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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2025, 04:14:20 pm »
Article II, Section 1

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.


Article III

Section 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2025, 12:23:20 pm »
Article III

Section 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

“You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.... Their power [is] the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.”

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2025, 12:29:44 pm »
That judge should play the Powerball lotto.  Cuz he is one lucky Sumbitch.
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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2025, 06:38:03 pm »
Methinks that Kamaji doth protest too much on this issue...

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2025, 06:58:27 pm »
“You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.... Their power [is] the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.”

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In the context of a particular case or controversy, Jefferson was simply wrong.  It is precisely the provenance of the courts to say what the law is, to apply that law to the facts before them, and to draw out the consequences of that application. 

Tough shit.  Maybe you should learn a little bit about the Constitution and the law. 

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2025, 07:00:14 pm »
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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2025, 10:33:59 am »

In the context of a particular case or controversy, Jefferson was simply wrong.  It is precisely the provenance of the courts to say what the law is, to apply that law to the facts before them, and to draw out the consequences of that application. 

Tough shit.  Maybe you should learn a little bit about the Constitution and the law.

You know more about the Constitution than Thomas Jefferson did?

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2025, 10:35:56 am »
You know more about the Constitution than Thomas Jefferson did?

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2025, 10:39:51 am »
Methinks that Kamaji doth protest too much on this issue...

He's a member of the brotherhood of the bar so why would you expect anything else?
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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2025, 10:41:48 am »
He's a member of the brotherhood of the bar so why would you expect anything else?

What? SO he worked as a bartender like AOC?
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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2025, 11:51:18 am »
Nobody is infallible, not even you.

I'm not claiming to be smarter than Thomas Jefferson who was arguably the smartest American who ever lived.

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Re: President rips federal judge just given '4th Trump case'
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2025, 06:03:47 pm »
Bigun wrote (about another member):
"He's a member of the brotherhood of the bar so why would you expect anything else?"

I've always suspected that, but don't recall him ever having said as much.
I was going to mention it as a part of my post, but didn't want to make an unsubstantiated accusation.