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Online rangerrebew

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The Energy Storage Fiasco -- How Soon Will It Be Abandoned?
« on: January 20, 2025, 06:47:47 am »
The Energy Storage Fiasco -- How Soon Will It Be Abandoned?
January 17, 2025/ Francis Menton

Energy from the wind and the sun — they’re clean and green and free.  OK, there’s the small problem of intermittency.  But clearly the intermittency problem can easily be solved with a few batteries to store some power for the occasional calm nights.

Or is that solution really so easy?  Regular readers here will know that I wrote an energy storage Report, titled “The Energy Storage Conundrum,” published by the GWPF back in December 2022.  After some straightforward calculations based on elementary-school-level arithmetic, that Report concluded that the amount of storage needed was so large, and the costs so completely unaffordable, that energy storage was totally infeasible as a way to make wind and solar work as the main power sources for an electricity grid.  Calculations set forth in that Report concluded that the amount of energy storage needed to enable a predominantly wind/solar grid to get through a year without hitting a blackout was in the range of 500 to 1000 hours of average electricity usage.  Keep that range in mind for the rest of this post.

Paying no attention whatsoever to my warnings, and not troubling themselves to do any simple arithmetic of their own, the states of New York and California have chosen to forge ahead with plans for predominantly wind/solar grids backed up by batteries.  Multiple years into the project, neither state is anywhere near to building 1% of the energy storage that would be needed to make their fantasy systems work.  But even in these very early stages, they have both blundered into an additional and unanticipated problem:  catastrophic fires.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2025-1-17-the-energy-storage-fiasco-how-soon-will-it-be-abandoned-h5w94
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Re: The Energy Storage Fiasco -- How Soon Will It Be Abandoned?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2025, 08:55:51 am »
Does not even mention the fact that over-reliance on energy storage in batteries make them a prime target for our enemies to hit in order to cripple us.

Contrast the problem of taking out the hundreds of thousands of wells scattered across the country that produce energy storage in the form of oil and gas.
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Re: The Energy Storage Fiasco -- How Soon Will It Be Abandoned?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2025, 08:57:48 am »
The storage we seek to imitate has already been done.

The power of the sun is stored in black rocks, unstable primordial atoms and those they interact with, in liquids of various viscosities that percolate in the Earth until released, and in vapors that travel through rock and even bubble to the surface if not similarly released.
Some processing required...

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Re: The Energy Storage Fiasco -- How Soon Will It Be Abandoned?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2025, 09:00:43 am »
The storage we seek to imitate has already been done.

The power of the sun is stored in black rocks, unstable primordial atoms and those they interact with, in liquids of various viscosities that percolate in the Earth until released, and in vapors that travel through rock and even bubble to the surface if not similarly released.
Some processing required...

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