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By Isaac Schorr
NY Post (Feb. 19, 2025)
https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/opinion/trump-risks-repeating-bidens-afghanistan-disaster-by-appeasing-putin/

If Donald Trump acts on the sentiments he expressed this week, he is poised to usher in a dark new world order and blow up his own legacy.

After speaking with Vladimir Putin last week, Trump proclaimed that Russia would keep some of the Ukrainian territory it has taken by force because it “took a lot of land, and they fought for that land, and they lost a lot of soldiers.”

If that’s to be the United States’ guiding principle going forward, what murderous psychopath with designs on its neighbors wouldn’t start a war in the years to come?

“You’ve [Ukraine] been there for three years, you should have ended it three years-, You should have never started it, you could have made a deal,” he insisted.

The logical fallacies and outright lies are hard to enumerate in full.

Volodymyr Zelensky’s approval rating stands at 57%.

The passive voice betrays Trump’s unwillingness to acknowledge that Russia is responsible for every bit of the destruction he laments.

And his whining about how Ukraine “should never have started” the war is based upon a false premise so glaring as to insult the intelligence of all that had to hear it.

Putin launched an unprovoked, eliminationist war in 2022; and his regime has committed countless atrocities in the years since — to include the systematic kidnapping of children and torture of enemy combatants.

He alone bears the blame for the chaos and suffering his actions have yielded.

Yet on Tuesday, Trump let Putin off the hook while shaming his victims.

His words alone will mar his legacy, but following through on them would utterly destroy it.

After all, the “Art of the Deal” author should know that he’s committed a strategic sin as well as a moral one.

If peace is his heart’s truest desire, the president should be trying to put pressure on Putin to agree to one favorable to American interests.

Instead, he’s furnished the despot with considerable leverage to demand concessions from the Ukrainians that would not only weaken their position, but the United States’ moving forward.

With America’s help, Zelensky and his people have fought bravely, humiliated Putin, and deterred other global tyrants from wreaking havoc.

Why would Trump seek to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at such a moment?

His flirtation with disaster is particularly galling in light of the lessons he should have learned from his predecessor, whom he regards as “the worst president in the history of America.”

Joe Biden’s presidency collapsed in on itself after he surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban, and in so doing invited evil actors in Moscow, Tehran, and Gaza to march.

Should Trump abandon the Ukrainians now, he will inspire a similar response from America’s enemies and be remembered for the same fecklessness for which Biden is reviled....




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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2025, 06:28:13 pm »
YAWN
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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2025, 06:29:59 pm »
YAWN

That's probably what they said in 1939 too  ... "Hitler is invading Poland, big deal" ...

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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2025, 06:31:43 pm »
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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2025, 06:38:19 pm »
How about -

Japan is invading Manchuria ... "Big deal, it doesn't affect us" ...

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"Don't give fires a chance to grow" ... wasn't that the lesson in Pacific Palisades?

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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2025, 07:00:59 pm »
Bigger than that.

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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2025, 11:36:20 pm »
Using the word moral in the same sentence with Trump.  Now that is a hoot.  He is an amoral man.

Blaming the war in Ukraine on Ukraine, now that is about as idiotic as one can get.  Either Trump has a screw loose, or he is playing one of his madcap games.  In any case, I do not see what he hopes to gain.

So far, let's see, he hasn't ended the war in 24 hours.  Not in 24 days either.  At the rate he is going, not 24 weeks either.

As he manages to piss off every person on the path of life, excluding his new budinsky Musk, he will find gridlock is the only serving on his plate.  As it stands, he has pissed off enough in Congress that he will not see his one big beautiful bill now, will he?

Some of you thrive on the drama, I am sick of it.  Everything he is doing will be undone.  Neither the courts or Congress will take steps to make permanent anything he is doing.  And him and his new bro, I give them one year and they will not be able to stand each other.

I thought the comment by Musk's kid to Trump was very revealing.  That kind of thing happened to me once, where I said something derogatory, and my idiot 4 year old went and repeated it.  If I had to guess, Elon said something derogatory about Trump, the kid heard it, and he thought he would tell Trump to shut up.  Boy can I relate to that!

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Re: Trump risks repeating Biden’s Afghanistan disaster by appeasing Putin
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2025, 04:46:55 am »

Some of you thrive on the drama, I am sick of it.  Everything he is doing will be undone.  Neither the courts or Congress will take steps to make permanent anything he is doing.  And him and his new bro, I give them one year and they will not be able to stand each other.


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