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The truth is Israel won't hesitate to drag us into this if their incursion goes sideways.  I think now is the time for US citizens to let their opinions be known.

No matter who is president, the neocons always get their way.  Our government told the families of servicemen to leave.  You know good and well what that means. 

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Then better hurry up with that parade for Bibi.

Ordering the kugel now!   :laugh:

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https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1933345195057102871

Trump already made his ultimatum to Iran. He explicitly stated that either make a deal now or be bombed. Why are you pretending he didn't???

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Israel launching third wave.  Declare they are just getting started.

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Trump already made his ultimatum to Iran. He explicitly stated that either make a deal now or be bombed. Why are you pretending he didn't???

I'm not pretending anything.  It's been reported through multiple sources that quite recently Trump discussed with Netanyahu Israel standing down on Iran --- and the Israeli leader understood the "or be bombed" was a negotiating strategy, not a green light.

Unfortunately, Benjamin Netanyahu is still proving to be without honor or veracity ---- .

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BREAKING: New explosion hits the Natanz Nuclear Facility in Iran, smoke rising



https://x.com/BNONews/status/1933351854064243025
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I'm not pretending anything.  It's been reported through multiple sources that quite recently Trump discussed with Netanyahu Israel standing down on Iran --- and the Israeli leader understood the "or be bombed" was a negotiating strategy, not a green light.

Unfortunately, Benjamin Netanyahu is still proving to be without honor or veracity ---- .

You don't know shit. That could well have been the planned with Trump to catch Iran off guard.

It was just reported that Trump gave Israel bunker buster bombs shortly after taking office. It was Trump that said Iran had a short time to make a deal or else. Or else has arrived.

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Fox just reported that Trump gave Iran 60 days 61 days ago to avoid war.

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I'm under the impression that bunker busters require high altitude heavy bombers to carry those weapons. Does Israel have that capability?

Something else interesting is the videos of Iran don't show heavy AA fire flying into the sky. It doesn't appear that Iran knows where these attacks are coming from.

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Fox just reported that Trump gave Iran 60 days 61 days ago to avoid war.

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Unfortunately, Benjamin Netanyahu is still proving to be without honor or veracity ---- .

How so?
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Now the US and Israel are going to watch closely where Iran launches weapons from for targeting.

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Iran is gonna get their asses kicked.

I wish that were the case, but it is not.  The USA has forced Israel to resort to a whack-a-mole strategy.  So, Israel kills a handful of Iranians, almost all tied to the war machine or nuclear machine in Iran, and by the next day, there will be men to replace those targeted.   This insanity has gone on long enough.

I believe the 80/20 rule applies to just about everything in life.  In the case of Israel's attack on Iran, it does not fit in either bucket of the 80/20 rule.  When all is said and done, about 0.0001 percent of Iran's population will be terminated.  This lethality is a non event.  This solves nothing, ends nothing. 

I would like to see genuine peace in the middle east, and particularly for our ally Israel, who has been fighting multiple groups of mussies for 80+ years.  And because the USA has allowed the infiltration into the USA of millions of mussies from all the hostile islamic countries that want to see Israel and the USA destroyed, they are embedded in every branch of government, and they are having their impact.  When it comes to the genocidal mussies, our nation goes out of its way to not offend the genocidal maniacs.

If you want peace in the middle east, Iran has to be destroyed not to the 20 level, but to the 80 level.  80% of its population eliminated, 80% of its assets destroyed.  Then, and only then will we see peace in the middle east.  When will that day come?  I believe it will not come until the Iranians discharge a nuclear weapon on Israeli lands.  Then Israel will retaliate with such force to kill almost all Iranians.  And between now and that moment in time in the future, many innocent people will die.

This is not that moment in time.

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Tabriz refinery hit.
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JUST IN 🔴🔴

A massive explosion has occurred at a refinery in Tabriz, northwest Iran.

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CCTV footage showing the initial strikes by Israel against the Iranian capital of Tehran
https://rumble.com/v6upjlx-cctv-footage-showing-the-initial-strikes-by-israel-against-the-iranian-capi.html

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Incoming missile at Israel reported
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CCTV footage showing the initial strikes by Israel against the Iranian capital of Tehran
https://rumble.com/v6upjlx-cctv-footage-showing-the-initial-strikes-by-israel-against-the-iranian-capi.html

There is no AA being fired into the sky in that video. That strongly suggests Iran had no idea where those strikes were coming from.

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🚨 Breaking: Head of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) confirms that Iran's Natanz uranium enrichment site has been completely destroyed
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🚨 Breaking: Head of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) confirms that Iran's Natanz uranium enrichment site has been completely destroyed
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Never seen a military operation like this

If reports are accurate, a complete decapitation strike

Targeted assassinations of the entire General Staff
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How could he know that?

Maybe he has people on the ground there that report to him.
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Right_in_Virginia...

Unfortunately, Benjamin Netanyahu is still proving to be without honor or veracity ---- .


Seriously?  He is a leader of a nation besieged on all sides, with those neighbors' mission in life the complete destruction of his nation and the death of every Jew.

The tea and crumpets Whack-a-mole strategy he has been forced to live with, or should I say Israel has been forced to live with is intolerable, idiotic, insane, etc  Pick the word, for none of it makes sense.

Unless Israel turns Iran into ruble like Gaza is mostly at present, then the hundreds of sorties are a band-aid, and will not dampen the mindset of the Iranians.

I say total annihilation of Gaza and Iran and anything less and we have another October 7th coming or worse, one or more nuclear weapons detonated on Israel, or perhaps the USA.

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Hopefully, Iran will need to import oil this year and next.

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Hopefully, Iran will need to import oil this year and next.

If you want to cripple Iran, take out their refineries.  You will see oil prices go down while gasoline prices go up.
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Bret Baier said he spoke to Trump and that the US was aware of Israels plans and that it wasn't a surprise. And that Trump repeated that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

So much for RiV's claims...

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Bret Baier said he spoke to Trump and that the US was aware of Israels plans and that it wasn't a surprise. And that Trump repeated that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

So much for RiV's claims...

She has a habit of spitting out the first lie that pops up in her head without thinking.  Now what to do?  Damn that Trump!
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Bret Baier said he spoke to Trump and that the US was aware of Israels plans and that it wasn't a surprise. And that Trump repeated that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

So much for RiV's claims...

Or, Trump could be engaging in some good old fashioned face saving.   :shrug:




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Seriously?  He is a leader of a nation besieged on all sides, with those neighbors' mission in life the complete destruction of his nation and the death of every Jew.

It's difficult to accept  the mantra that every one of her neighbors is an existential threat to Israel.  Too much energy and international support has been invested in Israel's survival and growth since the 58 year "Six Day War" to sustain the claim of Israel living on the brink of imminent destruction.

And, don't forget:  Not only is Israel the only nuclear power in the Middle East with a massive military presence --- she exists and operates from behind the financial, political and military shield of the world's only superpower.  That's one powerful security blanket.

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The tea and crumpets Whack-a-mole strategy he has been forced to live with, or should I say Israel has been forced to live with is intolerable, idiotic, insane, etc  Pick the word, for none of it makes sense.

I am not convinced the tea and crumpets whack-a-mole strategy is something Israel has been forced to live with. Through the past 10 years I have grown more convinced that this has been Israel's preferred strategy --- buying time, so to speak, to rebalance the demographic realities of the Middle East as she struggles to secure and preserve a solidly Jewish majority in the State of Israel.   

It seems since 1967 Israel's top priorities have been no annexation and no separate Palestinian state.  The PR strategy to maintain both priorities, the American shield, and most of Western Europe for 58 years has been brilliant in its simplicity, flawless in its execution and until October 2023, a success for Israel.




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President Trump Statement

I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them, in the strongest of words, to “just do it,” but no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn’t get it done. I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated, or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come - And they know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliner’s spoke bravely, but they didn’t know what was about to happen. They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse! There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end. Iran must make a deal, before there is nothing left, and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death, no more destruction, JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. God Bless You All!

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Sounds like Israel is our proxy, doesn’t it?
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Clarice Feldman just posted that IAF planes are refueling in Iranian airspace.

A dose of humiliation served.
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Iran Warns Israel Lethal Strikes Are a ‘Declaration of War’

Iran warned Israel on Friday morning lethal strikes on its military and nuclear sites amount to a “declaration of war.”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/06/13/iran-warns-israel-lethal-strikes-are-a-declaration-of-war/
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New details are emerging about Israel’s recent strikes on Iran, and they’re far more devastating than anyone initially realized. According to RedState, the Israeli operation was much larger than first reported, targeting not just military sites but also key infrastructure, including oil refineries and power plants. The fallout? Iran’s retaliation, with 100 drones fired at Israel, has the world on edge. The Right Scoop broke the story, detailing how Iran’s response is a direct counter to Israel’s escalation, and the tension is palpable. For Trump supporters, this is a moment of pride in Israel’s strength; for the rest of us, it’s a terrifying glimpse into a potential regional war. The image above, from the video, shows the night sky lit up by drone trails, a stark reminder of the stakes. It’s racked up over 2 million views, and it’s a story you need to see.



This could really trigger WW3! I can read about upcoming strikes on countries on the other side of the world before they happen, but I still can't find out if my country is really involved or not.
War is so weird now.

https://www.rightjournalism.com/new-details-israel-hit-iran-harder-than-anyone-realized-now-irans-retaliation-has-everyone-terrified/

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 Iran pulls out of nuclear talks with the US
by Elizabeth Crisp - 06/13/25 9:00 AM ET

 Iran no longer plans to engage in nuclear talks with the U.S. that were scheduled to take place in Oman on Sunday, Iranian leaders announced Friday after Israel’s deadly airstrikes targeting the Tehran’s nuclear facilities and military sites.

Oman News Agency and Iranian state media reported that the talks have been suspended indefinitely.

“Israel’s unilateral attack on Iran is illegal, unjustifiable and a grave threat to regional stability,” Oman Foreign Minister Badr Albusaidi posted on the social platform X after the attacks. “I condemn it and urge the global community to come together to reject Israeli aggression and support de-escalation and diplomacy with one voice.”

Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, meanwhile, vowed retribution against its long-standing adversary Israel.

“With this crime, the Zionist regime has set itself up for a bitter and painful fate, and it will receive it,” he said in remarks released through state media.

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/5348689-iran-nuclear-deal-talks-suspended/
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