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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1900 on: November 14, 2025, 11:31:15 am »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1901 on: November 14, 2025, 02:47:12 pm »
WRT the Estonian airspace interception story, the MiG-31 sounds like it's the ultimate of a 1950-1960s mission-concept, ground-controlled interceptor, whose target is fleets of bombers coming in at high altitude for a nuclear attack. An interceptor was/is very fast, climbs fast, and can operate at very high altitude. BUT maneuverability is sacrificed and its range of weapons tailored to its interception role.

That bomber strategy was largely abandoned by the US in the 1970s (maybe earlier, given the abandonment of the B-70 program), and the USAF's last interceptor was the F-106. The USAF went largely multirole as it evolved the F-4 Phantom. The USN did similarly, though the F-14 Tomcat started out with interceptor being one of its primary missions (the Phoenix missile was more suited to bomber targets rather than maneuvering fighters).
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1902 on: November 14, 2025, 03:48:20 pm »
WRT the Estonian airspace interception story, the MiG-31 sounds like it's the ultimate of a 1950-1960s mission-concept, ground-controlled interceptor, whose target is fleets of bombers coming in at high altitude for a nuclear attack. An interceptor was/is very fast, climbs fast, and can operate at very high altitude. BUT maneuverability is sacrificed and its range of weapons tailored to its interception role.

That bomber strategy was largely abandoned by the US in the 1970s (maybe earlier, given the abandonment of the B-70 program), and the USAF's last interceptor was the F-106. The USAF went largely multirole as it evolved the F-4 Phantom. The USN did similarly, though the F-14 Tomcat started out with interceptor being one of its primary missions (the Phoenix missile was more suited to bomber targets rather than maneuvering fighters).

The MiG-31 was originlly Russia's response to the SR-71 Blackbird.
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« Reply #1903 on: November 14, 2025, 04:40:39 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1904 on: November 14, 2025, 08:56:33 pm »
The MiG-31 was originlly Russia's response to the SR-71 Blackbird.

It was the MiG-25 (1960s tech) actually.  The MiG-31 (1970s tech) is a two-seat version with more advanced avionics and engines.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1905 on: November 15, 2025, 10:18:54 am »
It was the MiG-25 (1960s tech) actually.  The MiG-31 (1970s tech) is a two-seat version with more advanced avionics and engines.

The Soviets were also worried about the USAF's B-70 project. I remember reading about what was learned when Viktor Belenko defected with a MiG-25. Among other things, the avionics still used vacuum tubes (not just for the output of the radar and radio transmitters), and flying at full speed tended to damage the engines severely.
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« Reply #1906 on: November 15, 2025, 04:52:54 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1908 on: November 15, 2025, 05:10:10 pm »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, November 14, 2025

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The Russian military command appears to be prioritizing the seizure of Pokrovsk over efforts to close the wider Ukrainian pocket in the Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad area. Russian advances in and around Pokrovsk over the last several days suggest that Russian forces in Pokrovsk are prioritizing the seizure of the settlement itself. They do not appear to be focused on supporting efforts by the 51st Combined Arms Army (CAA, formerly the 1st Donetsk People's Republic Army Corps [DNR AC], Southern Military District [SMD]) to close the pocket from the north and northeast with a complementary attack from the south at this time.

Russian forces may be prioritizing the seizure of Pokrovsk for a number of reasons. Russian leadership may seek to exploit the informational effects that the town's seizure will likely generate, or may hope that the seizure of Pokrovsk will facilitate a subsequent effort to close the pocket. Ukrainian counterattacks on the northern shoulder of the pocket and a continued Ukrainian presence within Pokrovsk are complicating Russian advances and Russia's ability to close the pocket, but that fact should not be enough in itself to cause the Russian command to be distracted from the effort from the south. The 51st CAA has also been struggling to advance from the northeast, moving more slowly than the 2nd CAA (Central Military District [CMD]) is moving within Pokrovsk and on the western flank of the pocket.

The 51st CAA’s slower tempo could also be contributing to Russia's apparent and possibly temporary prioritization of the seizure of Pokrovsk. The Russian military command is notably not pursuing the standard measures one would expect in such a battlefield configuration, namely focusing forces and means on completing the encirclement, which would normally be the fastest and least costly way to seize the entire area. The Russian military command can change its focus at any time, however.


Russian forces continue to advance within the pocket in the Pokrovsk direction. Geolocated footage published on November 13 and 14 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced in northern and eastern Pokrovsk and in southern Myrnohrad.

Additional geolocated footage published on November 14 indicates that Russian forces recently conducted infiltration operations in southeastern Pokrovsk.

Pokrovsk itself remains contested, however, and Ukrainian forces continue to hold positions within the settlement. Geolocated footage published on November 14 indicates that Ukrainian forces maintain positions or recently advanced in northern Pokrovsk, contrary to Russian claims of Russian advances.

Geolocated footage published on November 14 indicates that both Ukrainian and Russian forces hold positions in northern Pokrovsk.

Russian milbloggers acknowledged that Russian forces do not control all of the town and that there is fighting ongoing in northern and eastern Pokrovsk.


Ukrainian forces continue efforts to prevent Russian advances on the northern shoulder of the pocket. Additional geolocated footage published on November 14 indicates that Russian forces seized Novotoretske and advanced in central Boikivka (both northeast of Pokrovsk).

Ukraine's Special Operations Forces (SSO) reported on November 14 that Ukrainian forces conducted a drone strike against a concentration of Russian servicemembers of the 1st Slovyansk Motorized Rifle Brigade and 9th Motorized Rifle Brigade (both of the 51st CAA) in Zatyshok (northeast of Pokrovsk), where they had recently accumulated in a building during adverse weather conditions.

The Ukrainian Eastern Group of Forces reported on November 14 that the Ukrainian Air Force struck a Russian transport communications facility and a concentration of Russian forces near Shevchenko (in the Russian near rear south of Pokrovsk) with a GBU-62 Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range (JDAM-ER) guided bomb.

Russian milbloggers also claimed that Ukrainian forces continue to counterattack near Rodynske.


Russia continues to rely on North Korea for manpower to offset Russia's labor and military personnel shortages. Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) on November 14 reported Russian plans for roughly 12,000 North Korean workers to join the Alabuga Special Economic Zone (ASEZ) in the Republic of Tatarstan by the end of 2025 to work at Russia's factory producing Shahed-type drones.

The GUR reported that the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) met with local government officials and representatives of the North Korean company Jihyang Technology Trade Company in October 2025 to discuss the details. The GUR stated that the Jihyang Company is responsible for the search and selection of North Korean workers to go to Russia, and the company is reportedly a front company for Green Pine, a US sanctioned company that is a hub for North Korea's weapons trade and has aided North Korea's nuclear program.

Japanese outlet NHK reported in June 2025 that North Korea was “considering” sending 25,000 workers to drone production facilities at the ASEZ, and the reported 12,000 North Koreans going to the drone factory by the end of the year are likely in addition to these 25,000.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reported on November 14 that North Korean sappers are demining in Kursk Oblast alongside Russian sappers.

The Russian MoD noted that the North Korean sappers previously underwent training at Russian engineering troop training centers. South Korea's Yonhap News Agency reported in early November 2025 that North Korea deployed roughly 5,000 military engineering troops to Russia, that there were 10,000 North Korean troops near the Russian-Ukrainian border performing “security duties,” and that another 1,000 troops were clearing mines.

ISW continues to assess that the deployment of North Korean troops to support roles frees up Russian forces to deploy to the battlefield. North Korean workers at the ASEZ will also notably be able to take lessons on large-scale drone production back to North Korea.


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Ukrainian forces continue to enhance their air defense system against Russian strikes in ways that offer Europe and the United States valuable lessons. Ukrainian Defense Minister Denis Shmyhal announced on November 14 that Ukraine launched serial production in Ukraine of the “Octopus” interceptor drone with three manufacturers beginning immediately and 11 others preparing production lines.

Shmyhal noted that the interceptor drones are able to operate at night, in electronic warfare (EW) contested environments, and at low altitudes. Shmyhal reported that the Octopus can intercept Russian Shahed-type drones. Shmyhal’s announcement follows a similar announcement on October 20 about the production of the Octopus drones in the UK.

Business Insider reported on November 12 that European defense company Atreyd stated that it shipped its “drone wall” system to Ukraine.

The “drone wall” reportedly consists of a collection of first-person view (FPV) drones that launch from designated platforms if radar systems detect a threat, and the drones are arrayed in layers and spaced apart. The FPVs intercept Russian drones by detonating nearby. The system reportedly relies on artificial intelligence (AI) to operate autonomously, and 1 operator will be able to control 100 drones. Business Insider reported that the “drone wall” system is able to operate in GPS-denied areas as it uses pre-installed 3D maps of the area, augmenting the system's electronic warfare (EW) resilience.

The system's drones are able to operate at various altitudes and are equipped with identification technology to prevent friendly fire. Business Insider noted that system operators will not require any specialized training nor prior drone pilot training. Atreyd noted that the system will likely be operational in Ukraine within a few weeks and that Ukraine will employ the system to defend its cities and critical infrastructure, but may deploy systems closer to the frontline to intercept Russian glide bombs later. Atreyd’s “drone wall” system is defensive in nature and notably differs from Ukraine's tactical ”wall of drones” concept, which uses a large number of tactical strike drones and loitering munitions to destroy manpower and equipment on the frontline.

Europe can glean important lessons from Ukraine's air defense measures, including its future employment of Atreyd’s system, to understand how innovations in tactics and technology can counter Russia's evolving aerial threats. ISW continues to assess that the West should support Ukraine's interceptor drone program, not only for Ukraine's defense against Russian strikes, but also for the defense of Europe.


Russian forces conducted a series of drone and missile strikes against Ukraine on the night of November 13 and 14 that largely targeted Ukrainian civilian areas. The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces launched 3 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles from Ryazan Oblast; 1 Zirkon anti-ship missile from an unspecified location; 6 Iskander-K/Kalibr cruise missiles from the waters near occupied Crimea and in the Black Sea; and 9 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles from Bryansk Oblast.

The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces also launched 430 Shahed-type, Gerbera-type, and other drones, including roughly 300 Shahed-type drones, from the directions of Kursk, Oryol, and Bryansk cities; Millerovo, Rostov Oblast; Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Krasnodar Krai; and occupied Hvardiiske, Crimea.

The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Ukrainian forces downed 2 Kinzhal missiles, 6 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles, all 6 Iskander-K/Kalibr cruise missiles, and 405 drones; that 1 missile and 23 drones struck 13 locations; and that drone debris fell at 44 locations. The Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces concentrated their strikes on Kyiv City. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reported that the Russian strikes mainly targeted Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Odesa oblasts, injuring dozens of civilians and killing at least four.

Zelensky highlighted how Ukraine's air defense systems, including US-made Patriot systems, neutralized 14 Russian missiles.

Kyiv Oblast Military Administration Head Timur Tkachenko reported that the Russian strikes injured 35 civilians and killed 6 in Kyiv Oblast.

A Russian Iskander missile damaged part of the Azerbaijani Embassy in Kyiv City. Ukrainian officials reported that the Russian strikes damaged civilian and energy infrastructure in southern Odesa Oblast, killing two and injuring 11 at a market in Chornomorsk.

ISW continues to assess that Russia remains committed to leveraging its long-range strikes that target Ukraine's civilian populace in an effort to sow fear and demoralize the Ukrainian people.


Infrastructure on the night of November 13 to 14. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces struck the Russian ship base in Novorossiysk, Krasnodar Krai with drones and Neptune missiles.

Ukrainian forces reportedly damaged port infrastructure, the Sheskharis oil terminal, and a launcher and missile storage area of an S-400 air defense system. The Sheskharis terminal is one of the largest oil tanker complexes for the transshipment of oil and petroleum products in southern Russia and supplies Russian forces operating in Ukraine.

A source in Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) told Ukrainian outlet Suspilne that the Ukrainian strikes damaged oil tankers, pipeline infrastructure, and pumping units as well as an S-300/400 air defense system at the base of the Russian 1537th Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment (7th Airborne [VDV] Division).

Geolocated footage published on November 13 and 14 shows an explosion at the base of the 1537th Anti-Aircraft Missile Regiment in Novorossiysk and a large fire near the Novorossiysk oil terminal.

The Krasnodar Krai Operational Headquarters claimed that Ukrainian drone strikes damaged the oil depot at the Sheskharis transshipment complex and that falling drone debris started a fire. The headquarters claimed that Ukrainian forces struck a civilian vessel in the port of Novorossiysk.

Reuters reported on November 14 that industry sources stated that the Novorossiysk port halted exports and Transneft suspended crude supplies to the outlet following the Ukrainian strikes.


The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces also struck the Saratov Oil Refinery in Saratov Oblast, which supplies the Russian military.

The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces also damaged infrastructure at the Krystal Plant fuel and lubricants storage enterprise in Engels Raion, Saratov Oblast. Ukrainian strikes reportedly caused fires at both enterprises in Saratov Oblast. Russian opposition outlet Astra reported that the fire at the oil refinery likely originated at the fuel storage tank.

Saratov Oblast Governor Roman Busargin claimed that a drone strike damaged civilian infrastructure in Saratov City.


https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-14-2025/
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1909 on: November 15, 2025, 05:53:35 pm »
Didn't the soviets do this in stalingrad? Let them take the city then encircle and destroy them.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1910 on: November 16, 2025, 12:37:32 pm »
Links and information about Ukraine’s destruction of Russian oil and electric power bases:

Ukraine unleashes missiles: Power plants burning across Russia
RFU News - from Ukraine

This almost 6 minute video sets out in mapped detail how Ukraine is upscaling its attack on Russian power and especially electricity. It shows how Ukraine is developing a coordinated strike in many areas at once with interlocking damage to multiple military and industrial plants, and to residential heat and light.

11 sites were shown and described, including one that is now out and affecting a large number of surrounding industrial activities. Longer range more powerful missiles are now carrying out the expanded Ukraine plan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc6A3ZDRj8M
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« Reply #1911 on: November 16, 2025, 12:40:44 pm »
Huge Russian convoy ambushed and burned on the road to Pokrovsk

RFU News - from Ukraine

This 5 1/2 minute video maps in detail the failure of a Russian column attempting to take advantage of fog to slip past Ukraine drones to enter the east side of Pokrovsk. The map then turns to showing how Russians are trying to move all the way into Pokrovsk from south to northern border.

Using teams of 2 or 3 men with a 100 drones, they attempt to destroy Ukraine troops. Ukraine is succeeding in destroying Russian soldiers hiding in Pokrovsk buildings using heat detection equipment, and flying drones right into these hideouts and blowing up the troops there.

In both videos, RFU explains how they have developed a Timeline Builder tool to enable a more comprehensive understanding of the planning and complexities of Ukraine’s efforts.

We may see this site was bombed, that site was bombed, but we are not normally seeing how all these individual events form part of a preplanned whole. I first became aware of this intelligent complexity a few days ago when viewing a video of the major Moscow blackout.

There it was explained how over months Ukraine had learned the complex connections of various parts of the Moscow area power grid. They were then able to strike the various sites in the right order to develop a cascading failure throughout the Moscow area. Later I heard that this failure had even set off cascading failures much further to the east in Russia.


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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1912 on: November 16, 2025, 01:02:04 pm »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, November 15, 2025

Just the headlines:

Russian forces used weather conditions to exploit vulnerabilities in Ukraine's drone-based battlefield defenses in the Novopavlivka direction, highlighting Ukraine's need for traditional weapons systems ...


Russian forces have recently been exploiting foggy weather to attack throughout the front, particularly in the Pokrovsk, Velykomykhailivka, and Hulyaipole directions ...


Ukrainian forces appear to be trying to replicate Russia's battlefield air interdiction (BAI) campaign on a limited scale ...


Russian forces have spent months conducting a strike campaign that achieved partial BAI efforts to shape the battlefield and set conditions for Russia's recent advances in the Pokrovsk, Velykomykhailivka, and Hulyaipole directions ...

Russia's large-scale production of glide bombs and Shahed-type drones will continue to facilitate Russia's BAI campaign on the front ...


North Korea continues to provide military support to Russia and may be preparing to provide Russia with drones in the future ...


Russian forces continue their BAI campaign against Ukrainian railway infrastructure, seeking to disrupt Ukrainian rear logistics hubs to facilitate battlefield gains ...


Russia's long-range drone and missile strike tactics are precisely targeting gas infrastructure in Ukraine during the heating season ...


Russia appears to be setting conditions to deploy involuntarily called up reservists to occupied Ukraine, likely in an effort to commit them to combat operations ...


Russian forces continue to boast about executing Ukrainian servicemembers ...


https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-15-2025/
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« Reply #1913 on: November 16, 2025, 01:02:46 pm »
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« Reply #1914 on: November 16, 2025, 01:13:33 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, Nov 13 2025


The Kremlin is increasingly home to Russia's internal enemies, and the situation is becoming dangerous

A high-ranking source in the Presidential Administration made this statement and asked us to publish it.

"While our guys are heroically fighting at the front, advancing despite terrible losses, the elites are increasingly advocating for a swift end to the Second World War, a halt to hostilities without any Victory ( we've written about this issue, ed. [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6331 ] ). They, you see, don't like war and crisis. And now many are hysterical about the strict internet restrictions being prepared for next year [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6405 ]. Weaklings and traitors!" the channel's interlocutor shared the information, expressing indignation.

He noted that he didn’t just give us this information for no reason.

"I'm constantly warning, but many are not listening. Internal enemies are growing practically everywhere, including in the Kremlin. They're lying low for now, but they could surface at any moment. And they need to be dealt with! The situation is becoming dangerous, and enemies and conciliators alike could do anything, including assassinate Vladimir Vladimirovich ! A response is needed!" the source believes [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/5715 ].

Several other sources in the Presidential Administration told us the situation isn't quite as complex or tragic. However, they acknowledge that the number of Kremlin supporters for a speedy end to the SVO is indeed growing.

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« Reply #1916 on: November 16, 2025, 01:40:33 pm »
Russian soldiers fighting near Pokrovsk say they are eating bark to avoid starvation, while they face systematic extortion, embezzlement, and violence from their commanders, who send numerous men to their deaths and routinely execute others who are deemed inconvenient.

Vladimir Valerievich Dulyaninov, serving in the 6th Guards Tank Regiment (military unit 93992), has recorded a series of videos which his aunt has released in an apparent effort to pressure the Russian authorities to take action against the regiment's commanders.

Dulyaninov has given a detailed account of the abuses in his unit, which reflect many similar accounts across the Russian army. He says that he is the commander of an assault platoon, but “I've lost many soldiers due to the reckless commanders, the rush and all that.” In a video recorded on 12 September 2025, he says that his men are sent “on meat-grinding missions, calculating that no one will survive, and arranging everything necessary for this.”

Before launching an assault, his commanders ordered him to execute 5 of his own men ( he does not explain the reasons for this ), but he refused to go through with it:

“They asked me to zero out my own people before the assault, people like me who came after the assault.”

“They had no provisions, no ammunition, and they were being driven forward. At that moment, I was like a repeater; communication through me was fine. I received both of [ the commanders ]. They told me to zero 5 [ men ].

“Do you understand? What should I do? My conscience wouldn't allow it, I listened to it. The guys, I understand them.”

He says that he “personally received such an order from a lieutenant with the call sign ‘Twilight,’ but I refused to carry it out.” Instead of murdering his own men, he persuaded them to join him on the assault so that they would have a chance of living. They all died anyway.

They send groups to the far end, that is, the front line. They say there is still food there, that everything should be there. The squads arrive there, but there is nothing. They don't send planes [ supply drones ] there.

“They say they can't fly there, although the allies [neighboring units] can. After that, they do everything to ensure that these groups don't survive. They sent us to storm, I survived, I was the only one.”

Dulyaninov says that his unit had to attack without fire support. Although he survived, he was badly injured:

“After that, when I rolled back [ retreated ], I had significant injuries, three shrapnel wounds, and a sprained leg. In general, I couldn't get back any faster, so I crawled somewhere. “I crawled for 6 days. It was 40 degrees Celsius [ 104 F ]. For 4 days I begged them for food and water. What did they drop? [ But ] it was to no avail.”

During the mission, he and his men ate foraged apples and tree bark to avoid starvation.

“There's no bleep food or drink here. We're just chewing apples. Before, I was eating bark. Holy shit, the supplies are crappy here.” He made it to the safety of a position held by the 24th Brigade, but found that his own unit had listed him as missing.

There had been no attempt to rescue any of the wounded. “The wounded are not evacuated; they are simply left to die.”

Dulyaninov describes the infiltration tactics currently being used by Russian commanders as a form of deliberate murder of their own men:

“It happens in various ways, but the basic one is this: a group of 5 people with 1 ration and a minimum of ammunition is sent to the furthest point of combat contact. It takes 3 days to get there - through minefields, barbed wire, and under fire.

“Finally, exhausted and hungry, the fighters reach the enemy, their stronghold, and ask for fire support. They are told: there will be no support, so just attack.

“But as soon as the group is detected, [ Ukrainian ] machine guns, snipers, automatic grenade launchers, and drones quickly attack and begin to ‘zero it out’.”

Dulyaninov says that “this is even scarier than Bakhmut ... It feels like everyone's been sent away for a reset [ death ]. It's total crap.”

“It feels like they've taken everyone to zero. Young guys, bleep, they're dying here, one after another, bitch. It's bleep up.”

In a sign of the heavy political pressure on the Russian army to advance quickly, he says that the commander of the 90th Tank Division ordered the 6th Regiment's commander to seize a ruined Ukrainian-held village “by lunchtime” or else be sent to an assault squad himself.

“The division commander said: if you don't take the village by lunchtime, the regiment commander will be the one to get the hell out of there. He'll be the one to get everyone to the assault - everyone forward.”

Major General Alexander Sergeyevich Nilov’s threat reportedly prompted Colonel Albert Ravilevich Bulatov to round up the regiment's wounded and send them into the battle along with the able-bodied men. The attack failed, amidst carnage.

“First, they were given provisions for the journey - 1 ration for 3 days, that's understandable. And that's all - there should have been provisions later, but in the end, damn it, they saw neither birds [ supply drones ] nor provisions.” The men were wounded and stranded in a village which was “nothing but bricks”, with “no drinks, no food, nothing”:

“The guys kept asking for food, but there's no bird. They go on the air and shout, “There's no food, we can't walk, our legs won't work.”

“And I personally heard them [ the commander ] shouting, basically, “go on the attack, bleep.” Everyone was “300-200”  [killed or wounded ] before the few survivors retreated. Duyaninov says that his commanders routinely extort large amounts of money from their men.

“For some, it's a good amount of money: 150,000 to 200,000 rubles [ $1,863–$2,484 ].” The money is taken on a “voluntary-compulsory” basis, ostensibly “for the needs of the unit.”

He names a specific recipient – Lieutenant Ruslan Daudgadzhievich O., call sign “Darginets,” to whose account the soldiers transfer funds, known as the “company cash desk.” Where the money actually goes is unclear to Duyaninov.

Before the men go on assault missions, they are forced to leave their bank cards and PIN codes with their commanders, and they find that their personal belongings have been stolen, if they return alive. Men who could testify against the commanders are murdered, Duyaninov says. He says that the order to “reset” the fighters is given by a commander with the call sign “Sumrak” and carried out by a soldier with the call sign “Zayats.”

Duyaninov says that he firmly believes “that God sees everything and will restore order.” He blames his corrupt and incompetent commanders, and implores Putin and the Russian Minister of Defense to intervene and set things right:

“All those bastards, the commanders, will get their comeuppance. I wish they'd take our place here ... I want, God willing, Vladimir Putin, Belousov, and everyone involved in the leadership to simply restore order, destroy everything, dispossess all these bleep.”

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1917 on: November 16, 2025, 01:49:37 pm »
Russians need to point their rifles and tanks back at their commanders. The system does not value their lives at all.

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« Reply #1918 on: November 16, 2025, 04:12:10 pm »
Russians need to point their rifles and tanks back at their commanders. The system does not value their lives at all.

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« Reply #1919 on: November 16, 2025, 07:03:06 pm »
Russians need to point their rifles and tanks back at their commanders. The system does not value their lives at all.

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« Reply #1922 on: November 16, 2025, 09:51:18 pm »
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Well, I am 1000% behind the brave Uke Soldiers.  If Z is bilking the coffers, is that okay with you?

If the Z machine skimmed $100M, just think how many additional Russians could have been offed' and Ukes saved.  I always suspected Z was sleazy.  We'll see how this pans out.   OTOH... are you going to call FNC a tool of Putin?    :silly:

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« Reply #1923 on: November 16, 2025, 09:55:21 pm »
Well, I am 1000% behind the brave Uke Soldiers.  If Z is bilking the coffers, is that okay with you?

If the Z machine skimmed $100M, just think how many additional Russians could have been offed' and Ukes saved.  I always suspected Z was sleazy.  We'll see how this pans out.   OTOH... are you going to call FNC a tool of Putin?    :silly:

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Zelensky isn't bilking the coffers - they caught some other government officials doing that.  If he were bilking anyhing, it wouldn't have come to light.  Duh.

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« Reply #1924 on: November 16, 2025, 11:54:14 pm »
Zelensky isn't bilking the coffers - they caught some other government officials doing that.  If he were bilking anyhing, it wouldn't have come to light.  Duh.

Drop the hate.  It ill becomes you.

His advisors and admin aren't an extension of his rule?  Where there is smoke, there's fire.....  I'll watching this one closely.
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« Reply #1925 on: November 17, 2025, 06:20:26 am »
Well, I am 1000% behind the brave Uke Soldiers.  If Z is bilking the coffers, is that okay with you?

If the Z machine skimmed $100M, just think how many additional Russians could have been offed' and Ukes saved.  I always suspected Z was sleazy.  We'll see how this pans out.   OTOH... are you going to call FNC a tool of Putin?    :silly:

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Seems to me that Zelensky is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  They caught the crooks and run them out of office with prosecutions to follow.  Not sure what else he could do.

In the meantime, nobody seems to care about asking how Putin went from a penniless ex-KGB cab driver in St. Petersburg to one of the wealthiest men in the world.
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« Reply #1926 on: November 17, 2025, 07:45:28 am »
So it is a good thing to let Z swing because there is corruption which came to Ukraine while Russia ruled the country, and we should not help them overcome the Russians who are many times more corrupt?

Every one here does understand that Ukraine is not a democratic republic like the US? That Ukraine is a parliamentary government? That Z sits on the President's chair because he is the leader of the political party that won the last election and formed, with other political parties, a government?

Does everybody understand that since elected, Z and other parts of the government have been fighting the corruption the Russians began? That many in the government actively tried to sabotage the war because they are Russians, while stealing as much as possible for as long as possible?

That the body which controls Parliament is not Z, but the Presidential Administration [ a Russian invention ], headed by Andri Yermak who colluded with the Russians to remove the minefields along the Crimean border, allowing the Russian 57th Army to invade without opposition?

Yermak used to work for the FSB and his dad who lived in Russsia worked for the KGB.

No matter what Z whats to do, Yermak has to approve. Else it does not happen. Blaming Z for the corruption is more Russian agitation done in the hopes that the West will be repelled and withdraw support.
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« Reply #1927 on: November 17, 2025, 07:50:22 am »

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I've said a 100 times here, I'd like to see Putin swinging from a tree.  So if you are going to LIE about me..   at least be plausible about it
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« Reply #1928 on: November 17, 2025, 08:41:24 am »
Stick it up your __...

I've said a 100 times here, I'd like to see Putin swinging from a tree.  So if you are going to LIE about me..   at least be plausible about it


And yet, each and every time, you favor the actions that would guarantee Putin’s victory.  There’s a phrase for that:  the lady doth protest too much.
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« Reply #1929 on: November 17, 2025, 08:57:32 am »

And yet, each and every time, you favor the actions that would guarantee Putin’s victory.  There’s a phrase for that:  the lady doth protest too much.

Sacrificing truth  and objectivity for side intent?

I did have you pegged pretty well. You'd make a great Minister of Propaganda......
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« Reply #1930 on: November 17, 2025, 09:11:21 am »
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« Reply #1931 on: November 17, 2025, 09:19:49 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, November 16, 2025


Mostly headlines:


Russian forces are attempting to complete their encirclement of Ukrainian forces in Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad. ...


Foggy conditions impede both sides’ operations, and both sides have developed approaches to mitigate their effects ...

The logistical situation for Ukrainian forces in Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad remains difficult ...


The situation in the Hulyaipole direction remains very serious as Russian forces continue to advance and maintain intensified offensive operations ...


Ukrainian forces report that they are successfully pushing back Russian efforts to seize Kupyansk ...
 

The Kremlin used an interview with Kremlin-affiliated former Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada Deputy Viktor Medvedchuk to reiterate Russia's objective of absorbing all of Ukraine into Russia - possibly under the control of Medvedchuk himself. Medvedchuk's statements are consistent with ISW’s assessments that Russia aims to absorb all of Ukraine and with US President Donald Trump's statements that Putin “wants all of it.”'

Medvedchuk - a close personal ally of Putin, whom Putin initially wanted to install in place of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky following Russia's full-scale invasion, claimed in an interview that Kremlin newswire TASS published on November 15 that he believes that Ukraine will not “survive as a state” in the future.

Medvedchuk stated that he considers the reunification of Ukraine with Russia a strategic goal and called the preservation of an independent Ukraine a threat to Russia, claiming that an independent Ukraine will inevitably become a springboard for the “collective West.” Medvedchuk's statements imply that Medvedchuk does not see himself as the future president of an independent Ukraine, but merely as the leader of his Other Ukraine organization - a Russian organization conducting the explicit Russification of Ukraine.

Medvedchuk's statements indicate that the Kremlin seeks to absorb all of Ukraine into Russia, not just the four oblasts that Russia has illegally annexed. Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev has repeatedly promoted Russia's far-reaching territorial objectives involving the absorption of nearly all of Ukraine into Russia


Medvedchuk and other Russian officials are attempting to position him and his organization, Other Ukraine, as responsible for the absorption of Ukraine into Russia and the complete destruction of an independent Ukrainian political and cultural identity. Medvedchuk boasted about the success of forced integration efforts and continued to advance the false Russian narrative that Ukrainians want to be Russified.

Medvedchuk continued to promote the Other Ukraine organization that he created in January 2023 as a mechanism for Russification efforts through the claim that the organization has created six centers to ”assist“ former Ukrainian citizens in Russia.

Medvedchuk stated that he has repeatedly met with Russian State Duma Chairperson Vyacheslav Volodin to advance cooperation between the Other Ukraine organization and State Duma committees.

Medvedchuk stated that Volodin issued an order to include representatives of Other Ukraine in working committees and commissions of state duma committees. Medvedchuk's claims, not yet substantiated by other Russian officials, are an attempt to elevate Medvedchuk and his Other Ukraine project to the status of leaders of the Kremlin's project to Russify Ukraine.


Russian forces continue to encourage war crimes against Ukrainian service members and civilians on the battlefield. Far-right Russian paramilitary unit Rusich Sabotage Assault Reconnaissance Group leader Alexei Milchakov amplified photos of the November 15 execution of 3 Ukrainian prisoners-of-war (POWs) and claimed that he would offer cash prizes to the first three people who submit a photo with “clearly executed prisoners in the background.”

Milchakov operates as both the leader of a Russian paramilitary unit and a prominent voice in the Russian milblogger information space, and his calls to commit war crimes against Ukrainian service members reflect Russian forces’ widely accepted cultural and systemic practice of committing war crimes on the battlefield.


The Ukrainian Zaporizhia Oblast Prosecutor's Office reported on November 16 that it opened an investigation into Russian forces’ November 14 execution of three Ukrainian POWs in the Hulyaipole direction.

A source reportedly affiliated with Ukrainian military intelligence posted footage on November 15 showing Russian forces murdering two surrendering Ukrainian POWs on the outskirts of Zatyshshya (east of Hulyaipole).

A returned Ukrainian civilian whom Russian occupation authorities detained in occupied Donetsk Oblast in 2020 told Ukrainian outlet Suspilne that Russian occupation authorities brutally tortured him.

ISW continues to assess that the Russian military command is endorsing and sometimes ordering war crimes on the battlefield and that Russia is torturing and abusing Ukrainian civilian prisoners.


https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-16-2025/
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« Reply #1932 on: November 17, 2025, 09:22:16 am »
Russian spy drones owned the sky - until Ukraine took the fight underground.

Our exclusive from inside the bunkers where anti-aircraft teams hunt Russia's high-altitude reconnaiance drones.

Big Russian reconnaissance drones like the Orlan-10, Zala, and Supercam slip through Ukrainian defenses and patrol for hours deep in Ukrainian territory, guiding Iskander missiles and Lancet drones to devastate Ukrainian training grounds, logistical hubs, and civilian targets. Until recently, Ukraine was powerless against these spy drones. Flying at altitudes of 4-5 km, above the range of MANPADs and anti-aircraft guns, demanding expensive anti-air missiles, the feared recon UAVs could loiter for hours, unhindered, spotting targets that Russian ballistic missiles would slam into minutes later.

Even if the Russian scouts got into range, Ukraine's air defense teams were prohibited from attempting to shoot them down during the day, lest they themselves become a target. Then came Ukraine's $600 interceptor drones - now hunting the $30,000-120,000 reconnaissance UAVs from underground bunkers the Russians can't target.

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« Reply #1933 on: November 17, 2025, 11:58:14 am »
Well....Welll... Welll

https://www.foxnews.com/world/golden-toilet-scandal-zelenskyy-faces-deepest-crisis-yet-allies-accused-100m-wartime-scheme

These stories about Zelensky all ring familiar in tone. They're very much like the WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!!! stories the media and the Never Trumpers run about Trump.

Zelensky Flees Ukraine! (He didn't)
Zelensky buys Josef Goebbel's villa (He didn't)
Zelensky buys an Italian winery from Sting (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a mansion from King Charles III (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a casino in Northern Cyprus (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a hotel in Courchevel (He didn't)
Zelensky buys two superyachts (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a Bugatti Vayron (He didn't)
Zelensky enjoys a vacation in Argentina (He didn't)
Zelensky bought Hitler's limousine (He didn't)
Zelensky paid $27 million to Time Magazine for favorable coverage (He didn't)
Zelensky called for donations to assassinate Donald Trump (He didn't)
Zelensky was blamed for the terror attack on Crocus City Hall in Russia (baseless)
Zelensky tried to have Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico assassinated in May (He didn't)
Zelensky tried to have Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban assassinated (He didn't)
Zelensky was accused of selling icons from Russian churches (He didn't)

This is just one more in a long line of bullshit Russian propaganda stories that fall apart under even the least bit of scrutiny.

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« Reply #1934 on: November 17, 2025, 12:21:03 pm »
These stories about Zelensky all ring familiar in tone. They're very much like the WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!!! stories the media and the Never Trumpers run about Trump.

Zelensky Flees Ukraine! (He didn't)
Zelensky buys Josef Goebbel's villa (He didn't)
Zelensky buys an Italian winery from Sting (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a mansion from King Charles III (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a casino in Northern Cyprus (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a hotel in Courchevel (He didn't)
Zelensky buys two superyachts (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a Bugatti Vayron (He didn't)
Zelensky enjoys a vacation in Argentina (He didn't)
Zelensky bought Hitler's limousine (He didn't)
Zelensky paid $27 million to Time Magazine for favorable coverage (He didn't)
Zelensky called for donations to assassinate Donald Trump (He didn't)
Zelensky was blamed for the terror attack on Crocus City Hall in Russia (baseless)
Zelensky tried to have Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico assassinated in May (He didn't)
Zelensky tried to have Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban assassinated (He didn't)
Zelensky was accused of selling icons from Russian churches (He didn't)

This is just one more in a long line of bullshit Russian propaganda stories that fall apart under even the least bit of scrutiny.

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« Reply #1935 on: November 17, 2025, 01:36:33 pm »
These stories about Zelensky all ring familiar in tone. They're very much like the WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!!! stories the media and the Never Trumpers run about Trump.

Zelensky Flees Ukraine! (He didn't)
Zelensky buys Josef Goebbel's villa (He didn't)
Zelensky buys an Italian winery from Sting (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a mansion from King Charles III (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a casino in Northern Cyprus (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a hotel in Courchevel (He didn't)
Zelensky buys two superyachts (He didn't)
Zelensky buys a Bugatti Vayron (He didn't)
Zelensky enjoys a vacation in Argentina (He didn't)
Zelensky bought Hitler's limousine (He didn't)
Zelensky paid $27 million to Time Magazine for favorable coverage (He didn't)
Zelensky called for donations to assassinate Donald Trump (He didn't)
Zelensky was blamed for the terror attack on Crocus City Hall in Russia (baseless)
Zelensky tried to have Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico assassinated in May (He didn't)
Zelensky tried to have Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban assassinated (He didn't)
Zelensky was accused of selling icons from Russian churches (He didn't)

This is just one more in a long line of bullshit Russian propaganda stories that fall apart under even the least bit of scrutiny.

 tipping hat!!

So Fox News is now an agent of Russian propaganda?

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« Reply #1936 on: November 17, 2025, 01:53:18 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, Nov 17 2025


Russia is predicted to face five years of "a very strong war," followed by several more wars lasting 18-20 years

Philosopher Alexander Dugin made this prediction in a conversation with our channel.

"I recently published a post about the return of the Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kharkiv, Poltava, and Sumy regions to Russia. I spoke with military personnel and with people from the Kremlin. Liberating these regions will require 5 years of a very intense war. I hope many Russians will read my words and understand what they should be preparing for next year," said Alexander Gelyevich.

In total, he predicts, Russia will be at war for another 18-20 years, and not just in Ukraine. Moreover, such wars will certainly be repeated several times. Therefore, it is crucial to urgently increase the birth rate.

"I've seen the secret birth rate figures. They're a disaster; Russia is dying! We need to take action and increase the birth rate as early as next year. So that in those same 18-20 years, we can train new fighters who will take part in a new war. After all, this is the key to our survival," Dugin emphasized.

He expects that drastic measures to increase the birth rate will be adopted as early as next year. First and foremost, abortion will be banned.

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« Reply #1937 on: November 17, 2025, 01:56:09 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, Nov 17 2025

Putin's assessments of the Russian economy upset him. The Kremlin found a solution

Preliminary data from Rosstat demonstrate a consistent trend: our economy continues to slow. GDP growth has fallen to just 0.6%. This figure exceeded the Central Bank's expectations. They, as is well known, always take a more objective view of the situation.

The President received the information well in advance and was disappointed. He had expected real GDP growth of at least 2%, even though this fell short of the forecasts of the Ministry of Economic Development and key analysts.

The Presidential Administration proposed withholding data on the Russian economy, at least in the near future, until the figures increase significantly. The Central Bank considers this scenario unlikely, as concealing official data could further damage the economy and create grounds for new conspiracy theories. Interestingly, Vaino supported the idea of ​​withholding data on the economy, while Kiriyenko opposed it.

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« Reply #1938 on: November 17, 2025, 02:01:05 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, Nov 16 2025

Belousov fears Putin's wrath


The Defense Minister has begun praying more often and is considering mobilization.

We wrote: the President is very unhappy that the military is unable to protect our oil refineries from enemy attacks [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6417 ]. Andrei Belousov fears that Vladimir Putin's wrath will be directed personally at him. He is considering what to do in this situation.

"Unfortunately, we won't be able to fully protect the refinery right now. And Andrei Removich understands this. But he's considering other actions whose results would please Vladimir Vladimirovich. In particular, how to completely liberate the DPR as quickly as possible [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6408 ]. In this regard, Andrei Removich is even leaning toward asking the President to declare mobilization, and as soon as possible," a source close to Belousov told us [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6365 ].

He also said that the head of the Ministry of Defense "would not be opposed to praying with Vladimir Vladimirovich at the relics of Matronushka of Moscow." [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6255 ] But he doesn't know whether this will be possible.

Another source close to the Defense Minister confirmed that Belousov is worried. "But he's started praying more. God will help Andrei Removich and show him a way out of this difficult situation," the source is confident.

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