BREAKING: Trump suggests “military or economic coercion” could be used to take control of Greenland

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1876678297930625402

[Timber Rattler]

Can't wait for the Declaration of War against Denmark!

 

[libertybele]

Trump needs to stick to MAGA.  Building a wall, mass deportations, resolving inflation, high prices, making us energy independent. you know resolving open borders, inflation, high prices, military downsizing,

Is there a reason we need Greenland and the Panama canal?

[MeganC]

Is there a reason we need Greenland and the Panama canal?

We need Greenland for offshore oil and gas, fisheries, and vast untapped mineral wealth. Not to mention as a forward base against the Russians.

The Panama Canal connects US shipping from one coast to another.

[DefiantMassRINO]

The Panama Canal was built after the Spanish-American War of 1898 when the US realized it needed to move naval assets between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans more efficiently.

Until 1903, Panama was part of Colombia.  In 1903, the US backed an insurgency for Panamanian independence so America could build the Panama Canal in 1914.

So, the Panama Canal was built by the United States for National Security to allow movement of the US Navy between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

The Panama Canal Zone should have remained a US Territory since the Panama Canal is vitally important to the US Navy.

Damn Jimmy Carter gave it away.  Now the Chi-coms have increased influence in the area.

Greenland ... more access to the Arctic Ocean's natural resources and to contain Russian influence over Arctic natural resources.

[cato potatoe]

This trollery is getting old, and his continual rants make it seem like he is serious.  Canadians are not going to surrender their sovereignty to the United States.  Greenlanders perhaps could have been bought, if we had the money and they had been approached directly.  Finally, the Panama Canal Zone is not ours for the taking at this point without a major hit to our reputation. 

[mountaineer]

This is getting ridiculous.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Time could be better spent getting rid of h1bs, or any number of things.

[bigheadfred]

This is getting ridiculous.

I was going to post the same thing. 

[mountaineer]

He - or the people putting out these Canada/Greenland stories - really should just stfu. It's silly.

[libertybele]

He - or the people putting out these Canada/Greenland stories - really should just stfu. It's silly.

Unfortunately, I think he's serious.  As @MeganC posted above, there are benefits to acquiring them.  Why he is going on these 'rants' though is concerning. 

ILLEGAL immigration, the border, energy independence, national security, our economy, etc., should be priorities.

[mountaineer]

[DefiantMassRINO]

The country to 'liberate' is Venzeuela as it has some of the world's largest oil reserves.

[MeganC]

Unfortunately, I think he's serious.  As @MeganC posted above, there are benefits to acquiring them.  Why he is going on these 'rants' though is concerning. 

ILLEGAL immigration, the border, energy independence, national security, our economy, etc., should be priorities.

This trollery is getting old, and his continual rants make it seem like he is serious.  Canadians are not going to surrender their sovereignty to the United States.  Greenlanders perhaps could have been bought, if we had the money and they had been approached directly.  Finally, the Panama Canal Zone is not ours for the taking at this point without a major hit to our reputation.

President Trump is a deal maker. That's a different animal from the usual spineless 'diplomats' that usually muck things up for American foreign affairs.

Trump boisterously says something and in doing so he breaks the ice and a previously taboo topic is now being discussed by more serious people.

By 2029 when President Trump leaves office I expect that the US relationship to Canada and Greenland will be markedly different than it was a few weeks ago.

Keep in mind Trudeau in Canada is being unseated and their political status quo is in disarray. Much worse than the US. Lots of fractures in the Canadian firmament and I believe President Trump wants to be positioned to make sure the US benefits.

With Greenland the issue is that Denmark has frustrated US interest in the island much to the detriment of the locals.

Here is a story that predates the Trump proposal and that gives a somewhat level perspective on the issues:

https://borgenproject.org/greenlands-foreign-aid-dilemma/

[jmyrlefuller]

Is this really worth it?

We do not need Greenland, and we certainly do not need to start an unprovoked invasion of a giant frozen island, especially with what's STILL going on in Russia/Ukraine uncontested by any outside powers. Nor do we, at tens of trillions of dollars in debt, have anywhere near the funds to successfully pull off such a maneuver.

[corbe]

   I would guess he's pacing himself before his inauguration. 



   Next week he'll make Pluto a Planet again.

[Smokin Joe]

Just think of the vast store or unflouridated water in the Greenland Ice Cap...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Is there a reason we need Greenland and the Panama canal?

China. ----  Unless we're okay with being sandwiched between her.

[MeganC]

Is this really worth it?

We do not need Greenland, and we certainly do not need to start an unprovoked invasion of a giant frozen island, especially with what's STILL going on in Russia/Ukraine uncontested by any outside powers. Nor do we, at tens of trillions of dollars in debt, have anywhere near the funds to successfully pull off such a maneuver.

Hyperbole much? 

[bilo]

He - or the people putting out these Canada/Greenland stories - really should just stfu. It's silly.

It's not silly.

Greenland is critical, not just for the minerals, but more importantly to place military assets in striking distance of the Submarines that travel between Greenland and Iceland as they go to the Atlantic. Also, it provides access to the Artic which is a contested area. The Panama Canal provides quick movement for naval assets to move between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

In addition, Trump is sending a message that the USA will not tolerate foreign powers in the western hemisphere and also that the globalist order is coming to an end.

[bilo]

Unfortunately, I think he's serious.  As @MeganC posted above, there are benefits to acquiring them.  Why he is going on these 'rants' though is concerning. 

ILLEGAL immigration, the border, energy independence, national security, our economy, etc., should be priorities.

Trump is not like the typical politician. He can manage a lot of things at once. From what I heard they have about 100 executive orders being prepare with most ready to go day one. It's Congress that we have to worry about keeping up. If the Pubs blow this opportunity they will lose the chance to become a ruling majority for a generation.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

IMO Trump looks foolish here and shades of dimensia biden... why shout this utter nonsense? Why not use the bully pulpit for a greater purpose?

[jmyrlefuller]

IMO Trump looks foolish here and shades of dimensia biden... why shout this utter nonsense? Why not use the bully pulpit for a greater purpose?

And even if this were a proper strategy, there are better ways at going about it. For example, we have air bases in Canada and Greenland along the Davis Strait and Baffin Bay. Using those bases as a beachhead could serve as the basis for a land swap: the U.S. trades some uninhabited islands (such as in the Pacific or, for instance, the Virgin Islands) to those countries in exchange for uninhabited territories surrounding those bases of equal value, establishing a sovereign access to those waters, possibly forming a basis for an American corridor there. Something that could be of mutual benefit to all parties involved.

We don't need all of Greenland, and we certainly don't need an invasion of Canada.

Threatening military action is simply foolish, especially with as much coordination as we have between us and Canada for mutual defense.

[MeganC]

Threatening military action is simply foolish, especially with as much coordination as we have between us and Canada for mutual defense.

He did not threaten anything. Presidents don't ever say that particular options are off the table. Period.

That's how this works.