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‘We Dug It, We Own It’ ~ Greenfield
« on: December 27, 2024, 10:48:16 am »
‘We Dug It, We Own It’

The case for taking back the Panama Canal.

December 27, 2024 by Daniel Greenfield



In 1978, the Carter administration made a deal with General Omar Torrijos, the uniformed socialist strongman who had seized power in Panama, to abandon America’s crown jewel.

The Panama Canal had been built with over a decade of labor and half a billion of early twentieth century dollars by American engineers and visionaries who succeeded where the British and the French had failed, in the process they created a new country, Panama, and new trade routes.

Jimmy Carter had run for office promising to oppose a surrender of the canal. As with most of his policies, he turned out to have been lying. Even though the majority of Americans opposed the giveaway, Carter, Democrat Senate Majority Leader and KKK leader Robert Byrd, teamed up with GOP Senate Minority Leader Howard Baker, the worst RINO in Senate history, to conduct the surrender. This move would cost Baker his chances at a presidential nomination.

While Reagan’s election triumph tends to be credited to the economy, there is no doubt that his declaration, “we dug it, we own it” about the Panama Canal powered him to a primary win over Baker who was the favorite son of the D.C. establishment and Rockefeller Republicans.

Carter, the Klansman and the RINO managed to get the two Senate Republican votes they needed, including former Sen. Bob Packwood, and ensured the rise of Reagan and a conservative revolution. America lost the canal but it also bid goodbye to Jimmy Carter.

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Re: ‘We Dug It, We Own It’ ~ Greenfield
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2024, 11:53:48 am »
A deal is a deal and Carter made a bad deal. Still and all we need to honor that deal.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2024, 05:56:09 pm »
I'd have to read the entire agreement before I make a decision. Since I really don't think it's going to happen I won't waste my time.

Do I think the canal should have been given to Panama? No, it was a dumb move. But, once again, I would have to understand the politics behind it.

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2024, 07:57:26 pm »
   

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2024, 08:08:05 pm »
A deal is a deal and Carter made a bad deal. Still and all we need to honor that deal.

Agreed.
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Re: ‘We Dug It, We Own It’ ~ Greenfield
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2024, 08:30:36 pm »
A deal is a deal and Carter made a bad deal. Still and all we need to honor that deal.

What country, other than ours, stays in a deal that isn't good for it from a geopolitical and/or financial POV?

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2024, 08:44:27 pm »
  In a world of nuclear missiles and subsonic Aircraft you Trumpers would want to go to WAR with the Chinese over a F'in Canal.
 
  If Trump said Jesus was a Fraud, you'd denounce your Religious Affiliation and probably ask for a refund.

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2024, 08:57:18 pm »
  In a world of nuclear missiles and subsonic Aircraft you Trumpers would want to go to WAR with the Chinese over a F'in Canal.

Maybe they should rename it the 'Danzig Corridor'.
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Re: ‘We Dug It, We Own It’ ~ Greenfield
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2024, 05:14:04 pm »
  In a world of nuclear missiles and subsonic Aircraft you Trumpers would want to go to WAR with the Chinese over a F'in Canal.
 
  If Trump said Jesus was a Fraud, you'd denounce your Religious Affiliation and probably ask for a refund.

TDS much?
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2024, 05:40:42 pm »
"TDS much?"

That's why I've had him "on ignore" for almost all the years I've been here.
That will remain so, as long as I remain here.

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2024, 06:32:39 pm »
TDS much?

   It's directly proportional to how much I've had to drink....@MeganC

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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 06:38:00 pm »
A deal is a deal and Carter made a bad deal. Still and all we need to honor that deal.

Yeah, there are ratified treaties in place.  If Trump breaks them and seizes the canal zone, then he's no better than Putin and Xi.  The proper strategy is to negotiate a new treaty with Panama that is more favorable to the U.S. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 07:15:41 pm »
  ......  would want to go to WAR with the Chinese over a F'in Canal.

No one wants war.  But, China in control of "a F'in Canal" could provoke it.  A little preemptive thinking is needed here ----
 



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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 07:17:39 pm »
That's why I've had him "on ignore" for almost all the years I've been here.

You're missing out.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2024, 07:27:06 pm »
Nicaragua's $50BN Panama Canal Rival


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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2024, 07:33:09 pm »
No one wants war.

I see you've never met a Russian or a Muslim.
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2024, 07:48:25 pm »
I see you've never met a Russian or a Muslim.

No one wants war .... It's the failure of political negotiations involving weak nations.

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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2024, 08:06:15 pm »
   This Panama thing along with the Greenland/Canada thing is just stupid $hit that runs forth on Trump Socialist to keep his adherents in line till the inauguration.
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2024, 08:38:58 pm »
What country, other than ours, stays in a deal that isn't good for it from a geopolitical and/or financial POV?
All of them?
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2024, 01:48:53 pm »
No one wants war

Russia Media Monitor and MEMRI TV prove otherwise almost every single day.
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2024, 02:26:20 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2024, 02:32:33 pm »
Russia Media Monitor and MEMRI TV prove otherwise almost every single day.

No one wants war.  But once it starts, all bets are off.  Lesson:  Don't allow the war to start.

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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2024, 02:46:03 pm »
Here comes the Sell-Out-Ukraine-For-Trump's-Buddy-Putin routine.

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2024, 02:59:50 pm »
Here comes the Sell-Out-Ukraine-For-Trump's-Buddy-Putin routine.

Ukraine has always been, and remains, a hub of global corruption masquerading as a country.  Don't take my word for this, just ask Hunter.

All the warmongers are doing is feeding their own corruption and killing off an entire generation of Ukrainian men in the process.  Another proud moment for them.







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Re: ‘We Dug It, We Own It’ ~ Greenfield
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2024, 03:09:50 pm »
Ukraine has always been, and remains, a hub of global corruption masquerading as a country.  Don't take my word for this, just ask Hunter.

All the warmongers are doing is feeding their own corruption and killing off an entire generation of Ukrainian men in the process.  Another proud moment for them.

Exactly right.