Live Thread- April 9, 2025 Financial News and Updates

[Right_in_Virginia]

[oldno7]

You do realise that it’s American consumers who will ultimately bear the cost of these tariffs, right?

The economic reality is that tariffs are taxes on imports—costs that are typically passed down the supply chain and felt most by everyday citizens through higher prices on goods and services.

In the long term, actions like these erode trust. Countries may still sign deals in the short term, but make no mistake: many will begin actively decoupling from the U.S. because it’s becoming increasingly difficult to see America as a reliable or stable trade partner.

America’s ability to sustain $35 trillion in debt has largely been underpinned by its reputation as a safe, stable place to hold reserves—thanks in part to a strong commitment to free market principles. But when policy decisions start to look impulsive or erratic, that trust begins to unravel.

Yes, nations will continue to engage with the U.S. where they must—but behind the scenes, they’ll start redirecting investment into their own domestic resilience and toward alliances they see as more predictable.

This isn’t just about short-term trade dynamics. It’s about long-term strategic repositioning in a world that’s watching closely.

 This is the only part you got right.
There certainly will be long term repositioning and China won't have a say.(unless war)
Nations cannot redirect investments to other Countries--NO COUNTRY has an economy like ours.
This is erasing 70 years of injustice to US trade, in the long term(although the thought eludes you), USA and all it's trade partners will grow substantially and those trade partners will not look like those of recent decades of abuse.
Yes--strategic repositioning indeed, jump on board or drown.

[Stevensr123]

This is the only part you got right.
There certainly will be long term repositioning and China won't have a say.(unless war)
Nations cannot redirect investments to other Countries--NO COUNTRY has an economy like ours.
This is erasing 70 years of injustice to US trade, in the long term(although the thought eludes you), USA and all it's trade partners will grow substantially and those trade partners will not look like those of recent decades of abuse.
Yes--strategic repositioning indeed, jump on board or drown.

you have contradicted yourself massively here “no country has an economy like ours” -  a “huge injustice has occurred ”.

You have an economy like yours BECAUSE of free market principles, not isolationism. The world and business saw America has the free market economy that underpinned those principles

The world will now start  trading more with others, investing more in themselves and others, allies are going to reduce spending in American military equipment and partner with reliable allies.

Trump is the best thing to happen to china and Europe in the long term.

[DefiantMassRINO]

You can have free fair trade with nations that allow for private capital acivity.

You cannot have fair trade with Government-owned and Government-run economies because they will sell products for less than cost to gain market-share internationally while decimating foreign competitors and industries.

You cannot have fair trade with nations that do not allow for private ownership of intellectual property, and do not enforce copyrights and trademarks.

You cannot have fair trade with a totalitarian communist regime that has weaponized unfair trade practices to steal intellectual property, business practices, and technology to further imperial military ambitions.

There is no such thing as a Chi-com consumer.  Everyone and everything is the property of the state and the Chinese Communist Party.

The myth of "selling to Chinese consumers" and cheap laobor are the lures of the Chinese Communist Party's trap for Western nations, Governments, economies, industries, and companies.

[oldno7]

you have contradicted yourself massively here “no country has an economy like ours” -  a “huge injustice has occurred ”.

You have an economy like yours BECAUSE of free market principles, not isolationism. The world and business saw America has the free market economy that underpinned those principles

The world will now start  trading more with others, investing more in themselves and others, allies are going to reduce spending in American military equipment and partner with reliable allies.

Trump is the best thing to happen to china and Europe in the long term.

 Both things are indeed true.
We would not be 37 trillion in debt if we had a free/fair trade market that the US was on an equal tariff playing field with the world.
That changed--TODAY!

With NEW free trading partners, the National debt has a very good opportunity to be reduced, if not eliminated in a few years.

China will wither up and die--they have signed their own death certificate.

[catfish1957]

3000 point DOW  gain.  Just another day in the USA.

 

Watching and parsing trends in this environment for punditry sucks,   This isn't an econmy......  it's a f__king circus.

[Bigun]

If thats your opinion, you're an idiot.

Trump just played China like a fine tuned piano.

He got them into a % tariff war.

Once it got high enough--125%, he had 70+ countries in line to make trade agreements.

He agreed to set those Countries tariff to 10% for 90 days while deals are struck and kept China at 125%.

Do not deal against Trump.

Now wheres our 4 shiffs to come in and complain about Trump?

 

[Bigun]

Both things are indeed true.
We would not be 37 trillion in debt if we had a free/fair trade market that the US was on an equal tariff playing field with the world.
That changed--TODAY!

With NEW free trading partners, the National debt has a very good opportunity to be reduced, if not eliminated in a few years.

China will wither up and die--they have signed their own death certificate.

Great post! @oldno7  The only thing we need now is to throw the Communist inspired income tax onto the ash heap of history!

[cato potatoe]

3000 point DOW  gain.  Just another day in the USA.

 

Watching and parsing trends in this environment for punditry sucks,   This isn't an econmy......  it's a f__king circus.

Good thing I moved out of cash (partly) on Monday.  Now I wonder if I should liquidate again.     Equities are still too expensive. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Haha well i have friend on facebook Like "market tanked again thanks to trump", of course there's silence when it goes up.

[WhatWouldReaganDo]

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