Author Topic: "Canada will be implementing 25% tariffs against $155 billion worth of American goods  (Read 5905 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,496
LP, Weyerhauser, Stone Container... All the monster companies that had the mills are divested or gone. lumber mills, the plywood mills, the paper mills, all the jippo mills are gone. All the logging trucks are gone. All the cats and skidders...All the road construction crews, the bridge construction crews, the sawyers, the surveyors...
It ain't just a matter of opening up the sales anymore.

Offline IsailedawayfromFR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,888
The only winning move is for both sides to remove tariffs.
Bingo.  That is the point about tariffs to counter unfair tariffs.  It is a negotiation.

Lost among the ignorant
“You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing.” Thomas Sowell

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,496
Bingo.  That is the point about tariffs to counter unfair tariffs.  It is a negotiation.

Lost among the ignorant

Dead wrong.
Unfair tariffs are made null by opening new sources for products from elsewhere - Preferably in-country.

It's called competition. And it works.

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,272
  • Gender: Male
Dead wrong.
Unfair tariffs are made null by opening new sources for products from elsewhere - Preferably in-country.

It's called competition. And it works.

No...you are dead wrong.  Competition works only when the playing field is level.  I hate tariffs too, but you've gone off the rails,  Especially in sourcing.  Relying on alternate souring applies when it is feasible.  Say there was a item A, that cost $1, and yeah that same item may only be available in Location B at a coat $100, 5000 miles away. Then slap a $99 tariff?   I don't what fairy tale land you are living at, but predatory select tariff-age is and can be a  way of life in trade situations, especially when dealing with so called partner who isn't  managing that partnership in good faith.  And what Canada has done to our dairy, is predatory in deference to their own industry. Your endorsement of us basically subsidizing the trade imbalance is downright crazy. Maybe your near location to Canada influences that thought.

The best way is to outlaw them all together, and let the free markerts dictate.  However, the likes of Canada has fired the first 2 or 3 salvos, and your admoninshment of Trump for trying to level the playing field is downright silly.  Let's see of Canada responds smartly, and we can discuss this matter again in a few weeks or months. 
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,496
No...you are dead wrong. 


No,most certainly I am not.

Quote
Competition works only when the playing field is level. 


Find a different playing field. preferably in-country. If they are too proud f their sh*t, let em keep it.

Quote
I hate tariffs too, but you've gone off the rails,  Especially in sourcing.  Relying on alternate souring applies when it is feasible. [...] isn't  managing that partnership in good faith. 



Then find another partner. This ain't rocket science.

Quote
And what Canada has done to our dairy, is predatory in deference to their own industry.

It ain't quite that simple. And dairy is a bad example, as I have already explained. Many places here protect their dairy too. Dairy is also an expendable commodity that has to pass stringent inspection and many countries oppose additives that are added to our food stuffs. To include dairy. Now... I am not well-versed in the ins and outs of that subject.

Quote
Your endorsement of us basically subsidizing the trade imbalance is downright crazy. Maybe your near location to Canada influences that thought.


Who is subsidizing? Not me. I am saying if you want competition, get off your ass and create it. If you don't have a fair playing field then go find another.

Quote
The best way is to outlaw them all together, and let the free markerts dictate. 


Well, there ya go.

Quote
However, the likes of Canada has fired the first 2 or 3 salvos, and your admoninshment of Trump for trying to level the playing field is downright silly.  Let's see of Canada responds smartly, and we can discuss this matter again in a few weeks or months.

He may have single-handedly assured that Trudy WON'T step down... So good luck with that. Piss everybody off for no reason. He could have shut his pie hole and let the azzhole step down... He could have pumped up Alberta and Saskatchewan ties, and made mention of the trucker's strike. That alignment and remembrance alone would have put Trudy right behind the eightball without aggressive action against the People.

It's all bullshit. And I will bet you any money that the lumber industry - Which far outstrips dairy for Pete's sake - I will bet you it remains destroyed in four years. Battleship mouth and a rowboat ass. If he meant it, the lumber is what he'd be doing. Leaning into cross-border industries... reducing restriction and binding ties.

Instead he throws sh*tballs at a defrocked and leaving idiot. Juvenile hi-jinx, not statesmanship.
And I would think you would know the difference - In fact you do, because you uttered it perfectly right in your reply. You said the answer.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2025, 01:13:34 am by roamer_1 »

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,272
  • Gender: Male
Timber?  I own timber land.  There is not, nor will there ever be a shortage.   Don't use that as an example. 

We'll just have to agree to disagree.  But still find it strange, you have no problem in letting Canada conduct a 5:1 leverage on tariffs, and we just now respond.  I prefer not subsidizing the Canucks, but that's just me.   
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Online jafo2010

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,117
  • Dems-greatest existential threat to USA republic!
The playing field ahs never been level.  And I agree with Trump.  He intends to level the filed.  I applaud him for his efforts.

The USA, the ever purveyors of free trade, have tolerated something other than fair trade for free trade.  I say put the screws to the nations that practice unfair trade, and that includes Canada and Mexico.

In my view, the USA is the 100ft tree, and Canada is the growth coming out from the trunk like a fungus.  Trump needs to continue to put his foot down on these clowns.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,979
  • Gender: Male
Every time I see "Re: "Canada will be impl..." on the main category page, my mind immediately thinks "imploding"..."Implying".

Never "implementing".
:laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline Lando Lincoln

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,299
  • Gender: Male
Does anyone have a source that itemizes tariff detail before this recent dust-up?  I’m looking for tariff rates Canada imposes for dairy (as an example).  Maybe I need coffee but I can’t seem to find the information. I thought it would be easy.

Coffee, yes.
There are some among us who live in rooms of experience we can never enter.
John Steinbeck

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,496
Timber?  I own timber land.  There is not, nor will there ever be a shortage.   Don't use that as an example. 


That's funny... because out here we were paying over $50 bucks a sheet for plywood that ought to cost $12. White pine at 12 bucks a stick where they ought to cost two. In the mean time Canadian lumber goes to Asia and the raw logs wait in the forest in the Rockies or burn. Those shortages would never be able to happen with the vast reserves available in the Rockies.

Quote
We'll just have to agree to disagree.  But still find it strange, you have no problem in letting Canada conduct a 5:1 leverage on tariffs, and we just now respond.  I prefer not subsidizing the Canucks, but that's just me.

I have never said I like it. Hell, I am the only one speaking of a solution. But all y'all would rather throw sh*t balls. That's the Tumpian answer to everything.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2025, 01:25:51 pm by roamer_1 »

Online Weird Tolkienish Figure

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,992
That's funny... because out here we were paying over $50 bucks a sheet for plywood that ought to cost $12. White pine at 12 bucks a stick where they ought to cost two. In the mean time Canadian lumber goes to Asia and the raw logs wait in the forest in the Rockies or burn. Those shortages would never be able to happen with the vast reserves available in the Rockies.

I have never said I like it. Hell, I am the only one speaking of a solution. But all y'all would rather throw sh*t balls. That's the Tumpian answer to everything.

 :thumbsup: