52:15 pm »
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‼️👀 The coming year will be the most difficult for the Russian economy since the war began, — The Economist.

Oil and gas revenues have fallen by 22%, the momentum from military spending is fading, and the budget deficit is approaching 3% of GDP.

Russia receives almost no foreign investment and has no access to international credit.

Industry and military production have reached a high level, and the government is increasingly squeezing money from the Russian population to finance the war.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2269 on: December 11, 2025, 11:55:25 pm »
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🥴I order the continuation of combat operations in Ukraine to achieve our goals, — Putin

Additionally, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Gerasimov reported to Putin that the offensive of Russian troops will be expanded in the Kharkiv and Sumy regions.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2270 on: December 12, 2025, 12:04:50 am »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2271 on: December 12, 2025, 12:09:41 am »
Entire Russian column destroyed entering Pokrovsk

Drone video captures wrecked vehicles after Kyiv’s troops halt large mechanised assault in embattled Donetsk city

Kieran Kelly  |  11 December 2025  |  1:34pm GMT


An entire Russian column has been destroyed during a Ukrainian counter-attack in Pokrovsk.

Scores of military vehicles were left burning along a road in the eastern city, newly published footage shows.

A Ukrainian drone can be seen sweeping over the wreckage, while earlier video appeared to show Russian troops and vehicles being struck with cluster munitions.

The battle for the strategic logistics hub in Donetsk has raged for more than a year. Vladimir Putin recently claimed Pokrovsk had fallen, but Ukrainian officials said he made the announcement during peace talks to persuade Donald Trump that a Russian victory was inevitable.

Kyiv insists its forces still hold positions in the northern part of the city, once home to 60,000 people before the full-scale invasion in February 2022.  .  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/12/11/entire-russian-column-destroyed-entering-pokrovsk/
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2272 on: December 12, 2025, 07:26:02 am »
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🥴I order the continuation of combat operations in Ukraine to achieve our goals, Putin

Additionally, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Gerasimov reported to Putin that the offensive of Russian troops will be expanded in the Kharkiv and Sumy regions.

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Poor Putin, being forced to continue fighting against the Nazis. Its no wonder 47 is applying huge pressure on Zelensky to stop his wanton, unwarranted aggression! This war must stop at any cost, even if it means the entire population of Ukraine is forcibly marched to Russia's luxury camps in Siberia! Those that survive the march that is.

This will solve the first part of the "root causes" plaguing Russia. Under the glorious leadership of V. V. Putin, Russia will fight on until the "root causes" are totally eliminated. This will also afford 47 another opportunity to get still another Noble prize when he negotiates ( from his new hotel and golf course complex in Crimea ), the elimination of the European "root causes".

There is a persistent rumor that Trump, Kershner & Witkoff real estate company will be building still another hotel/residence/golf complex close by Trump's dear friend Vlad Vladimir's summer palace.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2273 on: December 12, 2025, 08:28:39 am »
Here’s a question:  is Trump selling out Ukraine to Russia in exchange for Russia agreeing not to object too strenuously when Trump orders US troops into Caracas?
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2274 on: December 12, 2025, 09:05:11 am »
Here’s a question:  is Trump selling out Ukraine to Russia in exchange for Russia agreeing not to object too strenuously when Trump orders US troops into Caracas?

No - Russia doesn't give 2 feces about Venezuela

Remember all the recent talk about rare-earth minerals being so important?

Russia probably offered Trump (thru Witkoff) some kind of sweetheart deal whereby the US can get supplied with Russia's rare-earths, as soon as the war ends on Russian terms

(Plus, Russia also probably offered great private real-estate deals to Witkoff and Trump's family, after the war ends)

Thus, Trump's incentive to get Ukraine to surrender NOW

(I got no hard proof of this, but that's my guess ...)
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2275 on: December 12, 2025, 09:12:08 am »
I have to wonder if all those pieces and parts of dead Russians strewn across the battlefield are even counted in these reports. If not, the number of Russian dead could be significantly higher ...


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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2276 on: December 12, 2025, 09:25:47 am »
No - Russia doesn't give 2 feces about Venezuela

Remember all the recent talk about rare-earth minerals being so important?

Russia probably offered Trump (thru Witkoff) some kind of sweetheart deal whereby the US can get supplied with Russia's rare-earths, as soon as the war ends on Russian terms

(Plus, Russia also probably offered great private real-estate deals to Witkoff and Trump's family, after the war ends)

Thus, Trump's incentive to get Ukraine to surrender NOW

(I got no hard proof of this, but that's my guess ...)

Rare earths are found all over the world - its the processing that is the problem, not the mining. China has the rare earth processing market cornered.

What Trump and his selected, unelected, unqualified team of Witkoff & Kersher will all get is great accesses to the Russian real estate market around the warm waters of the Black Sea, where no doubt Trump hotels, resorts and golf courses will be built for the rich and famous.

The team only has to find a way - a forced way, to get Zelenski removed and the county to surrender to Russia on Russian terms. Every day, 47 applies more and more pressure to Ukraine to stop fighting, and none at all on Russia. The whole thing stinks so bad, it smells up the entire USA.

The way 47 has approached this war, since he & his pet pit bull humiliated Zelenski on live TV, has been one huge love fest with a bloody dictator so one has to ask why? There has to be something more in it for 47 than just an ego-driven, ill-gotten peace prize.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2277 on: December 12, 2025, 09:29:22 am »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #2278 on: December 12, 2025, 01:02:35 pm »
No - Russia doesn't give 2 feces about Venezuela

Remember all the recent talk about rare-earth minerals being so important?

Russia probably offered Trump (thru Witkoff) some kind of sweetheart deal whereby the US can get supplied with Russia's rare-earths, as soon as the war ends on Russian terms

(Plus, Russia also probably offered great private real-estate deals to Witkoff and Trump's family, after the war ends)

Thus, Trump's incentive to get Ukraine to surrender NOW

(I got no hard proof of this, but that's my guess ...)

They may not care about Venezuela intrinsically, but they could use a U.S. invasion as a basis for causing a lot of trouble with other countries.  So they may have secretly agreed to not cause problems, and to lean on other countries not to cause problems if the U.S. invades Venezuela. 

This in addition to the real estate deals.
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« Reply #2279 on: December 12, 2025, 01:55:41 pm »

This in addition to the real estate deals.

With the [ unelected, unqualified ] full team  of Witkoff, Kershner & Fink operating, it is always important to include real estate deals in any move that 47 makes because you can bet your bottom dollar there is going to be a lot of them. Hidden of course, but a little digging after 47 leaves office should turn up most of them.
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« Reply #2280 on: December 12, 2025, 04:39:36 pm »
Trump's demeanor toward Putin and Russia is completely irrational.  I would hope he is not conducting himself for personal gain while POTUS with Putin.

Putin in fact is the modern day Adolph Hitler, and he should be treated with the same scorn as Hitler was post September 1, 1939.

Putin is abusing whatever relationship he has with Trump, and Trump will be faced with providing Ukraine with every weapon we have in our arsenal short of nuclear weapons.  I fully expect the US to provide Tomahawk cruise missiles in 2026.  Putin will not end this war.  His telling Trump he is interested in peace is a total lie.  The only way this war ends will be if Putin dies naturally or the Russian people drag him through the streets of Moscow like Kadayfi.  And they will only do that if they are starving.

That is why the way to end this war swiftly is to destroy the steam plants in the metro Moscow area, and destroy the subway and major roads and railroad lines feeding Moscow.  Freeze and starve the folks of Moscow, and they will go hunting Putin.  They are finally getting to a point of losing their sons in this pointless war.  They now know Putin has lied to them. 

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« Reply #2281 on: December 12, 2025, 07:03:21 pm »
With the [ unelected, unqualified ] full team  of Witkoff, Kershner & Fink operating, it is always important to include real estate deals in any move that 47 makes because you can bet your bottom dollar there is going to be a lot of them. Hidden of course, but a little digging after 47 leaves office should turn up most of them.

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« Reply #2282 on: December 12, 2025, 09:09:57 pm »
It's a leverage pi$$ing contest between Trump and Putin.

Zalinsky needs to play ball.  Compliment the Orange One.  Give Trump a solid gold bust of himself.  Throw in some real esate, golf courses, mineral royalties.

Zalinsky needs to realize the Trump is a mobster who wants to "partner" with Ukraine to make Trump's Grift Great Again.

Expecting Trump to be rational is irrational.  Tangerine Mussolini is a malignant narcissistic psychopathic tweaker.   

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« Reply #2283 on: December 12, 2025, 09:52:38 pm »
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[Q]: Can you tell us how this free economic zone would work in the Donbas, in land that the Russians took by force?

President Trump: I don't want to do that now. It's a very complex situation, but it would work. And a lot of people want to see it work.

https://x.com/i/status/1999618929983910077

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« Reply #2284 on: December 13, 2025, 07:46:27 am »
It's a leverage pi$$ing contest between Trump and Putin.

Zalinsky needs to play ball.  Compliment the Orange One.  Give Trump a solid gold bust of himself.  Throw in some real esate, golf courses, mineral royalties.

Zalinsky needs to realize the Trump is a mobster who wants to "partner" with Ukraine to make Trump's Grift Great Again.

Expecting Trump to be rational is irrational.  Tangerine Mussolini is a malignant narcissistic psychopathic tweaker.   

Zalinksy is bar owner with two competing gangsters looking to take a piece, at first, then take the whole thing.

That's a great description of what's going on here.

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« Reply #2285 on: December 13, 2025, 04:58:30 pm »
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« Reply #2286 on: December 13, 2025, 05:16:15 pm »
Trump's demeanor toward Putin and Russia is completely irrational.  I would hope he is not conducting himself for personal gain while POTUS with Putin.

Putin in fact is the modern day Adolph Hitler, and he should be treated with the same scorn as Hitler was post September 1, 1939.

Trump will be faced with providing Ukraine with every weapon we have in our arsenal short of nuclear weapons.  I fully expect the US to provide Tomahawk cruise missiles in 2026.


Expect Trump to not supply any weapons at all, much less Tomahawks, to Ukraine, because that would offend his best friend, Putin, and put him off any real estate deals, as well as the Nobel he coverts. He's more likely to wash his hands and move on, leaving Ukraine and Europe alone to deal with Russia. That move would be almost as bad as forcing Ukraine to surrender to Russia, but that seems to be 47's preferred outcome.

Either way, 47 will set the stage for WWIII with either a forced surrender or a complete pullout.
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« Reply #2287 on: December 13, 2025, 05:18:47 pm »
It's a leverage pi$$ing contest between Trump and Putin.

Zalinsky needs to play ball.  Compliment the Orange One.  Give Trump a solid gold bust of himself.  Throw in some real esate, golf courses, mineral royalties.

Zalinsky needs to realize the Trump is a mobster who wants to "partner" with Ukraine to make Trump's Grift Great Again.

Expecting Trump to be rational is irrational.  Tangerine Mussolini is a malignant narcissistic psychopathic tweaker.   

Zalinksy is bar owner with two competing gangsters looking to take a piece, at first, then take the whole thing.

I notice yo did not include Putin in your descriptions - is there a reason? Or do you like Putin and want to cozy up to him?
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« Reply #2288 on: December 13, 2025, 05:21:59 pm »
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[Q]: Can you tell us how this free economic zone would work in the Donbas, in land that the Russians took by force?

President Trump: I don't want to do that now. It's a very complex situation, but it would work. And a lot of people want to see it work.

https://x.com/i/status/1999618929983910077

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« Reply #2289 on: Today at 07:47:51 am »
I notice yo did not include Putin in your descriptions - is there a reason? Or do you like Putin and want to cozy up to him?

Nah, I think he's just being sarcastic.  And his description of Putin and Trump being two gangsters wanting a piece of the action is accurate.
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US Congress Bans Pentagon from Arbitrarily Redirecting Weapons Intended for Ukraine to Other Needs

Vladyslav Khomenko  |  December 13, 2025  |  17:53


The US Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2026 (NDAA-2026), in which lawmakers prohibited the Pentagon from unauthorizedly diverting weapons made for Ukraine. In the event of an emergency need for such weapons, compensation is provided.

This was reported by Militarnyi after analyzing the adopted law.

The total amount of the NDAA-2026 is about $900 billion, making it one of the largest defense budgets in US history.

The law provides for the continuation of the Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) and the allocation of $400 million in 2026. Another $400 million is provided for 2027. Initially, the Senate proposed $500 million, and the House of Representatives – $300 million. As a result of the negotiations, the parties came to the compromise at the level of $400 million.

These funds are not focused on direct deliveries from US warehouses, but to the production of new weapons by the US industry. It also includes training, maintenance, and logistics support.  .  .  .

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/us-congress-bans-pentagon-from-arbitrarily-redirecting-weapons-intended-for-ukraine-to-other-needs/



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« Reply #2293 on: Today at 11:36:11 am »
Ok, time for some honest talk about Russia's invasion. In just a few months, it will have been 4 years already.

Look at this typical map ...



See how far Russia has gotten from their borders? 200 km max. That's 120 miles, after 4 years!!

That works out to:

120 miles / 45 months = 2.7 miles per month, at a cost of 24,000 Russian casualties (6000 dead) every month.

Honestly, that's pathetic for a country that claims to be a "superpower", against an opponent 1/15th Russia's size, that has no navy, no air force, no satellites, and no nukes!

* By contrast, in 1940, the Germans were able to go 500 miles from their border, thru France, to the Atlantic Ocean in just 2 weeks, with only 17,000 troops killed.

But then, that's the difference between a competent military with good leadership, and a paper-tiger military run by corrupt crooks, isn't it?
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Polish FM told Orbán he "deserves his Order of Lenin" after claiming EU Ukraine loan would declare war on Russia, with Hungary's Szijjártó accusing Poland of wanting Russia-Europe war and Sikorski replying Hungary will side with Russia anyway.



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Unmanned systems commander Magyar confirms that Ukrainian drones struck key targets, including the Afipsky oil refinery (Krasnodar Krai) and the Saratov oil refinery (Rosneft), as well as multiple military facilities and airfields on occupied Ukrainian territory.



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