Saudi Crown Prince just called and said they want to invest $600 BILLION in the United States

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1882212007849709983

[jmyrlefuller]

We're selling out to the Saudis? 

[Hoodat]

And now you see why trade deficits don't matter.  Besides, I would much rather have the Saudi's investing $600 billion in US business than investing $600 billion in the federal government by purchasing T-bills.

[mystery-ak]

Saudi Arabia intends to invest $600 billion in US, crown prince says during call with Trump

 By  JON GAMBRELL
Updated 9:41 AM CST, January 23, 2025

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi Arabia’s crown prince said Thursday the kingdom wants to invest $600 billion in the United States over the next four years, comments that came after President Donald Trump earlier put a price tag on returning to the kingdom as his first foreign trip.

Trump’s 2017 trip to Saudi Arabia upended a tradition of U.S. presidents first heading to the United Kingdom as their first trip abroad. It also underscored his administration’s close ties to the rulers of the oil-rich Gulf states as his eponymous real estate company has pursued deals across the region as well.

The comments from Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, reported early Thursday by the state-run Saudi Press Agency, came in a phone call with Trump. It marked Trump’s first call with a foreign leader since his inauguration Monday.

“The crown prince affirmed the kingdom’s intention to broaden its investments and trade with the United States over the next four years, in the amount of $600 billion, and potentially beyond that,” the report said.

The readout did not elaborate on where those investments and trade could be placed. The U.S. in recent years has increasingly pulled away from relying on Saudi oil exports, which once was the bedrock of their relationship for decades. Saudi sovereign wealth funds have taken large stakes in American businesses while also looking at sports as well.

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https://apnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-us-investment-trump-6730a89f93b44ed8d705638f95700cbb

[IsailedawayfromFR]

What's not to like here?

Am sure there are also included some obligations by SA to keep the oil spigots open as well so crude prices lower.

[DefiantMassRINO]

I'm not a fan of the Saudi royal family.  Those bastards are responsible for 9/11, OPEC energy embargoes, proliferation of muslim extremist madrasas, and are Wahhabists.

They invest in America to corrupt and control it from within.

[Fishrrman]

Agree with RINO.
I don't trust the Saudis.
They ARE NOT our "friends" and never will be.

If they want to keep their $600 billion, that's fine with me, too.

[MOD4]

Merged.

[Timber Rattler]

What's not to like here?

Am sure there are also included some obligations by SA to keep the oil spigots open as well so crude prices lower.

Here's the problem...the Saudis will use that money to buy up property and mineral resource lands and build countless mosques and "Islamic Centers" all across the U.S.  They're not going to be investing in U.S. industry but U.S. culture and society. 

Is that really what we need and want?   

[Wingnut]

Here's the problem...the Saudis will use that money to buy up property and mineral resource lands and build countless mosques and "Islamic Centers" all across the U.S.  They're not going to be investing in U.S. industry but U.S. culture and society. 

Is that really what we need and want?   

Is that what really what will happen?   Saudi royals love money 1st and foremost. They love hookers and blow.  Ask Hunter.

[Timber Rattler]

Is that what really what will happen?   Saudi royals love money 1st and foremost. They love hookers and blow.  Ask Hunter.

That's all true enough, but they tried to do it before, after 9/11.  Remember all those stories about "Islamic centers" and mosques going up throughout small town America?

I remember this one distinctly because it's not far from my home and only a few miles from Camp David, directly under the flight path of Marine 1 and military aircraft flying to and fro there...

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/continuing_coverage/hindsight/hindsight-2020-walkersville-residents-debate-muslim-community-center-throughout-2007/article_f0c8b6d2-c04f-5bba-86d6-fd013850318e.html

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/08/30/Muslim-worship-center-rejected-by-Md-town/19071220107697/

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/local/20071027_Cool_reception_to_Muslims_A_Md__town_is_resisting_plans_by_an_Islamic_sect_to_build_a_mosque_there_.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2025/01/20/in-2007-in-the-usa-ahmadis-tried-to-force-the-city-of-walkersville-maryland/

Just sayin'...

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Here's the problem...the Saudis will use that money to buy up property and mineral resource lands and build countless mosques and "Islamic Centers" all across the U.S.  They're not going to be investing in U.S. industry but U.S. culture and society. 

Is that really what we need and want?   

And exactly how do you know all that?

The Saudis made huge investments buying up half of one of our largest refiners Texaco's downstream operations almost 30 years ago.

Have you noticed all those mosques and 'Islamic Centers' around you since then that they built?

I've dealt with the Saudis for many years and many are extremely smart in business as well as politics.  Yes, they are Muslim, but those in authority are much more driven by money ambitions rather than pushing their ideology upon Westerners.

[DefiantMassRINO]

The Saudi's are using money to infiltrate the US so they can destroy it from within.

The Saudi's screw America every chance they get.  They only keep us close to keep Iran at bay.

[Timber Rattler]

And exactly how do you know all that?

Because like I said above, they've tried to do it before.  The Saudis are NOT benevolent.

Who do you think funded all the mosques that have appeared in such places as Dearborn, Newark, Minneapolis, Murfreesboro, Frederick, etc., etc...

And has everybody suddenly forgotten 9/11 the Saudi royal family's involvement in those attacks?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Because like I said above, they've tried to do it before.  The Saudis are NOT benevolent.

Who do you think funded all the mosques that have appeared in such places as Dearborn, Newark, Minneapolis, Murfreesboro, Frederick, etc., etc...

And has everybody suddenly forgotten 9/11 the Saudi royal family's involvement in those attacks?

I see nothing in what you posted that supports these claims that these are supported by Saudi Arabia.

What you posted is the spread by an Islamic movement called Ahmadiyya whose origin is in India.  That movement is missionary in nature to spread Islam.

Having said that, am of the belief that there is some involvement by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to assist the construction of mosques in this country.

Have never heard of anything as widespread as what you describe, however.  It is more likely that the Islamic communities that exists in this country are founding places of worship they can attend. 

As I stated before, Saudis have invested many billions of dollars into businesses here in the country and to date none have seen the widespread funding of mosques by SA here that you describe.

I would like to hear about any data you have seen, though, as I think fundamentally it would not be something that would benefit the USA.

My bottomline is this does not have a priority attention by Saudi Arabia, as much as $ does.

[DefiantMassRINO]

15 out 19 9/11 hijackers can't be wrong.

From whom do nomadic goat herders get the resources to become Al Queda, ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc.?  They get their funding from rich Persian Gulf Nations - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates to do their Islamic bidding.

We need to keep the Middle East out of America.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

15 out 19 9/11 hijackers can't be wrong.

From whom do nomadic goat herders get the resources to become Al Queda, ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc.?  They get their funding from rich Persian Gulf Nations - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates to do their Islamic bidding.

You are on a completely different subject now.

The original statement was that to allow the Saudi government to invest in the USA would cause

the Saudis will use that money to buy up property and mineral resource lands and build countless mosques and "Islamic Centers" all across the U.S.  They're not going to be investing in U.S. industry but U.S. culture and society.

There is not evidence that has been furnished that this will be the case.  In fact in what I am aware of, the huge investments the Saudi government have made in America over the past several decades has been in American businesses.

So don't just spew nonsense that gives credence to the leftists that Islamophobia is present without giving some facts that support the Saudi government building countless mosques across the USA.

I for one do not wish more Muslims to be in the country, nor adhere to any Islamic rituals here in public as I have seen many times across the Middle East.  To blanketly state something that may not be true makes one into a just another propagandist. 

[libertybele]

Do we really need Saudi's investing in the U.S.?  Investors have always meant to me, part ownership or ownership of an entity be it a company, land or commodity.   

We don't need Saudi's owning real estate, companies, farm land, etc. 

No.  Just plain NO!

[Timber Rattler]

You are on a completely different subject now.

The original statement was that to allow the Saudi government to invest in the USA would cause
There is not evidence that has been furnished that this will be the case.  In fact in what I am aware of, the huge investments the Saudi government have made in America over the past several decades has been in American businesses.

So don't just spew nonsense that gives credence to the leftists that Islamophobia is present without giving some facts that support the Saudi government building countless mosques across the USA.

I for one do not wish more Muslims to be in the country, nor adhere to any Islamic rituals here in public as I have seen many times across the Middle East.  To blanketly state something that may not be true makes one into a just another propagandist.

Sorry but no.  I remember the Saudi involvement in 9/11 all too well, and what they were trying to do in the 2000s.  They are our enemy and we do not need them or their money here, period.  And if you think that they won't be trying to buy influence with that $600 billion then you are naive about them.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Sorry but no.  I remember the Saudi involvement in 9/11 all too well, and what they were trying to do in the 2000s.  They are our enemy and we do not need them or their money here, period.  And if you think that they won't be trying to buy influence with that $600 billion then you are naive about them.

Sorry, but you are the naive one.

We do need their oil, as we have needed for the past 75 years, as it reduces crude prices and makes our standard of living more comfortable.   We simply have no way to replace during the short to medium term the crude we currently get from them.  Would you prefer Venezuela?  Libya?  Russia?  Do you really wish to pay $10+ per gallon for filling up your vehicle?  Or buy windmills and solar panels from a true enemy, China?

While we originally exploited their country for its resources, we are now partners and sometimes competitors, not enemies, in a mutually-beneficial relationship.

Do we differ on religious and moral factors? Yes, of course we do.

And no way should we or would we permit Saudi to undertake what you have stated they will do.

And please be explicit in your remembrances on what was done during the 2000s by the Saudi government which causes you so much consternation.

[Timber Rattler]

Well let's start right here...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/19/911-report-details-saudi-arabia-funding-of-muslim-/

9/11 report details Saudi Arabia funding of Muslim extremists in U.S.

Saudi Arabia was funding Muslim radicalism in mosques and charities at the time the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers were gathering in the United States and making contacts with Saudi nationals, according to a declassified intelligence document.

To jihad watchers, the paper confirms their charges that the Saudi government and its wealthy citizens fund extremist teachings in America. To this day, the kingdom is pressing its harsh Wahhabi Sunni Islam on American Muslims as it seeks to spread Islam around the world, they say.

In the document, one Saudi who was receiving money from Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Riyadh’s ambassador to the U.S. at the time, made a startling statement to an FBI informant. The man, who had ties to some of the hijackers, told agents that it would do the U.S. no good to limit entry visas because a sufficient number of Muslims were already in the country to destroy it and create an Islamic state.

The disclosure was tucked in the “28 pages” — a long-secret chapter in a 2002 report by the House and Senate intelligence committees after an investigation in the immediate aftermath of the al Qaeda attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and on the Pentagon. Of the 19 who hijacked four airliners, 15 were Saudis.

The report section, referred to as “Part 4,” deals mainly with one topic: suspected Saudi government support for the Sept. 11 plot. The George W. Bush administration insisted that the section remain classified. Under pressure, the Obama administration released the pages last week.

The high-powered 9/11 Commission conducted a more extensive investigation into the attacks. Its leaders assert that the commission ran down every lead in the 28 pages but was unable to confirm that the Saudi kingdom or its agents helped plan or knowingly financed the attack, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

But the 28 pages also touch on an issue beyond the question of the attack itself. The Saudi government and Saudi citizens were funding groups that spread jihadi messages against the U.S., funded terrorist groups and were seen as recruiters for Osama bin Laden, the al Qaeda terrorist leader.

Here are some of the Saudi-linked entities mentioned in the 28 pages, which derived from the FBI’s and CIA’s earliest investigation into Sept. 11:

• The King Fahad mosque in Culver City, California. Sheik Fahad al-Thumairy was a Saudi diplomat in its mission in Los Angeles and an imam at the mosque.

Said Part 4: “The mosque was built in 1998 from funding provided by Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Abdelaziz. The mosque is reportedly attended by members of the Saudi consultant in Los Angeles and is widely recognized for its anti-Western views.”

• The Ibn Tamiyah mosque in Culver City. The report called it “a site of extremist-related activity.” This mosque appears to be associated with the King Fahad Mosque.

And then...

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/politics/28-pages-saudi-prince-bandar-9-11/index.html

https://nypost.com/2017/09/09/saudi-government-allegedly-funded-a-dry-run-for-911/

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/new-video-documents-revive-questions-saudi-role-911-attacks-rcna158768

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/911-attacks-saudi-arabia-fbi-trump-hijackers-mussaed-ahmed-al-jarrah-a9513016.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-court-filing-fbi-accidentally-reveals-name-of-saudi-official-suspected-of-directing-support-for-911-hijackers-224555851.html

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-terrorism-saudi-20160929-snap-story.html

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/mike-kelly/2022/03/13/sept-11-fbi-links-saudi-arabia-spy-attacks/9442454002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/magazine/9-11-saudi-arabia-fbi.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/us/28-pages-saudi-arabia-september-11.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58533538


So yeah, to hell with the Saudis and the camels they rode in on...

 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Well let's start right here...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/19/911-report-details-saudi-arabia-funding-of-muslim-/

9/11 report details Saudi Arabia funding of Muslim extremists in U.S.

And then...

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/politics/28-pages-saudi-prince-bandar-9-11/index.html

https://nypost.com/2017/09/09/saudi-government-allegedly-funded-a-dry-run-for-911/

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/new-video-documents-revive-questions-saudi-role-911-attacks-rcna158768

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/911-attacks-saudi-arabia-fbi-trump-hijackers-mussaed-ahmed-al-jarrah-a9513016.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-court-filing-fbi-accidentally-reveals-name-of-saudi-official-suspected-of-directing-support-for-911-hijackers-224555851.html

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-terrorism-saudi-20160929-snap-story.html

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/mike-kelly/2022/03/13/sept-11-fbi-links-saudi-arabia-spy-attacks/9442454002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/magazine/9-11-saudi-arabia-fbi.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/us/28-pages-saudi-arabia-september-11.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58533538


So yeah, to hell with the Saudis and the camels they rode in on...

 

Thx for all these references.  Upon looking at them, it is obvious that the US should be on guard toward any efforts by the government of Saudi Arabia to radicalize elements within our country.  As you suggest, that should include, among other things, perhaps a ban on mineral exploitation and property here by SA.

That does not mean we are absent from doing any and all business with that country.  The US still needs its resources to continue our standard of living, we just need to utilize these resources under our own control.

The elements which are the worst in radical Islam come from the Iranians and those countries and elements Iran backs.  I would never accept Iranian crude into this country, and would not accept Iranian citizens unless they are highly screened.

The Saudis need us as much or more than we need them.  We can never permit their resource bounty to fall into the hands of the Russia/China alliance, nor be blackmailed into submission by the radicals of Iran, which is one reason we have our relationship with them since the 1940s.

Trump has been braying about the US containing the world's largest hydrocarbon resource, which is misleading if not wildly incorrect.  We have a lot for sure, but most is comparatively expensive to attain and will be a prolonged time until it is fully accessed.  Accessing that oil and gas should be a national priority as it creates wealth for us rather than giving our wealth to other countries; however, domestic production will never be enough to satisfy our energy needs.

For generations to come, the world's most plentiful and cheaply attained reserves of oil exist in the Middle East, which causes all countries who wish to prosper to deal with those countries, not to destroy relationships with them.  There are exceptions, such as the Mullahs of Iran, who cannot be dealt with nor trusted.

As long as the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is run by the Saud family, it will be one we can deal with to continue/improve our living standards.  If that family becomes fractionated, then all hell will break loose on the world stage as energy access will be a whole new game.

Ferreting out radicals within Islam should be the priority here.  It is not in the interests of the Saud family to promote these elements.  The real problem for us Westerners is that we have limited ability to discern who among the Muslim world is radical or not, so we throw them all in a catch-all group to our detriment.  So the only way we Westerners can react is to simply say we ban all of them, which does not serve our needs well.  What is really needed is for Muslims themselves to identify the radical Muslims as they best know who they are.  And the Muslim world has more effective methods of dealing with them than we do.  There are no Guantanamo Bay resorts in the ME, just torture chambers.

There are ways we can take to gradually lessen our reliance upon Middle Eastern crude, such as improved relationships with our neighbor Canada, resurgence of nuclear power, and focused development of gas-to-liquids improvements as our abundance of natural gas far exceeds that of crude oil.  This will take time and a commitment over a generation to obtain.

Finally, I have no desire to further the expansion of Islamic peoples or institutions within our country.  We just need to work with them intelligently.

[Hoodat]

We're talking about $600 billion in US dollars that is currently parked in Saudi banks.  Do we want these dollars returned to the US and invested in businesses that will create wealth and provide jobs right here in the US?  Yes, or no?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

We're talking about $600 billion in US dollars that is currently parked in Saudi banks.  Do we want these dollars returned to the US and invested in businesses that will create wealth and provide jobs right here in the US?  Yes, or no?

Emphatically, yes.  Same for any other country, invest here under our control and using predominately our citizens as the workforce.

[Fishrrman]

"We're talking about $600 billion in US dollars that is currently parked in Saudi banks.  Do we want these dollars returned to the US and invested in businesses that will create wealth and provide jobs right here in the US?  Yes, or no?"

No.
To be honest, I'd be more comfortable with $600 billion from the Chinese communists.
Yes, I really mean that. (not that I'd really want their money, either)

Even the CCP recognizes the danger that islam represents.
Some in this forum do not.