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 O’Malley: DOGE cuts could soon trigger Social Security system ‘collapse’
by Ailia Zehra - 03/03/25 3:24 PM ET

Martin O’Malley, the former commissioner of the Social Security Administration (SSA), said Monday the recent cuts made by tech billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) at the agency could result in the “collapse” of the Social Security system “within the next 30 to 90 days.”

Malley, a Democrat who also served as Maryland governor from 2007-15, told CNBC the recent DOGE initiatives may jeopardize monthly benefit payments for over 72.5 million Americans.

He warned the current administration’s attempts to reduce the workforce will lead to the departure of vital staff and threaten the agency’s fundamental operations.

“Ultimately, you’re going to see the system collapse and an interruption of benefits,” he said. “I believe you will see that within the next 30 to 90 days.”

Warning of these interruptions, Malley said, “people should start saving now.”

Malley held the position of Social Security commissioner from December 2023 to November 2024 under the Biden administration.

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SS was always designed to collapse.  It will.  But not today. Not because of Trump.
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And monkeys could fly out your butt, O'Malley.
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SS was always designed to collapse.  It will.  But not today. Not because of Trump.
Ponzi schemes always do
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FDR's folly?  I don't think so.

When the Social Security program was launched, it was modeled after the German Railroad Pension Program.  The age for retirement and collecting was set at 65.  The average life expectancy was 59 at the time, so the average person would not collect a dime.

But anti-biotics were launched shortly after, and it played a key role in prolonging life.  And then the dummies in Washington introduced early retirement at age 62 when the average life expectancy had stretched out to years beyond that. 

And then, the thieves in Washington, in their infinite wisdom, began raiding the Social Security Fund and leaving I.O.U.s.  And at the same time, folks like Sen Dole and others took credit for resolving the problem with Social Security with a huge tax increase.  But here we are again, and guess what, it was not solved.

Now, they claim it will blow up in the 30s at some point, and they do nothing.  NOTHING!!!!  Congress should not get a pension when key problems are left unresolved. 

End collecting Social Security at 62 or any age prior to the Full Retirement Age of 67.  For everyone under age 50, move FRA to age 70. 

And the time has come to start a new program, where dollars flowing into the new accounts go into accounts in the name of the future recipient, and cannot be touched until age 67.  Start at a rate of 1%, and increase it an additional 1% every other year, until the person is up to 10%.  Continue with the existing tax structure until the number of recipients begin to dwindle to warrant the lowering of the rate.  Eventually, only the new program will exist, and the current Social Security Tax is phased out.  And then, the thieves in Washington can no longer steal a person's private account.

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FDR's folly?  I don't think so.

When the Social Security program was launched, it was modeled after the German Railroad Pension Program.  The age for retirement and collecting was set at 65.  The average life expectancy was 59 at the time, so the average person would not collect a dime.

But anti-biotics were launched shortly after, and it played a key role in prolonging life.  And then the dummies in Washington introduced early retirement at age 62 when the average life expectancy had stretched out to years beyond that. 

And then, the thieves in Washington, in their infinite wisdom, began raiding the Social Security Fund and leaving I.O.U.s.  And at the same time, folks like Sen Dole and others took credit for resolving the problem with Social Security with a huge tax increase.  But here we are again, and guess what, it was not solved.

Now, they claim it will blow up in the 30s at some point, and they do nothing.  NOTHING!!!!  Congress should not get a pension when key problems are left unresolved. 

End collecting Social Security at 62 or any age prior to the Full Retirement Age of 67.  For everyone under age 50, move FRA to age 70. 

And the time has come to start a new program, where dollars flowing into the new accounts go into accounts in the name of the future recipient, and cannot be touched until age 67.  Start at a rate of 1%, and increase it an additional 1% every other year, until the person is up to 10%.  Continue with the existing tax structure until the number of recipients begin to dwindle to warrant the lowering of the rate.  Eventually, only the new program will exist, and the current Social Security Tax is phased out.  And then, the thieves in Washington can no longer steal a person's private account.
all true, and I'll add the policing of recipients needs to be rigid as freeloaders are feasting off the backs of others for years, as DOGE in a few short weeks have exposed
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If anything, the DOGE cuts will HELP Social Security by exposing and removing fraudulent recipients.

And how about doing something more, Mr. Musk & Co.?
That is:
FORCE THE EMPLOYEES of the SSA to COME BACK TO WORK AT THE OFFICE, and face the citizens who they're supposed to serve.

The last time I was at the local SSA office, it looked like the only "workers" there were -- the security guards who wouldn't let you into the office ... presumably to discover that there was no one inside...

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How many of those Government employees could be replaced by automation?

Goverment should not be a job bank for Dem Government Employee Union members.
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How, tell us how and provide evidence.
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Trying to figure out deleting fraud like paying benefits to 150 year olds is going make the system collapse.  /s
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FDR's folly?  I don't think so.

When the Social Security program was launched, it was modeled after the German Railroad Pension Program.  The age for retirement and collecting was set at 65.  The average life expectancy was 59 at the time, so the average person would not collect a dime.

But anti-biotics were launched shortly after, and it played a key role in prolonging life.  And then the dummies in Washington introduced early retirement at age 62 when the average life expectancy had stretched out to years beyond that. 

And then, the thieves in Washington, in their infinite wisdom, began raiding the Social Security Fund and leaving I.O.U.s.  And at the same time, folks like Sen Dole and others took credit for resolving the problem with Social Security with a huge tax increase.  But here we are again, and guess what, it was not solved.

Now, they claim it will blow up in the 30s at some point, and they do nothing.  NOTHING!!!!  Congress should not get a pension when key problems are left unresolved. 

End collecting Social Security at 62 or any age prior to the Full Retirement Age of 67.  For everyone under age 50, move FRA to age 70. 

And the time has come to start a new program, where dollars flowing into the new accounts go into accounts in the name of the future recipient, and cannot be touched until age 67.  Start at a rate of 1%, and increase it an additional 1% every other year, until the person is up to 10%.  Continue with the existing tax structure until the number of recipients begin to dwindle to warrant the lowering of the rate.  Eventually, only the new program will exist, and the current Social Security Tax is phased out.  And then, the thieves in Washington can no longer steal a person's private account.
all myths.
 The average life expectancy was driven by reduced CHILD mortality, meaning the increase led to MORE people paying into the system (the Baby Boomers), leading to the system having a huge surplus in the 90s that balanced or budget.

And that surplus was borrowed against, then paid back with interest at market rates, ADDING to the fund balance with general funds. We've been propping the system up with general tax revenue and borrowing ("interest on the debt") for decades.
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In other words, millennials and Gen Z not having enough children are doing more to kill Socialist Security than anything. But tell them that, and you'll get screamed at.
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Trying to figure out deleting fraud like paying benefits to 150 year olds is going make the system collapse.  /s

Right. IF anything DOGE will cut out the fraud and funneling of $$  from SS and return it to function as it should.

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SS was always designed to collapse.  It will.  But not today. Not because of Trump.

Participation should have been optional from the beginning.  The tax rate would be higher on those who were dumb enough to participate, but the middle class would be able to enjoy a comfortable retirement just by indexing.