BREAKING: Video shows crash of Jeju Air Flight 2216 in South Korea. 181 people on board

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1873174704720425440

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1873176613795578347

[bigheadfred]

According to initial reports, there are currently 28 reported fatalities.

[mystery-ak]

Plane veers off airport runway in South Korea and crashes, killing at least 23: report
Jeju Air, a low-cost airline in South Korea, was carrying 175 passengers and 6 crew members
 By Sarah Rumpf-Whitten Fox News
Published December 28, 2024 8:48pm EST

A Jeju Air flight drove off the runway in South Korea and collided with a fence, leaving at least 23 passengers killed, the Yonhap news agency reported.

The agency attributed the devastating crash to malfunctioning landing gear.

Jeju Air, a low-cost airline in South Korea, was carrying 175 passengers and six crew members in the Boeing 737-800 when the incident occurred Sunday morning local time at Muan International Airport in Muan County, South Jeolla Province.


Firefighters carry out extinguishing operations on an aircraft which drove off runaway at Muan International Airport in Muan, South Jeolla Province, South Korea, on Dec. 29. (Yonhap via Reuters)

A Jeju Air flight drove off the runway in South Korea and collided with a fence, leaving at least 23 passengers killed, the Yonhap news agency reported.

The agency attributed the devastating crash to malfunctioning landing gear.

Jeju Air, a low-cost airline in South Korea, was carrying 175 passengers and six crew members in the Boeing 737-800 when the incident occurred Sunday morning local time at Muan International Airport in Muan County, South Jeolla Province.

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/plane-drives-off-runway-crashes-fence-leaving-least-23-dead-report

[mystery-ak]

always sit in the back of the plane...

[bigheadfred]

Hearing now there are 179 dead and only 2 survivors.

[DCPatriot]

Hearing now there are 179 dead and only 2 survivors.

Questions here:

Once it was known the landing gears were not operable, why didn't they conduct a "fuel dump" before touching down?

Why didn't the wing flaps engage to decelerate?   The video shows no signs of 'brakes' being applied.   

[bigheadfred]

Questions here:

Once it was known the landing gears were not operable, why didn't they conduct a "fuel dump" before touching down?

Why didn't the wing flaps engage to decelerate?   The video shows no signs of 'brakes' being applied.   

Best guess I can give you is there was catastrophic failure in more systems other than the landing gear and when it left the runway it was more or less doomed. If it had stayed on the runway it might not have been such a disaster.

[Smokin Joe]

Questions here:

Once it was known the landing gears were not operable, why didn't they conduct a "fuel dump" before touching down?

Why didn't the wing flaps engage to decelerate?   The video shows no signs of 'brakes' being applied.   

If it's a 737 it could not dump fuel, only burn it off by flying. If the controls were compromised or there were other problems, flying in circles was not an option. Watching the touchdown on the engine nacelles, they were doing a really good job of belly landing the plane until it went off the runway.
The gear can be deployed manually if there are no factors preventing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do2pIjz6zA4#:~:text=Nose%20landing%20gear%20and%20mainlining%20gear%20have,over%20center%20Springs%20will%20lock%20the%20gear
Howeveer, landing on one engine may have required higher speed to keep the aircraft stable. The pilots were doing a great job until they ran out of Runway (8000 ft.) and if possible should have diverted to Inchon where the runway is 13000 ft. Another mile might have made the difference, but that may not have been possible.

Waiting for more info.

[Smokin Joe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1r8dl4RqMw

[DCPatriot]

If it's a 737 it could not dump fuel, only burn it off by flying. If the controls were compromised or there were other problems, flying in circles was not an option. Watching the touchdown on the engine nacelles, they were doing a really good job of belly landing the plane until it went off the runway.
The gear can be deployed manually if there are no factors preventing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do2pIjz6zA4#:~:text=Nose%20landing%20gear%20and%20mainlining%20gear%20have,over%20center%20Springs%20will%20lock%20the%20gear
Howeveer, landing on one engine may have required higher speed to keep the aircraft stable. The pilots were doing a great job until they ran out of Runway (8000 ft.) and if possible should have diverted to Inchon where the runway is 13000 ft. Another mile might have made the difference, but that may not have been possible.

Waiting for more info.

Thank you much!   

[mountaineer]

Why are Boeing planes falling apart?

https://twitter.com/DerenicByrd/status/1874090878190621075
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Of course, this crash is still under investigation, so it may not be on Boeing at all.

NTSB Newsroom
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UPDATE: NTSB sent 3 investigators, including an accredited representative and investigators with specialties in operational factors and airworthiness, to South Korea to assist the Republic of Korea’s Aviation and Railway Accident Investigation Board (ARAIB) with their investigation of the Dec. 29 Jeju Air accident at Muan International Airport. The NTSB is leading the U.S. team, which includes traveling and non-traveling technical advisors from the FAA, Boeing and CFM International. The NTSB team began arriving today in South Korea. Additional NTSB investigative staff are standing by to assist if needed, including specialists in recorders, powerplants, and survival factors, among other specialties.
8:46 PM · Dec 30, 2024

This was as of 12/29:

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1873378650311078142

[PeteS in CA]

Ummm ... is it news that a Boeing 737-800 is not a 737 Max? And that this particular Boeing 737-800 was delivered in 2009, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_Air_Flight_2216#Aircraft ? That means that the plane that crashed has, very possibly, 10,000-20,000 flight hours and God knows how many maintenance cycles. IOW the crash has zero to do with Boeing quality issues.

[MeganC]

I wonder who it was who said, "You know what we need at the end of the runway? A solid concrete fortification!"

 

[Smokin Joe]

I wonder who it was who said, "You know what we need at the end of the runway? A solid concrete fortification!"

 

Right. That is what made this deadly. Despite the fact that it appears the flaps were retracted, the spoilers were not up (which may have been to maintain stability making a one-engine landing), the plane was coming in level with about the same contact appearance on both nacelles with the runway. It was a picture perfect (if somewhat high speed) wheels up landing--until they hit the reinforced concrete wall at the end of the runway with the localizer antenna array.
Had that plane had more field, or the array been more conventionally mounted on small towers, the damage would have been less severe and there would likely have been many more survivors. I'm not so sure the pilots should be getting blamed for this, although if they could have made Inchon (about 20 miles), they would have had about a mile more runway.

[mountaineer]

Ummm ... is it news that a Boeing 737-800 is not a 737 Max? And that this particular Boeing 737-800 was delivered in 2009, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_Air_Flight_2216#Aircraft ? That means that the plane that crashed has, very possibly, 10,000-20,000 flight hours and God knows how many maintenance cycles. IOW the crash has zero to do with Boeing quality issues.

I think we comprehend the 737-800 is not the same as a 737 MAX.

[PeteS in CA]

I think we comprehend the 737-800 is not the same as a 737 MAX.

Yet you posted the X post from Derenic Byrd which brought up the 737 Max as an answer to, "Why are Boeing planes falling apart?"

[Smokin Joe]

Something about slamming into a reinforced concrete barrier would make any aircraft fall apart. 

[mountaineer]

What No One Is Saying About Korea's Deadliest Plane Crash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0EgD7urF9Q