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Iran holds world hostage: Iranian government poised to SHUT Strait of Hormuz closing off 20 per cent of global oil and gas

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By KATHERINE LAWTON
22 June 2025



Iranian parliament has approved the closure of the Strait of Hormuz in a move which could see the world thrown into disaster.

The decision to close the Strait, through which around 20 per cent of global oil and gas demand flows, is not yet final.

Iran's Supreme National Security Council must still make the final call on the matter, Iran's Press TV said today.

But lawmaker and Revolutionary Guards Commander Esmail Kosari told the Young Journalist Club that doing so is on the agenda and 'will be done whenever necessary'.

Last weekend, Kowsari told local media that closing the Strait of Hormuz 'is under consideration, and Iran will make the best decision with determination'.

The Strait is a pivotal trade route for the world, with around a fifth of the world's oil flowing through the tiny sea passage, along with the same proportion of all Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), making it the 'world's most important oil transit chokepoint'.

But Kowsari said Iran was not limiting its options in dealing with Israel, telling local media last week: 'Our hands are wide open when it comes to punishing the enemy, and the military response was only part of our overall response.'

Trade Gerrit Heinemann told Bild that should Iran choose to close the Strait, which borders the country, the results would be 'catastrophic.'

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No chance Iran is actually able to do this. Military forces from all over the world will blast right through whatever Iran tries to do.
Whatever 'confidence' Iran is summoning up to make them believe they are a mighty global power is as impressive as it is misguided.
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I hope the US has a plan for this...
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I hope the US has a plan for this...

Maybe that is why the Subs are near by.  Stealthy and deadly.
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I suppose they could simply scuttle their own tankers in the strait. Not sure how effective that would be.
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That would be an act of war against Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Qatar and UAE. Especially if they attack ships outside their territorial waters. It would be open season on their ships and bases along the coastline there.

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I suppose they could simply scuttle their own tankers in the strait. Not sure how effective that would be.

The water is about 300' deep through the straight's shipping corridor.

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Rubio: Iran Closing Strait of Hormuz Would Be ‘Massive Escalation’

On this week’s broadcast of Fox News Channel’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that if Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it would be a “massive escalation” that would merit a response.

Host Maria Bartiromo asked, “Do you expect Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz to disrupt oil transportation?”

Rubio said, “Well, I would encourage the Chinese government in Beijing to call column about that, because they heavily depend on the Straits of Hormuz for their oil. If they do that, it will be another terrible mistake. It’s economic suicide for them if they do it, and we retain options to deal with that. But other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries’ economies a lot worse than ours. It would be a, I think, a massive escalation that would have merit, a response not just by us, but from others. So look, they’re going to they’re going to say what they need to say. You know, these are the things that need to happen for their own internal politics and so forth.”

He added, “But in the end, we’re going to judge them by the actions that they take moving forward. We had three objectives. We struck those three objectives with decisive force, and that was the point of this mission. And that’s what we achieved. What happens next will depend on what they do. They want to negotiate. We’re ready to negotiate. They want to get out and do things that are dangerous. We have responses available that are devastating.”

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No chance Iran is actually able to do this. Military forces from all over the world will blast right through whatever Iran tries to do.
Whatever 'confidence' Iran is summoning up to make them believe they are a mighty global power is as impressive as it is misguided.

:yowsa: But they may be just dumb enough to try.
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JUST IN: Iranian Parliament Votes To Blockade The Strait Of Hormuz

Published 3 hours ago

on June 22, 2025

By Cullen McCue

The Iranian parliament voted on Sunday to close the vital Strait of Hormuz, through which around 20 percent of oil and gas demand flows. Iran’s Supreme National Security Council will now decide whether to finalize the decision, which would represent a significant escalation in the conflict.

The narrow waterway connects the Persian Gulf to both the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea, and is located between Iran to the north and the United Arab Emirates and Oman to the south. It is approximately 21 miles wide at its narrowest point. Major Asian economies, including Japan, South Korea and China, are most reliant on fuel shipments heading through the strait, though any disruption is likely to send energy prices soaring worldwide.

Iran has long threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz in the event of U.S. strikes on its nuclear sites, which were carried out Saturday evening. The decision to close the vital passageway has not yet been made final, though Revolutionary Guards Commander Esmail Kosari told the Young Journalist Club on Sunday that doing so is on the agenda and “will be done whenever necessary,” according to a report from the Jerusalem Post.

As of Sunday morning, Danish shipping giant Maersk announced that its vessels will be continuing with routine voyages through the Strait of Hormuz, but is ready to re-evaluate should the security situation change. “We will continuously monitor the security risk to our specific vessels in the region and are ready to take operational actions as needed,” a company spokesperson said.



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Does Marco think the response should be from us?

That's why I am asking if the US has a plan for this...surely they knew this would happen!
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That's why I am asking if the US has a plan for this...surely they knew this would happen!
A vote and a headline are meaningless. The plan will become clear if they actually try to make it happen in reality.
What Muslims say is irrelevant. What they do is all that matters. Especially when dealing with Iran.
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A vote and a headline are meaningless. The plan will become clear if they actually try to make it happen in reality.
What Muslims say is irrelevant. What they do is all that matters. Especially when dealing with Iran.

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The only way the Straits of Hormuz will be "closed" is if:
1. The iranians send their entire navy there
and then
2. We sink their navy to the bottom
and if
3. A few sunk ships end up too close to the surface.

They'll be "cleared out" quickly.

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This is dumb. Regardless of whatever disagreements stand between them, Egypt ought to get together with Israel and the US to develop the Suez canal to allow tanker passage into the Med.

I know it's a butt-ton of dough, but it would pay for itself eventually in the same way as the Panama canal... Serious money, but it checkmates all those bad actors down in the Hormuz straight. Likewise Saudi and Jordanian development overland toward Israeli and Lebanese ports.

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The only way the Straits of Hormuz will be "closed" is if:
1. The iranians send their entire navy there
and then
2. We sink their navy to the bottom
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3. A few sunk ships end up too close to the surface.

They'll be "cleared out" quickly.

They'll flood the area with mines. Then we'll need drone mine sweepers.

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No chance Iran is actually able to do this. Military forces from all over the world will blast right through whatever Iran tries to do.
Whatever 'confidence' Iran is summoning up to make them believe they are a mighty global power is as impressive as it is misguided.

If they do it, they'll water mine the strait. God knows how many mines they've made. Dumping thousands of mines into that narrow area would take a long time to clear out. We need cheep drone mine sweepers.

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If they do it, they'll water mine the strait. God knows how many mines they've made. Dumping thousands of mines into that narrow area would take a long time to clear out. We need cheep drone mine sweepers.

We have eyes on them.  I ain't worried about Iran mining anything except digging out it's nuke bunkers.
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They'll flood the area with mines. Then we'll need drone mine sweepers.

I don't believe what you say.  You are always with the negative waves. You worry too much.
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Maybe we just should have let Israel handle it? Why did we have to bomb them?

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Maybe we just should have let Israel handle it? Why did we have to bomb them?

Because we could. Besides those bombs have a shelf life.  Use'm or lose'm. It was an economical decision.
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That's why I am asking if the US has a plan for this...surely they knew this would happen!

In listening to a portion of Hegseth's and Caine's presser today, this has been planned for awhile in conjunction with Israel.  I have confidence that they've thought through multiple scenarios.

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Maybe we just should have let Israel handle it? Why did we have to bomb them?

So .... there is always a choice.  In this case, either allow Iran to have full nuclear capabilities or stop them in their tracks.

Iran could not be allowed to have nukes.  This was the right choice.


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Maybe we just should have let Israel handle it? Why did we have to bomb them?

Evidently, Israel doesn't have anything that will carry a bunker-buster.  :shrug:

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In listening to a portion of Hegseth's and Caine's presser today, this has been planned for awhile in conjunction with Israel.  I have confidence that they've thought through multiple scenarios.
Trump had a plan on ending the Ukraine war and Gaza conflict. How is that going?

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Trump had a plan on ending the Ukraine war and Gaza conflict. How is that going?

Oh look who is back @Cyber Liberty?  Buttboy from Huffpost.
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Oh look who is back @Cyber Liberty?  Buttboy from Huffpost.
Not sure who that is, But more involvement in the Middle East and America getting involved in more wars for Israel is a bad thing for America. You are 37 TRILLION in debt.

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Not sure who that is, But more involvement in the Middle East and America getting involved in more wars for Israel is a bad thing for America. You are 37 TRILLION in debt.

You don't know who @Cyber Liberty is. Not surprising since you are not from here, nor are you an American.
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You don't know who @Cyber Liberty is. Not surprising since you are not from here, nor are you an American.
I’m not American, and? I hold values thatcher and Reagan spread throughout the world from a fiscal and moral standpoint and I love the history and peoples of America. I’m just giving my view points  :shrug:

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I’m not American, and? I hold values thatcher and Reagan spread throughout the world from a fiscal and moral standpoint and I love the history and peoples of America. I’m just giving my view points  :shrug:

Your view points and your Hate boner for Trump told me you really don't like the American people. 
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Your view points and your Hate boner for Trump told me you really don't like the American people.
America and the American people are not the same as Trump.

I also don’t “hate” Trump. I just don’t believe every move he makes is correct. Politicians are not kings, queens, or gods. We shouldn’t worship them or blindly believe everything they say. They’re human. He lies like everyone else, and he has pros and cons in his mentality and beliefs, just like every single other person.

America and the West aren’t North Korea. We’re allowed to have different, nuanced viewpoints that don’t align with the dear leader.
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In listening to a portion of Hegseth's and Caine's presser today, this has been planned for awhile in conjunction with Israel.  I have confidence that they've thought through multiple scenarios.

I'm worried we relied on Israeli intel. 



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I'm worried we relied on Israeli intel.

Only because you hate Jews and Israel.   It is your major defect as a human.
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Only because you hate Jews and Israel.   It is your major defect as a human.
America isn’t a Jewish state. Why should America spend trillions like Bibi wanted during 2002, to fight their war?

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Only because you hate Jews and Israel.   It is your major defect as a human.

You speak nonsense, @Wingnut   But, I probably should have added "only", as in I hope we haven't relied only on Israeli intel. 

Seriously, would you really feel confident commiting our blood and treasure to battle with Iran based solely on the advice of a premier who proclaimed 25 years ago (and every year since) that Iran was weeks away from acquiring a nuclear bomb --- and who testified that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the people would greet our soldiers in the streets as heroes for removing Saddam? 

Wouldn't you at least feel the need to verify from a second source the information presented by the esteemed security/spy agency that missed Hamas purchasing weapons, blasting and carving tunnels and running drills practicing for the invasion that took --- by their own admission --- the whole Israeli spy apparatus and government by surprise?

I'm grateful it's still okay to put the safeguarding of American blood and treasure first;  because I always will.

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America isn’t a Jewish state. Why should America spend trillions like Bibi wanted during 2002, to fight their war?

Iran has been at war with the US for 40+ years killing thousands of Americans. Iran having nukes would be catastrophic for the US. Iran places the US above Israel on their hate list. They've repeatedly said what their goal is - why do you not hear them?

Take a dose of reality.

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America isn’t a Jewish state. Why should America spend trillions like Bibi wanted during 2002, to fight their war?

Because ignoring evil that proves/wants to kill us only gets more expensive/deadlier the longer we wait...with less of a chance to win.... this bombing should of been done years ago.
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Iran has been at war with the US for 40+ years killing thousands of Americans. Iran having nukes would be catastrophic for the US. Iran places the US above Israel on their hate list. They've repeatedly said what their goal is - why do you not hear them?

Take a dose of reality.
Iran has been at “war” with the US for 40+ years because the deep state has wanted war in the Middle East for 40+ years. Americans clearly voted to get out of the Middle East and voted for American ONLY. You lot are wanting to commit the same deep state bullshit yet again. More war, more death, more debt, for a region thousands of miles away. It’s the same bull again and again and again. When will you ever learn?
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'I Don't Know If America Should Be Involved In Another Middle Eastern War,' Says Raging Antisemite

https://babylonbee.com/news/i-dont-know-if-america-should-be-involved-in-another-middle-eastern-war-says-raging-antisemite
lmao so now its antisemitic for not fighting an Israeli war? Eisenhower Was right, the US has been compromised by fundamentalists on all sides.

Sorry didn’t realise this might be sarcasm, that’s the result of politicians and media literally portraying it as such.
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Threw you a curveball.... This "fundie" may have a far different take on the situation than you do... but we are just a small political forum and most of us agree on 88+/- % of the subjects here.

I support Israel on this matter... but I also don't buy everything Israel is selling. So on occasion (according to the Babylon Bee humor) I may be the "antisemitic".
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Threw you a curveball.... This "fundie" may have a far different take on the situation than you do... but we are just a small political forum and most of us agree on 88+/- % of the subjects here.

I support Israel on this matter... but I also don't buy everything Israel is selling. So on occasion (according to the Babylon Bee humor) I may be the "antisemitic".
This is the thing though, we have different views points, that’s a good thing, we are not a monolith.

My view is America is 37 TRILLION dollars in debt, the people have voted for no war and American first, no mass immigration, get out of the Middle East.

This latest action just puts America in a position where: hundreds of billions is spent, more mass immigration is spread through the world, more instability. For what? The word of bibi? We have seen this play out before. It’s a JOKE.


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The aftermath begins: Iran closes world oil supply route, countries willing to provide Iran with nukes
June 23, 2025 | Kevin Haggerty |

Ramifications of the strike on Iran manifested as threats of aiding armament and massive oil disruption came to a head against the “courageous and consequential” actions of the president.

While the U.S. Air Force B-2 bombers returned from their Saturday strike against the Islamist regime’s nuclear facilities, Iran signaled it was neither ready to cry uncle nor give up its pursuit of enriched uranium. Rather, as allies signaled a willingness to provide the Middle Eastern nation with warheads and proxies appeared poised to strike nearby U.S. military bases, Iran was plotting to block the Strait of Hormuz.

“Any closure attempt would be temporary and ultimately self-destructive,” argued Middle East Forum Executive Director Gregg Roman to the New York Post. “Iran depends on the strait for its own vital imports and knows that such action would trigger an overwhelming response from the US 5th Fleet, which maintains detailed operational plans for exactly this scenario.”

The statement came as Iran’s parliament voted to close the passage, leaving a final decision to Iran’s Supreme Council that would impact the daily passage of roughly 20% of the world’s oil.

While the price of a barrel of oil ticked up over 4% Sunday to $77, and Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Commander Email Kosari expressed escalation “will be done whenever necessary,” Roman maintained the action would be devastating for Iran as well.

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