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Blue State Will Require Credit Card Issuers To Track Ammo Purchases

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By Cullen McCue
April 6, 2025

New York Governor Kathy Hochul last week signed a number of new gun control measures into law, including one that allows credit card companies to track ammunition purchases.

Hochul signed three new laws she claimed will “strengthen New York’s gun violence prevention efforts and keep New Yorkers safe.” The governor is also calling for $370 million in additional funding towards gun control efforts in the state’s upcoming budget plan.

“We’re taking action to drive down gun violence in the State of New York — protecting our communities and making our streets safer,” Hochul said. “Public safety is my number one priority, and by giving law enforcement additional tools to stop gun violence in its tracks, we’re building on our promise to put the safety of New Yorkers first.”

One of the three new gun control measures will require credit and debit card issuers to track ammunition and firearms purchases. Hochul described the ammunition control as one that “[refines] how credit card companies track purchases at gun dealerships.”

“This gives law enforcement the opportunity to find out exactly who may be stockpiling ammunition. And this is an indicator that something untoward could be happening, so it’s an important data point for us to have,” the governor added.

Under the new law, firearms and ammunition retailers will be required to use a new merchant code “by ensuring that it captures retailers whose bulk sales come from firearms, ammunition and firearms accessories,” Hochul’s office announced in a press release.

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Re: Blue State Will Require Credit Card Issuers To Track Ammo Purchases
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2025, 06:24:22 pm »
Obviously this is more like the Soviet Union or North Korea. It is a blatant 'totalitarian' edit. It is intended to monitor both the seller and the buyer of ammo. However, there are so many ways around it.

Pay with cash
Pay with a debit card
Pay with a gift card
Buy on the black market
Buy in a different nearby State ... more

All this will do is it will drive ammunition sales out of New York and into surrounding areas.
But, elitist far-Left Liberal totalitarians are way too STUPID to know this.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2025, 06:43:36 pm »
I'm pretty sure States don't have the power to do this.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2025, 06:52:46 pm »
I'm pretty sure States don't have the power to do this.
We need a District Judge in Guam to overrule it. (unconstitutional)

If they can overrule POTUS, then overruling a governor should be like telling a child, 'No!'
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2025, 07:12:24 pm »
I'm pretty sure States don't have the power to do this.

On what basis?

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2025, 12:38:04 am »
On what basis?

Because it's an enumerated right in the Constitution, and it's basically a back door way to create a gun registry, which in turn will create a chilling effect on interstate commerce of ammo which no State had the unilateral right to do.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2025, 12:50:06 am »
Gun powder can be traced, do you mix up your out of state purchases containers so they have 50 odds and ends bullets to trace?

Yes, I understand from a shooter's perspective this is not good for accuracy.
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Re: Blue State Will Require Credit Card Issuers To Track Ammo Purchases
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2025, 01:32:12 pm »
Because it's an enumerated right in the Constitution, and it's basically a back door way to create a gun registry, which in turn will create a chilling effect on interstate commerce of ammo which no State had the unilateral right to do.

A standard sales tax on ammunition would have the same end result, and last I checked, the second amendment doesn’t prevent application of the sales tax.  So very unlikely that a mere reporting requirement will, particularly if it can be avoided by paying cash.

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Re: Blue State Will Require Credit Card Issuers To Track Ammo Purchases
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2025, 05:56:04 pm »
As I mentioned in a post elsewhere in the forum, Connecticut already requires an ammo buyer to present a state-issued firearms card ... even if no actual weapons purchase is involved.

I don't know whether the gun shop just "looks at" the card, or if they're required to "record" it in some way (such as swipe a bar code on it), to register the purchase with the state.

But such things are "already here", at least in CT ...

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2025, 09:52:33 am »
A standard sales tax on ammunition would have the same end result, and last I checked, the second amendment doesn’t prevent application of the sales tax.  So very unlikely that a mere reporting requirement will, particularly if it can be avoided by paying cash.

That apples and oranges comparison is not even an intellectually credible argument. We are talking about directly tracking people in a de facto gun registry while at the same time trying to enact gun control via people limiting the purchase of guns so as to not appear on that registry.

A sales tax has no similarity to that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2025, 10:21:22 am »
... and abortion pill purchases?

If we're going to have private financial institutions acting as agents of the Government, let's go all in on invading everyone's privacy and violating everyone's 4th Amendment protections.
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Re: Blue State Will Require Credit Card Issuers To Track Ammo Purchases
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2025, 11:55:15 am »
That apples and oranges comparison is not even an intellectually credible argument. We are talking about directly tracking people in a de facto gun registry while at the same time trying to enact gun control via people limiting the purchase of guns so as to not appear on that registry.

A sales tax has no similarity to that.

A sales tax definitely has comparative value.  The second amendment does not prevent a state from monitoring or registering ammunition sales.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2025, 11:55:42 am »
... and abortion pill purchases?

If we're going to have private financial institutions acting as agents of the Government, let's go all in on invading everyone's privacy and violating everyone's 4th Amendment protections.

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2025, 12:33:03 pm »
A sales tax definitely has comparative value.  The second amendment does not prevent a state from monitoring or registering ammunition sales.

You mean the courts haven't prohibited it yet, which is why states like New York are trying to use it to make an end run around the 2nd.
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