Author Topic: Do or die for Johnson...[w/udates] (Read 16519 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** January 03, 2025, 09:07:28 am »

Do or die for Johnson
by Alexis Simendinger and Kristina Karisch - 01/03/25 6:20 AM ET

Today is Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-La.) moment of truth.

On the first day of the 119th Congress, will his fellow House Republicans let him keep the Speaker’s gavel? Or will Johnson’s quest to remain in charge of a fractious conference look more like that of his predecessor, former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who endured a 15-ballot odyssey to win the post?

Late Thursday, Johnson, who has received President-elect Trump’s crucial endorsement, was still scrambling for votes. In the 119th Congress’s razor-tight GOP majority, he can afford to lose only one Republican vote provided there’s full attendance, and all Democrats vote for Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.).

He’s already lost that one vote: Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), who has repeatedly said he won’t vote for Johnson. And he faces another critical skeptic in Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-Ind.), who recently called on Johnson to make a series of public commitments on spending issues.

“I think those are your big two right now,” a senior House Republican told The Hill of Massie and Spartz.

more
https://thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/5064945-speaker-mike-johnson-do-or-die/

mystery-ak · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2025, 10:04:16 am »

Johnson faces hard-right calls to name Roy rules chairman for Speaker votes
by The Hill staff - 01/03/25 9:44 AM ET

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is facing demands from hard-right members of his conference to name conservative Rep. Chip Roy to the House Rules Committee to win their votes.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), who has withheld support for Johnson, told former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) in an interview on his new show on One America News Network that a commitment from Johnson to making Roy chair of the House Rules Committee would “secure the vote on the first round with no significant battle.”

Johnson has a narrow margin for error in Friday’s vote.

Assuming all members are present and voting for a candidate, Johnson can afford to lose only one GOP vote — and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is widely seen as an immovable “no.”

Roughly a dozen other conservative Republicans are undecided.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5064718-live-updates-johnson-speaker-vote-new-congress/

ScottinVA · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2025, 10:23:02 am »

This will be an opportunity for Republicans to show they are actually capable of governing… but they’ll eff it up, as a hardcore few insist their personal agendas are more valuable than moving forward with the hard-won mandate awarded them by the electorate. The GOP doesn’t have any room for error in the House. Johnson has done a good job and they should retain him.

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2025, 10:50:43 am »

Quote from: ScottinVA on January 03, 2025, 10:23:02 am

This will be an opportunity for Republicans to show they are actually capable of governing… but they’ll eff it up, as a hardcore few insist their personal agendas are more valuable than moving forward with the hard-won mandate awarded them by the electorate. The GOP doesn’t have any room for error in the House. Johnson has done a good job and they should retain him.

Sorry, but that's just too boilerplate for me. Johnson has done a crap job all the way around, but the problem is the usual one - who is agreeable and conservative enough to replace him?

The real question is how much do we really need Congress for the next couple of years? Much of the work that needs done can be done within the Executive branch with existing laws.

So how much does it matter who is Speaker right now?

corbe · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2025, 11:49:55 am »

Live updates: Memo detailing Johnson ‘fails’ circulating among Republicans ahead of Speaker vote

by The Hill staff - 01/03/25 11:38 AM ET

A five-page, 26-point memo detailing “fails” under Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-La.) leadership is circulating among House Republicans as the first ballot draws near.

A copy of the document obtained by The Hill reads: “The House must be organized to deliver on the historic mandate granted to President Trump and Republicans. It currently is not – as demonstrated many times over the last year and, most recently, the week before Christmas.”

Johnson has a narrow margin for error in Friday’s Speakership vote.

Assuming all members are present and voting for a candidate, Johnson can afford to lose only one GOP vote — and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is widely seen as an immovable “no.”

<..snip..>

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5064718-live-updates-johnson-speaker-vote-new-congress/

mystery-ak · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:05:27 pm »

Here we go...Johnson needs 218 votes...

corbe · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:11:42 pm »

The dems love him, so he will get it after 4 failed votes, IMHO.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:15:58 pm »

Joe Concha
@JoeConchaTV
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So what’s Massie’s plan after he defies the incoming president? Who does he think can be the next speaker? Where are the votes for this person?

There is no plan. The election won’t be certified. Trump enters chaos. This is all about Massie’s ego & putting on a show. Nothing more

mystery-ak · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:16:32 pm »

Bret Baier
@BretBaier
I am told President-elect Trump this morning has made calls to a few so-called "undecided" Republicans on the speaker vote. We are told ALL of those calls were "positive" for Johnson -- notably NOT on the list was Rep. Thomas Massie who has made his no vote clear. There is cautious optimism in Trump world that Johnson will be elected as Speaker on the first ballot. But- they acknowledge there is some doubt. The President-elect is engaged and watching - and may make more calls.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:35:18 pm »

She was a hold out...

https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1875229400310091858

mystery-ak · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:40:38 pm »

Jamie Dupree
@jamiedupree
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433 members present. Rep. Hank Johnson D-GA did not vote. If he is absent, then Speaker Mike Johnson will need 217 votes for a majority.

rustynail · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2025, 12:43:09 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 03, 2025, 12:35:18 pm

She was a hold out...

https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1875229400310091858

Wonder if she is ever called Spaz?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:28:30 pm »

Leading Report
@LeadingReport
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BREAKING: Mike Johnson cannot be elected Speaker on the first ballot.

Second ballot or a Jeffries win

Johnson 175

Jeffries 175

Other 3

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:32:19 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 03, 2025, 12:05:27 pm

Here we go...Johnson needs 218 votes...

Republicans have 219 seats.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:33:44 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 03, 2025, 12:15:58 pm

Joe Concha
@JoeConchaTV
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4h
So what’s Massie’s plan after he defies the incoming president? Who does he think can be the next speaker? Where are the votes for this person?

There is no plan. The election won’t be certified. Trump enters chaos. This is all about Massie’s ego & putting on a show. Nothing more

Massie is a special kind of stupid.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:36:39 pm »

Johnson 210

Jeffries 212

other 3

mystery-ak · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:37:09 pm »

Another circus

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:39:18 pm »

Roy just voted for Johnson.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:41:05 pm »

Johnson's at 217 according to Fox.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:41:08 pm »

final vote...they have it since a Dem is not in DC

johnson 217

jeffries 213

other 3

Brett Baier stated this earlier

Elderberry · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:41:24 pm »

Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman

BREAKING: Ralph Norman votes for Jim Jordan for Speaker.

These people I swear.

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1875247281794117925

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:41:53 pm »

Change your damn vote, Massie.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:43:42 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 03, 2025, 01:37:09 pm

Another circus

And, for no reason.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:48:31 pm »

damnit....Johnson 216

Jeffries 214

this is the official tally

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:53:16 pm »

Meanwhile..

https://twitter.com/JDVance/status/1875252347443552518

Elderberry · « **Reply #25 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:54:03 pm »

Nonvoting Del. Stacey Plaskett protests that her votes and others don't count

Alexandra Marquez

Stacey Plaskett, a nonvoting Democratic delegate from the U.S. Virgin Islands, stood after the first roll-call vote to ask why delegates from the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the District of Columbia were not asked to vote for speaker.

Plaskett said that the delegates represent "collectively 4 million Americans" and added, "This body and this nation has a territory and a colonies problem," after the parliamentarian told her that delegates-elect were not eligible to vote for speaker.

"What should have been temporary has now effectively become permanent. We must do something about this," Plaskett said before the parliamentarian ceased to recognize her with time to speak.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #26 on:** January 03, 2025, 01:59:19 pm »

https://twitter.com/joma_gc/status/1875252083781513477

corbe · « **Reply #27 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:00:52 pm »

MTG is on the phone with Trump.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #28 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:15:29 pm »

216 Johnson

215 Jeffries

mystery-ak · « **Reply #29 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:16:07 pm »

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1875251686551515471

corbe · « **Reply #30 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:18:48 pm »

Mike Johnson is in negotiations with the 2 holdouts; Keith Self (TX) and Ralph Norman (SC). MTG is lobbying Massey. Gavel has not banged on the first vote. Johnson needs 2 of the 3.

corbe · « **Reply #31 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:22:39 pm »

I suspect Chip Roy will become Chairman of the House Rules Committee.

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #32 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:25:15 pm »

Idiots.

cato potatoe · « **Reply #33 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:27:13 pm »

Even when this gets sorted out, the new administration has ambitious plans that will die in the House. A few nitwits will expect to be paid off every time, and their demands will be a poison pill to some other faction.

Lando Lincoln · « **Reply #34 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:28:23 pm »

Quote from: Timber Rattler on January 03, 2025, 02:25:15 pm

Idiots.

Yes

corbe · « **Reply #35 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:30:31 pm »

Johnson flipped Self and Norman's votes, it appears.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #36 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:33:05 pm »

Okay...Johnson is voted Speaker....two Repub's changed their votes to get to 218

corbe · « **Reply #37 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:33:23 pm »

I was wrong in my estimation that it would take 4 voting cycles to elect a Speaker.

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #38 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:42:36 pm »

Quote from: Elderberry on January 03, 2025, 01:54:03 pm

Nonvoting Del. Stacey Plaskett protests that her votes and others don't count

Alexandra Marquez

Stacey Plaskett, a nonvoting Democratic delegate from the U.S. Virgin Islands, stood after the first roll-call vote to ask why delegates from the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the District of Columbia were not asked to vote for speaker.

Plaskett said that the delegates represent "collectively 4 million Americans" and added, "This body and this nation has a territory and a colonies problem," after the parliamentarian told her that delegates-elect were not eligible to vote for speaker.

"What should have been temporary has now effectively become permanent. We must do something about this," Plaskett said before the parliamentarian ceased to recognize her with time to speak.

No taxation without representation, no representation without taxation.

Territories do not pay federal income tax, therefore no special privileges for you Mz. Plaskett.

Lando Lincoln · « **Reply #39 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:43:30 pm »

So what has this accomplished? Did this move the needle on anything? Good grief.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #40 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:46:19 pm »

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1875266863707660589

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #41 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:46:31 pm »

Quote from: Lando Lincoln on January 03, 2025, 02:43:30 pm

So what has this accomplished? Did this move the needle on anything? Good grief.

Depends on whether the holdout side got concessions or not.

corbe · « **Reply #42 on:** January 03, 2025, 02:55:46 pm »

Chip Roy traded his vote for Johnson to become Chairman of the powerful House Rules Committee.

rustynail · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:00:30 pm »

Anyone see Nancy P. at the vote?

corbe · « **Reply #44 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:00:52 pm »

She was there

Elderberry · « **Reply #45 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:26:16 pm »

By NBC News

What to know about the new Congress

•   Rep. Mike Johnson was elected as House speaker during the first round of ballots with a razor-thin margin of 218-215.
•   Three Republicans initially defected from Johnson: Reps. Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Keith Self of Texas and Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Norman and Self switched their votes to Johnson after briefly meeting with him.
•   Massie voted for Majority Whip Tom Emmer. Every House Democrat voted for Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y.
•   With a slim majority in the House, Republicans may face some tough battles to pass legislation. Any dissent from within the caucus could doom a vote, while Democrats will be needed to pass most legislation in the Senate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/congress-first-day-2025-live-updates-rcna184508

mystery-ak · « **Reply #46 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:49:48 pm »

Can't help it..I love these things

https://twitter.com/RealJeffreyX/status/1875277568938831914

mystery-ak · « **Reply #47 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:51:29 pm »

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
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Democrats not only couldn’t stand, they don’t even applaud when Republican Speaker Johnson promises a secure border.

Make no mistake. This election was the salvation of America, and had we lost it, she would be gone forever.

Do not trust the left for anything.

Ever.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #48 on:** January 03, 2025, 03:55:51 pm »

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1875270297752105017

mystery-ak · « **Reply #49 on:** January 03, 2025, 04:04:35 pm »

https://twitter.com/Hunter_Eagleman/status/1875274986174431369