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Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« on: May 29, 2025, 09:07:48 am »
 Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
by Aris Folley - 05/29/25 6:00 AM ET

Conservative frustrations are boiling over Congress’s lack of action to codify spending cuts pursued by President Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Tech billionaire Elon Musk — who headed up the DOGE effort — made waves this week when he took aim at a sprawling package passed by the House last week to advance Trump’s tax priorities, while raising concerns over the potential deficit impact of the measure.

“I was, like, disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it, and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing,” Musk said in a snippet of an interview with “CBS Sunday Morning” that airs later this week.

His comments add to a growing chorus of complaints made by fiscal hawks in Congress and prominent conservatives outside Capitol Hill in the days since the House’s passage of Trump’s “one big, beautiful bill.”

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), a former congressman, knocked GOP lawmakers on Tuesday in a post on X, while saying Musk took “massive incoming — including attacks on his companies as well as personal smears — to lead the effort on DOGE.”

“To see Republicans in Congress cast aside any meaningful spending reductions (and, in fact, fully fund things like USAID) is demoralizing and represents a betrayal of the voters who elected them,” DeSantis wrote.

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Re: Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2025, 12:46:30 pm »
Count me among the furious! Maybe they need to work more than 136 days a year!
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Re: Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2025, 01:16:01 pm »
I think we need to start suing GOP Congressmen for fraud ... they are not the Conservatives they sold themselves to be.

Put Trump on a $250 bill? - Yup
Put Jesus on a $12 bill? - Yup
Investigations to nowhere? - Yup
Impeachments about nothing? - Yup
Make Biden appear before Congress to finish a Sunday NY Times crossword puzzle? - Yup
Promise to reveal where Elvis Presley has been hiding? - Yup
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Cut Federal Spending? - Nope

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Re: Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2025, 02:45:00 pm »
This is a great big fail.  Elon Musk is going to spend a long time regretting his involvement with DOGE.  Typical for Trump though, he just pisses everyone off and has nothing to show for it.

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Re: Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2025, 08:52:25 am »
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I’ve seen a few claims making the rounds on the Big Beautiful Bill that require correction.

The first is that it doesn’t “codify the DOGE cuts.” A reconciliation bill, which is a budget bill that passes with 50 votes, is limited by senate rules to “mandatory” spending only — eg Medicaid and Food Stamps. The senate rules prevent it from cutting “discretionary” spending — eg the Department of Education or federal grants. The DOGE cuts are overwhelmingly discretionary, not mandatory. The bill saves more than 1.6 TRILLION in mandatory spending, including the largest-ever welfare reform. A remarkable achievement.

I’ve also seen claims the bill increases the deficit. This lie is based on a CBO accounting gimmick. Income tax rates from the 2017 tax cut are set to expire in September. They were always planned to be permanent. CBO says maintaining *current* rates adds to the deficit, but by definition leaving these income tax rates unchanged cannot add one penny to the deficit. The bill’s spending cuts REDUCE the deficit against the current law baseline, which is the only correct baseline to use.

Another fantastically false claim is that the bill spends trillions of dollars. This is just completely invented out of whole cloth. This is not a ten year budget bill—it doesn’t “fund” almost any operations of government, which are funded in the annual budget bills (which this is not). In other words, if this bill passed, but the annual budget bill did not, there would be no government funding. Under the math that critics are using, if we passed a one paragraph reconciliation bill that cut simply 50 billion in food stamp spending, they would say the bill “added” trillions in spending and debt because they are counting ALL the projected federal spending that exists entirely outside the scope of this legislation, which is of course preposterous. The only funding in the bill is for the President’s border and defense priorities, while enacting a net spending cut of over 1.6 TRILLION dollars.

The bill has two fiscal components: a massive tax cut and a massive spending cut.
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Re: Conservative furor grows over future of DOGE cuts
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2025, 10:17:37 am »
What future cuts?  That's why there is a furor.
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