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Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« on: April 08, 2025, 03:27:48 pm »
Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
Stephen Carbone


While the latest aviation safety issues and accidents over the last few months scare some, to seasoned professionals the aviation tragedies and near misses do not come as a surprise. The only question is: Why did it take so long?

There’s a long list of safety failures in the airline industry. United Airlines B777 plunged to the Pacific during climb in 2023, and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), United, and the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) didn’t investigate it for months. A 265-pound main tire fell off a B777 taking off out of Los Angeles; it fell from over 200 feet — still spinning — into an airport parking lot. The nose tire came off a taxiing B757. Two mechanics were killed when an incorrectly pressurized tire exploded in Atlanta. Most memorable were the Endeavour regional jet that flipped in Toronto, the mid-air collision between a PSA Airlines regional plane and a military helicopter, and an Endeavour regional aircraft that struck a wing during a go-around at La Guardia airport. More such events never made the news or were easily forgotten.

Boeing’s 737-Max was a failure on so many levels. But it wasn’t Boeing’s failure, as people were led to believe. Boeing makes products. Airlines buy these aircraft for technological improvements. It’s solely the airline’s responsibility to properly train their pilots and technicians to operate and maintain the aircraft — not the manufacturer’s.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2025, 04:01:58 pm »
Could be anything but maybe check the demographics of the maintience crews and their supervisors.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2025, 05:00:02 pm »
How many people died in commercial aviation vs. how many people died in automobile accidents?

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2025, 05:05:53 pm »
False premise.  There are relatively few aviation accidents today, compared to 50 years ago, and certainly in comparison to the number of automobile and truck accidents.  Superman was right...

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2025, 05:30:38 pm »
Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?

Gravity.
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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2025, 05:49:01 pm »
Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?

Gravity.
Well, the plane never fails to land. Sometimes, it can even be reused.
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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2025, 06:01:31 pm »
Or it's suddenly fashionable to report them again.  :whistle:
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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2025, 06:17:13 pm »
Sooner or later it all boils down to a fat guy named Lenny in greasy blue coveralls with a red rag hanging out of the back pocket, somewhere out back, eating an Italian Sausage sammich (w/ french fries, dammit - none of them little damn bags of chips).

Walk in the joint. Go ahead. You'll find him.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2025, 06:22:08 pm »
It's like at the parts house or the lumber store... you need the old guy in the plaid shirt with the rolled up sleeves and the half-glasses. Nine times out of ten, his name is Hank.

Look for that guy. Because the whole damn place falls down if Hank ain't there. And I don't care if it's a corner shop or a Home Depot.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Aviation Accidents?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2025, 07:08:52 pm »
The YouTube channels The Flight Channel and Pilot Debrief, among others, analyze aviation mishaps. It seems to me (not a pilot, to say the least) the cause usually is an ignored maintenance issue or pilot error, like drunkenness, incompetence or mental instability.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2025, 07:15:28 pm »
The YouTube channels The Flight Channel and Pilot Debrief, among others, analyze aviation mishaps. It seems to me (not a pilot, to say the least) the cause usually is an ignored maintenance issue or pilot error, like drunkenness, incompetence or mental instability.
I like both of those channels. Hooper (Pilot Debrief) calmly dissects the cause(s) which come together to cause a crash.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2025, 07:37:31 pm »
It's like at the parts house or the lumber store... you need the old guy in the plaid shirt with the rolled up sleeves and the half-glasses. Nine times out of ten, his name is Hank.

Look for that guy. Because the whole damn place falls down if Hank ain't there. And I don't care if it's a corner shop or a Home Depot.

His name is Henry in these parts but otherwise the same.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2025, 07:44:21 pm »
His name is Henry in these parts but otherwise the same.

Here it's usually Larry or Dave, sometimes Steve.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2025, 09:26:32 pm »
Well, the plane never fails to land. Sometimes, it can even be reused.

My flight school instructor, an F-4 pilot in Nam always said ..If you Augur in, notify your next of kin.
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The abnormal is not the normal just because it is prevalent.
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