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LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« on: January 31, 2025, 07:14:19 am »

LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
Story by Sonya Gugliara For Dailymail.Com • 5h

The 'extremely dangerous' lithium-ion batteries used to power electric vehicles are hindering California's wildlife cleanup efforts.

As federal agencies enter Phase 1 of clearing out the debris piled throughout Los Angeles, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is tasked with removing hazardous materials.
 
Lithium-ion batteries are making up a significant portion of these dangerous items - and the EPA worries they may 'can spontaneously re-ignite, explode, and emit toxic gases and particulates even after the fire is out,' NBC Los Angeles reported.

EPA incident commander Steve Calanog told the outlet that the aftermath of the Palisades and Eaton fires will likely call for the 'largest lithium-ion battery pickup, cleanup, that’s ever happened in the history of the world.'

Calanog said that handling these shockingly temperamental batteries is no easy task - and it requires 'technical sophistication and care.'

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Re: LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2025, 11:25:14 am »
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Re: LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2025, 01:11:44 pm »
Prayers u for the debris clearing crews and firefighters who will have to deal with this mess.
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Re: LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2025, 01:21:44 pm »
I would love to have the 18650 batteries out of just one new car that was not too overly heated... Those are some of the best rechargeable batteries (and I use the in a lot of my flashlights). Usually they are not cheap China halfies (lower quality) like you find on Amazon, but the good ones like you find in Dewalt rechargeable batteries.
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Re: LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2025, 06:53:11 pm »
Quote from: Sighlass on January 31, 2025, 01:21:44 pm
I would love to have the 18650 batteries out of just one new car that was not too overly heated... Those are some of the best rechargeable batteries (and I use the in a lot of my flashlights). Usually they are not cheap China halfies (lower quality) like you find on Amazon, but the good ones like you find in Dewalt rechargeable batteries.
I use the 18650s in my Fenix lights. Bright, recharge well, and last long enough I have a bunch sitting idle.
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Re: LA's electric vehicle obsession hampers fire cleanup
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2025, 06:58:11 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 31, 2025, 01:11:44 pm
Prayers u for the debris clearing crews and firefighters who will have to deal with this mess.

Fine heavy metal particulates and hydrogen fluoride are nasty things to deal with. And now it's in the soil and in the water sheds...
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