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I never saw Old Yeller or True Grit.   :shrug:

Well, sit back, pop up some popcorn, have a beer and catch up on some classics.  Both are great movies, but IMHO the original True Grit with John Wayne is the best version.


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Tribute To John Wayne - Glen Campbell Sings "True Grit"


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Sort of like The Yearling. Both movie and book. I think those types of movies are too real for today's audiences no matter how good the storyteller.

That's right - But that's exactly what I am talking about.

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Yeah, but there is more than that... A 'life ain't fair' thing... a 'bad things can happen to good folks' thing. A 'life goes on thing... There's a lot of cope in it.

It's a weird thing. A storyteller has always made the story his own. I can imagine some sort of embellishment happening along the way... But there is a framework in the story that must remain... almost a sacred thing.

Look at something more ancient - The story of Arthur and the Round Table, and all of that. You can see embellishment through its iterations, but the framework of the story remains true. The Grail stuff is all a latter addition... but it falls neatly along the lines of the original framework, and thus does the story no harm.

It's weird, I know. I don't have it sussed out... but a storyteller has the art of embellishment without changing the story. That thing is what Disney has lost. Lost utterly and entirely.
In that case, Disney lost it from the git-go. If it wasn't a completely original story, they changed it, and who knows what mutations occurred to their original stuff. They once were propagandists for US, during WWII, for instance, then somewhere became propagandists for all the Leftist crap imaginable, which is the road they are well down now.

America ain't buying what they're selling, plain and simple.

I'm no prude, but even their superheroes have become twisted, potty mouthed caricatures of the genre. Nothing they have touched has retained its integrity since Vietnam.
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Well, sit back, pop up some popcorn, have a beer and catch up on some classics.  Both are great movies, but IMHO the original True Grit with John Wayne is the best version.
Well, if you're gonna watch The Duke, watch The Cowboys, too.
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I love the "Duke" and there's just no one that could ever replace him.  I guess I am the odd person out here, I like the original "True Grit" better than the remake.
Me, too. The remake was passable, though, just not the same.
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I never saw Old Yeller or True Grit.   :shrug:
Can't say I ever saw either version of True Grit, but my grandfather introduced me to Old Yeller and those Buena Vista movies as a kid.

A few years ago, when Disney+ first launched, I introduced my nieces and nephews to it. They guessed the ending within a few minutes. I still made them wait to find out if they were right. "Does the dog die?" "You've gotta watch to find out!"
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Well, if you're gonna watch The Duke, watch The Cowboys, too.



I have never forgiven Bruce Dern! :laugh:

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In 1937, Disney began sanitizing fairy stories for children.
Now, they sanitize them for adults — contorting folkloric stories to fit modern politics...

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They would have likely done better to re-release the original cartoon.
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They would have likely done better to re-release the original cartoon.
Absolutely they would have done better. No question about it. And the cost would have been $0.
But Disney does not care about 'making money'. They are in business to push an agenda.
An agenda nobody wants.
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Have we ever had a remake that is superior to the original?

Can someone find a list to see?



The following came to mind, and progressively got better for me except the last listed movie version.





MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY OR BOUNTY  -  I would say with each remake, it became a better movie, excluding the last version
                                                            listed, which is a complete unknown to me


1916    George Cross, John Storm     did not know this one was made, haven't seen it>  But we know it was a silent film,
                                                      so, how good can it be?   Any one see it?

1935    Charles Laughton, Clark Gable   I have seen it, both were very good in the black and white movie

1962    Trevor Howard, Marlon Brando   Saw it when it came out in the theater.  Liked it, even more than the Gable version.
                                                          Made in color, with great cinematography

1984    Anthony Hopkins, Mel Gibson   Saw it in the theater.  Loved it.  I enjoyed it more than the Brando movie.  I thought it
                                                        was more realistic.  Plus at the time, Gibson was a hot actor like the two above, but
                                                        more in my day.

2011    Mark Chinnery, Steve Ryan       Anyone here see it?  I did not know it was even made.  And who are these actors?
                                                         B or C production perhaps?  Was it funded by USAID and these are black actors
                                                         from Somalia?  Really!  Again, did not know it was even made!!!!!
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Heads should roll at Disney but they won’t:  And no one on the board with any entertainment experience to counter Iger.

That may appear to be the way things are at Disney, but in fact, Warren Buffett/Berkshire Hathaway owns Disney and ABC.   And if you know him, he has one focus, make money.

He is a woke liberal, he was the puppet master for one Barrack Obama.  Remember that pipeline that both Obama and Biden ENDED?  Guess who owns the railroads that transport the raw oil from the ground in Canada to the southern USA for refining?  Yes, Buffett. 

So when you hear the idiot hypocrites of the Democommie Party screaming about Trump taking care of billionaires, well, that just does not have legs.


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They would have likely done better to re-release the original cartoon.
Absolutely.  Classic films should be shown on the very big screen in one of those classic old theaters. I saw Casablanca that way several years ago, and it was magnificent.
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