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If a district judge can overturn an act of congress, then what government do we have?

Nothing remotely in the Constitution permits this to happen.

Judge Stops Congress From Defunding Planned Parenthood, Outrage and Confusion Follow

In a stunning decision, a federal judge has provided relief to Planned Parenthood and stopped Congress from defunding the abortion giant.

Judge Indira Talwani of the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts granted a requested temporary restraining order on Monday. In doing so, she ordered the executive branch not to carry out the section of the recently passed congressional reconciliation package that stops funding Planned Parenthood and its member organizations.
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Speaking as a layman, this seems patently insane to me. We aren't talking about an executive order where the base-level authority to take an action is being contested. This was passed by Congress and is currently the law of the land. How can a judge order the executive branch to violate a law passed by Congress without finding the law itself legally deficient in some way?

But it's not just non-lawyers like me who are scoffing at this. Those with years of professional legal experience are thoroughly confused as to how this judge managed to arrive at her conclusion.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/07/new-judge-stops-congress-from-defunding-planned-parenthood-outrage-and-confusion-follows-n2191356
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I found the problem! Judge Indira Talwani.
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I found the problem! Judge Indira Talwani.


Judge Indira Talwani
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Congress has the Constitutional authority to not fund things.  The Power of the Purse is kinda Congress' thing.

Nothing is stopping the judge from donating her own money to Planned Parenthood.
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Judge Indira Talwani

Where do we find such legal geniuses?
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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yay, another foreign looking judge , though wiki says she was born in New Jersey. Never heard of her, another Obama appointee that think she has the line-item veto.

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Stoopid Congress still thinks it writes the laws in this country.

Fifth Amendment?  The House vote, the Senate Vote, and Budget reconciliation were the Due Process.  Where were their lobbyists and their friends in Congress?

First Amendment?  Protects speech, but payment is not speech.

Congress is not prohibiting Planned Parenthood from operating; the People's representatives with the Power of the Purse simply withdrew Federal funding.

These libs are mistaking feeding at the taxpayers' trough for a God-given right.  Nobody has a God-given right to suckle upon the bosom of the American taxpayers.

Appeal.  Appeal.  Appeal.  Have SCOTUS call her to the principal's office.
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Brain fart ... Medicaid is a state-administered program.  Planned Parenthood could get its money from the state Governments.

The issue at hand is who pays Planned Parenthood.  Instead of the Feds picking up the tab, the states can do it.  It's credit card roulette, not speech nor due process.
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Congress also has the power to impeach judges.  :whistle:

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This is pure nonsense. If anyone is paying any attentions to the wacko 'judge', it will not make it to the end of the week.

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Once again, I will post my piece on "dealing with rogue judges":
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There needs to be proclaimed (yes, proclaimed) "The Trump Doctrine" on the relationship between the Executive and the Judiciary.

It must re-define how much power the federal courts have to exercise against the president and his powers.

No individual federal judge anywhere should have the power to overturn executive action.
At the district court level, when and where federal/nationwide policies are impacted, judges should have no more power other than to issue an opinion (strictly an "opinion", not a "ruling").

It will be up to the president as to whether to accept or reject such an opinion.

If rejected, then it can be appealed upwards to the next level. The president should declare in his proclamation that only a judgment by the full appellate court (NOT a 3-judge panel) will be binding -- and ONLY within the confines of that district -- AGAIN, IF the president chooses to accept the ruling.

And after that, we're left with the U.S. Supreme Court. Of course, this is going to carry more weight, but I've come to the (very personal) conclusion that even the 9 justices in their black robes should not be entrusted to dictate final decisions before the American people.

Rather, in matters of national social and cultural importance, any U.S. Supreme Court decision should be "annullable-cancelable" by a vote of the U.S. Congress and Senate.

Frankly, I don't even trust most of our "elected leaders" (do YOU?).
I'd rather see such matters put up to a national vote -- much like the Swiss people do RIGHT NOW.
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Nothing difficult to understand here.
The administration should just issue a public statement that this judge's ruling will not be honored.

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Appeal to a higher court and have a real judge eviscerate her legal slop.  Find a judge who has a grudge against U Cal Berkeley Law School to write it.
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Congress also has the power to impeach judges.  :whistle:
They can do more than that, as they can eliminate any district court they wish.
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Judge Indira Talwani

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They can do more than that, as they can eliminate any district court they wish.

As I have said before... A Congress, jealous of its powers... That will fix a lot of sins.

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Where do we find such legal geniuses?

Cal-Berkeley?
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