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In a bold move to streamline government operations and eliminate wasteful spending, President Trump has empowered Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to utilize cutting-edge artificial intelligence (AI) technology. This initiative is rapidly identifying and addressing inefficiencies across various federal agencies, delivering on the administration’s promise to enhance governmental effectiveness.



DOGE and Musk have stirred up major controversy, and the left is pulling their hair out as they watch themselves get relentlessly exposed for prioritizing virtually every woke cause you can think of instead of the daily lives of regular Americans.

https://redstatenation.com/so-thats-how-doge-exposes-government-waste-so-fast-elons-secret-weapon-revealed/

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So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2025, 10:50:59 am »
by Matt Vespa
Townhall.com (Feb. 7, 2025)
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/02/06/so-doge-is-using-ai-to-find-spending-cuts-n2651794


The Washington Post had an interesting article about how Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency crew were weeding out the waste that’s engulfed the capital. I don’t know if the Post was trying to cast this off as creepy—I think it’s cool: the DOGE crew is using artificial intelligence to find spending cuts (via WaPo):


Representatives from Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service have fed sensitive data from across the Education Department into artificial intelligence software to probe the agency’s programs and spending, according to two people with knowledge of the DOGE team’s actions.

The AI probe includes data with personally identifiable information for people who manage grants, as well as sensitive internal financial data, the two people said.

The DOGE team is using AI software accessed through Microsoft’s cloud computing service Azure to pore through every dollar of money the department disburses, from contracts to grants to work trip expenses, one of the people said. Lower level department staffers were directed by agency leadership to let Musk’s teams access the sensitive financial data, the person said.

The use of AI inside the Department of Education, which has not previously been reported, shows how Musk’s group, which includes former employees from his tech empire, is tapping the favorite tool of Silicon Valley as part of its mission to drastically slash the size and functions of the federal government.



If this is being weaponized to screw over the political class, trim the fat from government, and expose the waste and corruption as we’ve seen over the past few weeks, then so be it. Keep feeding that AI machine, which we’ll call Skynet but without the genocidal tendencies....
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2025, 11:07:54 am »
Outstanding article exploring the preparation and execution of what we have witnessed DOGE doing over the past 2 weeks.
Worth the time to read



OVERRIDE
INSIDE THE REVOLUTION REWIRING AMERICAN POWER
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The clock struck 2 AM on Jan 21, 2025.
In Treasury's basement, fluorescent lights hummed above four young coders. Their screens cast blue light across government-issue desks, illuminating energy drink cans and agency badges. As their algorithms crawled through decades of payment data, one number kept growing: $17 billion in redundant programs. And counting.

"We're in," Akash Bobba messaged the team. "All of it."

Edward Coristine's code had already mapped three subsystems. Luke Farritor's algorithms were tracing payment flows across agencies. Ethan Shaotran's analysis revealed patterns that career officials didn't even know existed. By dawn, they would understand more about Treasury's operations than people who had worked there for decades.

This wasn't a hack. This wasn't a breach. This was authorized disruption.

While career bureaucrats prepared orientation packets and welcome memos, DOGE's team was already deep inside the payment systems. No committees. No approvals. No red tape. Just four coders with unprecedented access and algorithms ready to run.

"The beautiful thing about payment systems," noted a transition official watching their screens, "is that they don't lie. You can spin policy all day long, but money leaves a trail."

That trail led to staggering discoveries. Programs marked as independent revealed coordinated funding streams. Grants labeled as humanitarian aid showed curious detours through complex networks. Black budgets once shrouded in secrecy began to unravel under algorithmic scrutiny.

By 6 AM, Treasury's career officials began arriving for work. They found systems they thought impenetrable already mapped. Networks they believed hidden already exposed. Power structures built over decades revealed in hours.

Their traditional defenses—slow-walking decisions, leaking damaging stories, stonewalling requests—proved useless against an opponent moving faster than their systems could react. By the time they drafted their first memo objecting to this breach, three more systems had already been mapped.
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2025, 11:26:48 am »
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2025, 11:27:52 am »
Outstanding article exploring the preparation and execution of what we have witnessed DOGE doing over the past 2 weeks.
Worth the time to read



OVERRIDE
INSIDE THE REVOLUTION REWIRING AMERICAN POWER
EKO
Feb 05, 2025
The clock struck 2 AM on Jan 21, 2025.
In Treasury's basement, fluorescent lights hummed above four young coders. Their screens cast blue light across government-issue desks, illuminating energy drink cans and agency badges. As their algorithms crawled through decades of payment data, one number kept growing: $17 billion in redundant programs. And counting.

"We're in," Akash Bobba messaged the team. "All of it."

Edward Coristine's code had already mapped three subsystems. Luke Farritor's algorithms were tracing payment flows across agencies. Ethan Shaotran's analysis revealed patterns that career officials didn't even know existed. By dawn, they would understand more about Treasury's operations than people who had worked there for decades.

This wasn't a hack. This wasn't a breach. This was authorized disruption.

While career bureaucrats prepared orientation packets and welcome memos, DOGE's team was already deep inside the payment systems. No committees. No approvals. No red tape. Just four coders with unprecedented access and algorithms ready to run.

"The beautiful thing about payment systems," noted a transition official watching their screens, "is that they don't lie. You can spin policy all day long, but money leaves a trail."

That trail led to staggering discoveries. Programs marked as independent revealed coordinated funding streams. Grants labeled as humanitarian aid showed curious detours through complex networks. Black budgets once shrouded in secrecy began to unravel under algorithmic scrutiny.

By 6 AM, Treasury's career officials began arriving for work. They found systems they thought impenetrable already mapped. Networks they believed hidden already exposed. Power structures built over decades revealed in hours.

Their traditional defenses—slow-walking decisions, leaking damaging stories, stonewalling requests—proved useless against an opponent moving faster than their systems could react. By the time they drafted their first memo objecting to this breach, three more systems had already been mapped.
https://eko.substack.com/p/override

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2025, 11:30:36 am »
21st Century technology meets 20th Century corruption.
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2025, 11:50:36 am »
21st Century technology meets 20th Century corruption.

This.  :yowsa:
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2025, 11:57:28 am »
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"The beautiful thing about payment systems," noted a transition official watching their screens, "is that they don't lie. You can spin policy all day long, but money leaves a trail."

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2025, 12:53:46 pm »
:bingo:
Yep, paper money payoffs are untraceable, but in this day and age of digital transactions, it is all laid out for the world to see.
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2025, 01:31:53 pm »
Someone at DOGE read this guy's book:

If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2025, 01:37:52 pm »
21st Century technology meets 20th Century corruption.

I would have guessed that it would take days/weeks just to traverse all the information. How fast can the connections to all these databases be???

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2025, 01:46:28 pm »
The sentence, "The AI probe includes data with personally identifiable information for people who manage grants, as well as sensitive internal financial data, the two people said," is supposed to sound scary, because "personally identifiable information" about patients and students is protected under HIPAA and FERPA, and it's something institutional review boards forbid maintaining when social science research is being conducted.  But I'm not aware of privacy laws protecting grant managers, nor is an audit of Federal spending social science research.  As for "sensitive" internal financial data, audits always involve looking at all financial date, and especially whatever financial data folks who don't want to be audited regard as "sensitive".
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2025, 02:31:11 pm »
The sentence, "The AI probe includes data with personally identifiable information for people who manage grants, as well as sensitive internal financial data, the two people said," is supposed to sound scary, because "personally identifiable information" about patients and students is protected under HIPAA and FERPA, and it's something institutional review boards forbid maintaining when social science research is being conducted.  But I'm not aware of privacy laws protecting grant managers, nor is an audit of Federal spending social science research.  As for "sensitive" internal financial data, audits always involve looking at all financial date, and especially whatever financial data folks who don't want to be audited regard as "sensitive".

HIPAA only applies to people and organizations that generate health care data, such as doctors, hospitals, nurses, dentists, and etc.

Data custodians such as government agencies or insurance companies that are not health care providers (like the VA) are not covered by HIPAA but are covered by data privacy laws with regards to PII and PHI.

Elon Musk possesses an extremely high level National Security clearance because it is his business to put our nation's spy satellites into orbit. He's likely more thoroughly vetted for security than the people who were previously maintaining the alleged health care records in question.

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2025, 02:33:59 pm »
Yep, paper money payoffs are untraceable, but in this day and age of digital transactions, it is all laid out for the world to see.

Well it appears gold bars were traceable...

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2025, 04:19:06 pm »
Well it appears gold bars were traceable...
you believe that was Menendez's only stash?

If it was, he is even stupider than any thought possible

And who has any ideas of where all the other gold bars are in the possessions of other politicians?

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2025, 06:12:50 pm »
I read that piece called "Override" mentioned above earlier today.

Very nice, but at this point in time, about 95% fiction, I reckon.
(consider the source: substack)

Not that I'd LIKE to see things unfold that way.
But we're not there yet.
Much more to be done.

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Makes me wonder if Mr. Musk has been planning and working on this "DOGE" project behind the scenes for some time now...

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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2025, 08:43:02 pm »
HIPAA only applies to people and organizations that generate health care data, such as doctors, hospitals, nurses, dentists, and etc.


I'm quite aware of that, and that FERPA only applies to educational records, and that IRB procedures only apply to human subjects research.  My point was that the phrase "personally identifiable information" was being used outside of any of those contexts as a scare tactic. 
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2025, 08:52:23 pm »
HIPAA only applies to people and organizations that generate health care data, such as doctors, hospitals, nurses, dentists, and etc.

Data custodians such as government agencies or insurance companies that are not health care providers (like the VA) are not covered by HIPAA but are covered by data privacy laws with regards to PII and PHI.

Elon Musk possesses an extremely high level National Security clearance because it is his business to put our nation's spy satellites into orbit. He's likely more thoroughly vetted for security than the people who were previously maintaining the alleged health care records in question.

I believe that gov't entities can still ascertain records of individuals regardless of HIPAA law in certain circumstances.

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I applaud what Trump/Musk have done to date.  Finding corruption is always delightful.

It was said yesterday that Musk is saving about $1 billion per day.  Well, that is more admirable than anything else done to date in the USA.  But as plainly and frankly as I can, that is small potatoes!

Let me begin by saying I do  not have access to the data Musk has had access to, and I am basing my recommendations on bits of information obtained by listening to a very few.

First, Mark Levin said on his Sunday show the following:  that there are 2.4 million federal employees, excluding the military and postal service.  I knew this already.  But what he went on to say, I did not know.  THERE ARE 7 MILLION CONTRACTORS WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT INCLUDING THE MILITARY AND POSTAL CONTRACTORS.

That is nearly THREE TIMES the number of resources than federal employees.  Now, if Trump/Musk were my client, I would be telling them to go after the low hanging fruit.  Rather than going after civil servants which have protections once they get beyond three years+ of service, it would be easy to eliminate the contractors working for the federal government, even the military and postal service, all included, add up to 10 million contractors.  There are no protections for contractors working for the federal government.  They are more expensive than employees, and they have zero civil service protection.  With the stroke of one pen, Trump could reduce the cost of resources working for the federal government by $500 billion to $1.5 trillion per year.

Doing this far eclipses anything Musk is doing.  That is one day's work.  And while perhaps not all 100% of the contractors need to go, I am a believer that the 80/20 rule applies to almost all things.  Start off eliminating 80%, or even 50% working to 80%. 

Why is this a better approach?  Because the UGLY TRUTH is that some portion of what Trump/Musk are doing will be stopped by the courts, including the Supreme Court putting a halt to what they are doing.  Count on it.

Take US AID as just one example.  A federal employee told me that only 293 folks at US AID will get to keep their jobs, that the rest of roughly 12,000 employees will be handed their head.  As a guesstimate, I am supposing that 3,-5,000 of the 12,000 have less than three years of service or are temporary employees with no protections under civil service rules.  For the 7,000+/- that have more than three years of service, I see the courts siding with the employees and preventing their termination.  Now the above numbers are just guesstimates, for I do not have the actual data.

All this drama, and I expect much of it will be halted by our court system.

If the mission is truly about reducing government size, and particularly COST, than what I am recommending above without even seeing the data to make decisions on makes more sense, and NO DAMN DRAMA!!!

Now this accomplishes many things.  It forces the federal employees to do their job, to do what contractors were doing.  And for those not willing to work, guess what happens, they take a hike.  So we as taxpayers realize the savings from eliminating the contractors, a much bigger cost than the employees, and it gets rid of those not willing to work a full day's work that are employees. 

You want to trim government, it can be done without drama and at much higher numbers than what Musk is generating, with little to no court interference.
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Re: So, That's How DOGE Is Able to Find All This Government Waste So Fast [AI]
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2025, 07:37:34 am »
I believe that gov't entities can still ascertain records of individuals regardless of HIPAA law in certain circumstances.

There is no "regardless of HIPAA law" where it doesn't apply.

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