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What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« on: January 21, 2025, 07:22:00 am »
What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means

Quitting the Paris Agreement triggers a cascade of real-world impacts and signals the beginning of an aggressive agenda to undo U.S. climate policy.
 

By Sara Schonhardt, Zack Colman and Karl Mathiesen

01/20/2025 01:55 PM EST

Updated: 01/20/2025 09:13 PM EST

President Donald Trump ordered the U.S. on Monday to withdraw once again from the 2015 Paris climate agreement — instantly isolating the country from the global campaign to stem catastrophic warming.

This time, Trump’s repudiation of the worldwide climate effort could bite deeper by taking effect more quickly and at a time when the new president has more far-right allies overseas and at home.


Language in Trump’s executive order said the U.S. would consider the withdrawal to take effect “immediately.” It didn’t mention the one-year notice period that the climate pact spells out.


The order, which Trump signed with public fanfare just hours after taking office, collides with a rise in climate havoc around the world, including the devastating Los Angeles wildfires and revelations that last year was the hottest ever recorded. It marks the launch of an aggressive agenda to roll back U.S. climate policy, driven by an emboldened president who invites confrontation over the scientific underpinnings of climate change.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/20/trumps-exit-climate-deal-means-00199406
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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2025, 07:41:11 am »
All in all, this Politico editorial was more about what a bad guy Trump is than about the climate.  An example of some of words and phrases used:

Trump (not President Trump)

Quitting the Paris Agreement triggers a cascade of real-world impacts and signals the beginning of an aggressive agenda to undo (how horrible can it get?) U.S. climate policy. (actually, Biden policy)

Trump’s repudiation (Did they ever question Biden's)

could bite deeper (How aggressive!!!)

far-right allies (not supporters, though.  They're evil)

signed with public fanfare  (Trump shouldn't celebrate like Biden did)

collides (see, bad stuff)

rise in climate havoc around the world (Climate havoc or government malfeasance)

including the devastating Los Angeles wildfires (no one but the MSM and political hacks agree with this

 driven by (like the spikes in the palms of Jesus)

On and on it goes. :bs:
The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2025, 07:57:07 am »
If your science has a 'right wing' and a 'left wing', perhaps you are not doing science at all, just a political agenda wrapped in impressive sounding nomenclature and garnished with cherry picked data.
The howling about the end of the world has only been manifested in the outrageous expenditures and edicts aimed at replacing systems which have worked with systems which still fall short of the mark, despite being heavily subsidized.

From the cheap seats, this looks like a wealth redistribution scheme which favors some while leaving the average person saddled with expensive and unreliable energy sources.
THAT, friends and neighbors, rapidly becomes a matter of national security, and it is my belief that the very reason we are beset (in the 'free world') by outraged minions of a wannabee climate State is to stop us from being the very 'free world' we have been, by compromising our ability to function and defend ourselves on every level.
There's a faint whiff of Alice's Restaurant in the concept that we might not have weapons systems with low enough emissions to burn enemy cities and lay waste to their armies and industrial centers. 

Oh, the horror, the horror.

No one is going to be sitting on the sidelines giving out medals for having a low carbon footprint.

Our potential adversaries KNOW this, and are acting accordingly, doing what works. Perhaps we should consider doing the same.

Either we will utilize our resources, or, ultimately, they will.
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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2025, 08:07:58 am »
Joe, you are smokin' on that analysis!!!! :hands:  blij26
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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2025, 08:45:40 am »
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spot on Joe!
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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2025, 05:48:37 pm »
Joe wrote:
"Either we will utilize our resources, or, ultimately, they will."

Kinda like "Fishrrman's law of energy resources":
Any and all energy resources will eventually be used when needed.
The only variable is how badly the need becomes to extract and use them.

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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2025, 06:26:16 pm »
All in all, this Politico editorial was more about what a bad guy Trump is than about the climate.  An example of some of words and phrases used:

Trump (not President Trump)

Quitting the Paris Agreement triggers a cascade of real-world impacts and signals the beginning of an aggressive agenda to undo (how horrible can it get?) U.S. climate policy. (actually, Biden policy)

Trump’s repudiation (Did they ever question Biden's)

could bite deeper (How aggressive!!!)

far-right allies (not supporters, though.  They're evil)

signed with public fanfare  (Trump shouldn't celebrate like Biden did)

collides (see, bad stuff)

rise in climate havoc around the world (Climate havoc or government malfeasance)

including the devastating Los Angeles wildfires (no one but the MSM and political hacks agree with this

 driven by (like the spikes in the palms of Jesus)

On and on it goes. :bs:
Most of the climate hysteria for the past 30 years is a result of a couple of singular 'studies' which say man-made activities are causing disastrous effects to the earth's climate.  These are all poorly substantiated with data and for competent, non-biased scientists studying the data, have eventually turned out to be either erroneous data or suspicious conclusions, or both.

The reason I say the studies must be weak as there have been zero predictions from them have been proven to be true over the passage of time, so the conclusions must be trashed.

Every time we have an earthquake, hurricane, flooding, drought, freeze, etc, so called climate change is said to the cause, a declaration without substantiation.  And the even bigger leap is that man caused this to happen. 

This always comes up and is never appropriately challenged.

We may be in a unique, one-time situation right now to better educate the public on this using the powers of the administration.

Question: Do we need a federally-funded effort led by these true scientists to produce a report on what is actually happening and refute all this climate fantasy?  It potentially can provide more cement to analyses like this:

January 22, 2025
The CO2 canard is coming apart at the seams

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/01/the_co2_canard_is_coming_apart_at_the_seams.html
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Re: What Trump’s exit from the climate deal really means
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2025, 06:44:52 pm »
I just remember the 70's coming ice age.

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