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Mark Levin unveils the TRUTH about birthright citizenship Dems keeps hidden: 'It’s not in the Constitution'
BlazeTV Staff
January 12, 2025

The hullabaloo surrounding “birthright citizenship” is certain to escalate as the Trump administration begins preparing to carry out mass deportations.

Mark Levin says that the notion of birthright citizenship — the idea that if you’re born in the United States, you’re a citizen — is a sham and always has been.



Many people believe that birthright citizenship is in our Constitution, but they are wrong. Democrats and the media claim it comes from the 14th Amendment specifically, but they’re lying.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/levintv/mark-levin-unveils-the-truth-about-birthright-citizenship-dems-keeps-hidden-its-not-in-the-constitution
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I'm sorry, but unless you can find a way of declaring certain persons born in the United States are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the plain meaning of "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," means if you're born here, unless your parents were diplomats so that they and you have diplomatic immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, you're a citizen.

I suppose we could declare anyone who sneaks into the US to be a diplomat, so that they and their children have diplomatic immunity, aren't subject to US jurisdiction and get around it that way, but then all the illegal immigrants who commit crimes can only be deported, not tried and punished for their crimes.  Of course, that would still leave birthright citizenship for people whose parents were here legally and were not diplomats (e.g. on student or H-1B visas).
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  "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,

The original clause was meant to include people who had arrived since the original founding.  Immigration was a whole issue by itself.
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I'm sorry, but unless you can find a way of declaring certain persons born in the United States are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the plain meaning of "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," means if you're born here, unless your parents were diplomats so that they and you have diplomatic immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, you're a citizen.

I suppose we could declare anyone who sneaks into the US to be a diplomat, so that they and their children have diplomatic immunity, aren't subject to US jurisdiction and get around it that way, but then all the illegal immigrants who commit crimes can only be deported, not tried and punished for their crimes.  Of course, that would still leave birthright citizenship for people whose parents were here legally and were not diplomats (e.g. on student or H-1B visas).
Easy enough.

They are citizens of their respective parents' countries by birth, especially if they are not here legally.
Sneak into some other country and have a baby.
Your baby will not be a citizen of that country, and neither will you.
They can prosecute you according to their laws, but that does not make your baby a citizen.
You are still subject to the jurisdiction of your country of origin.
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I'm sorry, but unless you can find a way of declaring certain persons born in the United States are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the plain meaning of "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," means if you're born here, unless your parents were diplomats so that they and you have diplomatic immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, you're a citizen.

I suppose we could declare anyone who sneaks into the US to be a diplomat, so that they and their children have diplomatic immunity, aren't subject to US jurisdiction and get around it that way, but then all the illegal immigrants who commit crimes can only be deported, not tried and punished for their crimes.  Of course, that would still leave birthright citizenship for people whose parents were here legally and were not diplomats (e.g. on student or H-1B visas).

Reading the Congressional Globe discussions surrounding the 14th amendment makes quite clear that they were talking about former slaves and their progeny exclusively.
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Reading the Congressional Globe discussions surrounding the 14th amendment makes quite clear that they were talking about former slaves and their progeny exclusively.[/size]

Indeed, but had they wanted to limit its effect to that, then the wording should either have explicitly stated as much, or should have authorized Congress to make laws regarding under which conditions persons subsequently born in the United States to non-citizen parents would be citizens, rather than wording the amendment as they did.  Original intent can clarify the meaning of a law or constitutional provision if there is an ambiguity of meaning whether in the original phrasing or resulting from changes in English usage between the adoption of the provision and the present, it can't change the plain meaning of what was adopted, and that is the whole problem with this issue.
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