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CDC Rolls Out 200 “Routine Vaccines” for 2025, Way Up From 1983’s Seven Routine Childhood Injections, Zero for Adults and Pregnant Women

By Belle Carter, Natural News • Dec. 12, 2024


(Natural News)—In November, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published the vaccine schedule for 2025, naming over 200 routine injections for children and teenagers, adults and pregnant women.

From 1983 up to 1986, when the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, otherwise known as the Vaccine Act passed the U.S. Congress, there were only seven vaccines for children, including diphtheria, tetanus toxoids and pertussis (DPT), oral attenuated poliovirus (OPV), measles, mumps and rubella virus (MMR) and adult tetanus and diphtheria toxoids (TD). There were no vaccines recommended for adults and pregnant women.

However, the 1986 Vaccine Act gave Big Pharma mandatory and national liability protection for the medical community. It also limited the venue for a vaccine claim to Washington DC. Moreover, there were no more universal releases, mass communication or documentation provided to parents on what to watch out for following the vaccination schedule.

Vaccine activists have been lobbying against the Vaccine Act since the beginning, as it “tilted the balance of public good against individual rights and protection.” Critics point out that victims of vaccine injuries are left with the long-term side effects of the jabs, while the medical community and Big Pharma are protected from any accountability. Worse, they continue to create more and more experimental injections.

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CDC's own paper: Children vaccinated with Pfizer without prior covid infection were 257% more likely to develop symptomatic COVID compared to unvaccinated children without prior infection.

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I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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I am astounded by morons that want to return to the days of rampant polio, smallpox, measles, scarlet fever, scurvy, tetanus, etc.

The good ol' days were only good if you survived to adulthood.

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Oh, sure, let's have more cases of shingles and pneumonia among us old folks, because back in the old days there were only childhood vaccinations and vaccines show some undesirable side-effects in a tiny fraction of the population.
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I am astounded by morons that want to return to the days of rampant polio, smallpox, measles, scarlet fever, scurvy, tetanus, etc.
I don't believe those of us who are alarmed at the steep rise in CDC-recommended shots for infant and small children want to return to the days of smallpox, etc. We simply question some like covid and hep B for babies, and want to see scientific justification.
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There is way too much hyperbole on both sides of this issue.
There are too many vaccines being given to babies within a very short period of time.
Some of those vaccines are very important and helpful.
These two things can be simultaneously true.
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Exactly. No problem with polio, smallpox and, basically, the shots my siblings and I got. HPV, Covid, and the newest ones seem unnecessary, especially for developing children.
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There is way too much hyperbole on both sides of this issue.
There are too many vaccines being given to babies within a very short period of time.
Some of those vaccines are very important and helpful.
These two things can be simultaneously true.
Right. 'Is this shot really necessary? ' should be the question asked.
I have been vaccinated against Polio, Smallpox, and a few others, and had many Tetanus shots over the years. My childhood immunization record, though, fits easily on one side of a 3X5 card. I didn't die.  :shrug:
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They shouldn't give vaccines at too you an age if there is no significant risk of infection and there is no significant proof of benefit.

Injecting too many foreign substances into young, developing immune systems could have unintended consequences.

One difference in modernity is that many working people have to put babies and toddlers into daycare.  I didn't attend pre-school until I was 4 years old.  So, this generation's babies and toddlers are exposed to circumstances for communicable ailments at a much younger age than I was.  This is a big socio-economic-health difference among the generations.
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They shouldn't give vaccines at too you an age if there is no significant risk of infection and there is no signicant proof of benefit.

Injecting too many foreign substances into young, developing immune systems could have unintended consequences.

One difference in modernity is that many working people have to put babies and toddlers into daycare.  I didn't attend pre-school until I was 4 years old.  So, this generation's babies and toddlers are exposed to circumstances for communicable ailments that I didn't have to face until I was 4 years old.  This is a big socio-economic difference among the generations.
You have a valid point. I didn't get into the state required pathogen exchange program until first grade at the ripe old age of 5.
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You have a valid point. I didn't get into the state required pathogen exchange program until first grade at the ripe old age of 5.


Yeah, same here.  And within that first year, I ended up with measles, mumps, and chicken pox.
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Yeah, same here.  And within that first year, I ended up with measles, mumps, and chicken pox.
My brother, three years older than I, had already brought those souvenirs home...
I remember Mumps being of concern for adults who hadn't had it as kids, but the others not so much. It was just a rite of passage, and there were even parents who would let their kids get infected (when they knew it was going to happen) and get it over with so they'd acquire natural immunity from there.
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I heard a radio ad today from Pfizer. It was directed to black folks. Someone portraying a black teen is purportedly talking to his mother, encouraging her to get the Covid vax because "black people like us" should get it, because of diabetes, various other diseases, and mental health issues. These are the folks who most need the Covid vax, apparently.

Excuse me? How does having a mental health problem make anyone - black, white or any other hue - more susceptible to the Covid virus and, thus, in need of Pfizer's clot shot?
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I heard a radio ad today from Pfizer. It was directed to black folks. Someone portraying a black teen is purportedly talking to his mother, encouraging her to get the Covid vax because "black people like us" should get it, because of diabetes, various other diseases, and mental health issues. These are the folks who most need the Covid vax, apparently.

Excuse me? How does having a mental health problem make anyone - black, white or any other hue - more susceptible to the Covid virus and, thus, in need of Pfizer's clot shot?
Well, they might be crazy enough to get it (the shot).
After all, most were administered during a mass panic.

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To each their own, just don't expect me to pick up the tab, and don't mandate your choices for me.
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Help me understand how the former head of the CDC "hasn't studied the childhood vaccine schedule."

https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1897253167257280725
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You have a valid point. I didn't get into the state required pathogen exchange program until first grade at the ripe old age of 5.

I never was vaccinated except for I believe Polio and contracted Measles, German measles and Mumps before I started school.

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200 vaccines??? Am I reading that correctly?  For children and pregnant women?  That's craziness.  How many vaccines can a child's body handle, before the body resists or reacts??  So they're injecting women and the unborn?

Paging RFK Jr.

When my kids were little they got the vaccines in order to get into school, but my son had a reaction to one of the vaccines and the doctor cut back his next dose.  He reported on his records that he was fully vaccinated in order to get into school.

Obviously not all kids are going to sail through without any complications from so many vaccines. 

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They want newborns to get hepatitis vaccines.  :thud:
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They want newborns to get hepatitis vaccines.  :thud:

I saw that.  Newborns generally have some immunity when they are born, especially if the mother is healthy and breast-feeds.

IF 200 vaccines are needed -- then Mexico needs to step up to the plate and start vaccinating those crossing into their country and waiting to enter ours. 

200 vaccinations is absolutely insane as is vaccinating newborns.  So little Joey, or Sally is going to have to spend quite a bit of time at the doctors offices and if they have a reaction, how in the heck or they going to know what vaccine caused it???   9999hair out0000
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The pressure on parents for newborns to receive an inordinate number of vaccines within the first days of birth is wrong.  It is all about the pharma companies making money, and has nothing to do with the wellbeing of children.  NOTHING!!!

Trump should put a commission together to determine vaccines that can be delayed to older ages in children.  I suspect 80% of them could be delayed until they are of school age.

Autism virtually did not exist years ago.  If not vaccines, then what?  Medical care in the USA is totally bolloxed, with little to no science in the equation.

The FDA would normally pull a vaccine off the market when 25-50 people died of a vaccine.  We have thousands of young people dying with heart issues, mortality rates are up 10% in all the highly vaxxed countries for the COVID vaccine.  This vaccine must be halted for all but those who have certain health issues.  Healthy people should not get this vaccine.
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I never was vaccinated except for I believe Polio and contracted Measles, German measles and Mumps before I started school.


If memory serves correctly, you were required to get a smallpox vaccine by the time you were 8 years of age.  That was the vaccine that left a scar on your left arm.  In my life, I have had 2 smallpox vaccines.  When I was 16, I was told I would need another smallpox vaccine to travel to Europe in 1970.  Got that and a booster tetanus shot to travel to Europe.

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Ok, I'll just come out and pose the question; are they trying to kill our children through vaccines now?  COVID wasn't enough?  Sex change operations aren't enough? What is going to be the outcome in the future for all of these kids?

Homeschooling is becoming a necessity to avoid Big Brother's thumb on our children.  However prices are so high, many times it takes the income of two parents to put a roof over their head and food in their bellies.  Things are way out of control.

RFK Jr. needs to somehow stop this crappola.

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If memory serves correctly, you were required to get a smallpox vaccine by the time you were 8 years of age.  That was the vaccine that left a scar on your left arm.  In my life, I have had 2 smallpox vaccines.  When I was 16, I was told I would need another smallpox vaccine to travel to Europe in 1970.  Got that and a booster tetanus shot to travel to Europe.

I have a scar on my thigh -- perhaps that was small pox?  I don't have a scar on either arm.

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The pressure on parents for newborns to receive an inordinate number of vaccines within the first days of birth is wrong.  It is all about the pharma companies making money, and ahs nothing to do with the wellbeing of children.  NOTHING!!!

Trump should put a commission together to determine vaccines that can be delayed to older ages in children.  I suspect 80% of them could be delayed until they are of school age.

Autism virtually did not exist years ago.  If not vaccines, then what?  Medical care in the USA is totally bolloxed, with little to no science in the equation.

The FDA would normally pull a vaccine off the market when 25-50 people died of a vaccine.  We have thousands of young people dying with heart issues, mortality rates are up 10% in all the highly vaxxed countries for the COVID vaccine.  This vaccine must be halted for all but those who have certain health issues.  Healthy people should not get this vaccine.

200 vaccines is beyond absurd.  How many of these vaccines have been appropriately tested (though the FDA is no longer reputable)?  The CDC as it is needs to be abolished.

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With the influx of illegal invaders into the USA, disease is more wide spread.  Literally, the government has not been protecting our population the last four years.  40% of the people in the USA were not born here.

My wife is an immigrant.  She had to undergo a very thorough physical exam before entering the USA.  But the 30-50 million illegal invading aliens were not checked for any disease.  And the diseases they brought with them is absolutely why we have had many of the outbreaks that have happened through the past few years.   The latest being measles.

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200 vaccines is beyond absurd.  How many of these vaccines have been appropriately tested (though the FDA is no longer reputable)?  The CDC as it is needs to be abolished.

I still have the smallpox scar. The only other vaccine I recall is being lined up when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade and everybody was given a polio vaccine on a sugar cube.
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I am astounded by morons that want to return to the days of rampant polio, smallpox, measles, scarlet fever, scurvy, tetanus, etc.

The good ol' days were only good if you survived to adulthood.



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I imagine a lot of us remember getting blood tests before being allowed to marry... Now days I imagine that VD would wipe out half of all marriage requests.
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I still have the smallpox scar. The only other vaccine I recall is being lined up when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade and everybody was given a polio vaccine on a sugar cube.

What a terrifying day that used to be, watching all your classmates getting their mandatory government shots and waiting for your turn. I hated it. I have the smallpox scar too. The sugar cube was nice though.  *****rollingeyes*****
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I still have the smallpox scar. The only other vaccine I recall is being lined up when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade and everybody was given a polio vaccine on a sugar cube.
I had the smallpox vaccine, too, and remember getting the Polio vaccine. My mom saved my original vaccine card, and I think it only had four or five entries... not counting the tetanus shots I had over the years.
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   You know when I think about it, I can trace all my abnormal behavior back to my shot in 72.

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 The CDC as it is needs to be abolished.

We usually agree on most things, but not on this.  The CDC has a key function to perform in regard to public health.  And their role is more important today than ever.  With tens of millions of illegal invaders roaming around, attending our schools, disease is more of a threat than ever before.

And in a world where scientists are attempting to make bacteria and viruses more virulent than ever, the CDC will continue to be more important. 

What the Trump Administration needs to do is to remove the CDC from the political sphere, and make it more focused on its mission.  To start, the head of the CDC should be a 10 year  appointment, just like the FBI or CIA.  The recent Biden appointee, Rachelle Walensky, was a horrible head of the CDC.  Grossly beyond her abilities!!!!!  The agency floundered under her direction IMHO.

But many of the diseases they are dealing with are serious, and deadly.  And they are in circulation in the country.  The three my wife works on are all deadly.  You get them, you die.

To end the CDC would be like you taking an ax and cutting your arm off.  Doesn't make sense.  Unfortunately, it is all about the politics, and this is one agency that should not be ensconced in politics.

The world will continue to become more deadly as governments continue to enhance pathogens and make them more deadly.  Couple that with a group of elite and wealthy folks that want to take the global population down to millions versus billions, to save the planet in their mind, and this world again becomes more deadly.

Expect more releases of deadly pathogens into the future, and I expect them to be more deadly than the COVID virus.  The CDC is being cut by 20%.  Believe me, the folks being cut are many of the first responders in the event of an outbreak.  The people that are protected are folks that do not contribute to responding to outbreaks, and are minorities that in my humble opinion do little.  This is why the approach I would like to see taken by Trump, that entails analysis of the work actually performed would reduce agencies like the CDC more effectively.




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The CDC... many of the diseases they are dealing with are serious, and deadly. 

Those diseases would be less serious and deadly without the CDC paying for illegal gain-of-function weaponization of viruses.

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Big news: The CDC is planning to carry out a study on potential links between vaccines and autism. The media will predictably lose their minds because drug companies are their largest advertisers. Even the most pro-vax should want this studied in a manner that everyone can trust.
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Big news: The CDC is planning to carry out a study on potential links between vaccines and autism. The media will predictably lose their minds because drug companies are their largest advertisers. Even the most pro-vax should want this studied in a manner that everyone can trust.
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Big news: The CDC is planning to carry out a study on potential links between vaccines and autism. The media will predictably lose their minds because drug companies are their largest advertisers. Even the most pro-vax should want this studied in a manner that everyone can trust.
11:25 AM · Mar 7, 2025

Story at Reuters

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I think I had some vacs as a baby. :shrug: But as far as I know all I had later was polio and smallpox. I also had measles (twice), mumps and chickenpox and I'm still here

200 vacs is crazy. Especially since some are administered together. That's dangerous. Vets administer combination vacs and I wouldn't even do that. I would just take them back for separate visits.

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The CDC recommends a Covid vax in utero. That is utterly insane.
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The CDC recommends a Covid vax in utero. That is utterly insane.

Insane is right. I don't trust our gov't, especially the CDC.  IMO they are trying to kill our babies and toddlers, or make some sort of genetic modification.

You watch, unless the mother is willing to give her unborn the covid vax in utero, her insurance won't cover the pregnancy nor the child after birth or she and the baby won't qualify for Medicaid.

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Those diseases would be less serious and deadly without the CDC paying for illegal gain-of-function weaponization of viruses.

You are misinformed.  It was Dr Anthony Fauci at the NIH that funded gain of function research in China, against the express direction of the then POTUS, Obama.  The NIH is a very separate agency.

Right now, Trump/Musk are cutting 20% of the CDC without it having a head to represent the agency.  And the folks that should be cut are being protected. 

This spells just one thing in my mind with the next outbreak, more folks dying than we have to lose.

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Ok, I'll just come out and pose the question; are they trying to kill our children through vaccines now?  COVID wasn't enough?  Sex change operations aren't enough? What is going to be the outcome in the future for all of these kids?

Homeschooling is becoming a necessity to avoid Big Brother's thumb on our children.  However prices are so high, many times it takes the income of two parents to put a roof over their head and food in their bellies.  Things are way out of control.

RFK Jr. needs to somehow stop this crappola.

The answer is yes, there are those in the world, most elite folks that want you and everyone you know dead.  They want to save the planet, taking it to a global population of millions, not billions, and they believe any method to achieve that outcome is reasonable, including using vaccines to accomplish that goal.

I encourage all of you to read the book Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward Haslam.  A rather shocking book about vaccines, and other true events that took place years ago. 

The future for all the kids encouraged to go down the road of transgender idiocy is sterility, and many when they realize how they damaged their body will commit suicide.  But for those promoting this, reducing the global population by any means possible is their goal.

That is why when I see a young minor child being encouraged or supported by their parents to pursue transgender bullsh*t, I consider it pure child abuse, and the folks advising those parents should lose their license to practice anything.  John Hopkins, a leader in the transgender surgery halted the surgery because they decided these folks were suffering a mental disorder.  They resumes the surgery when they realized the revenue they were losing.

President Trump will have some success halting this abomination, but it will resume with the next Dem administration.

I suspect Robert Kennedy Jr, will barely scratch the surface of this intentional attack on reducing fertility of the USA.

The UGLY TRUTH is that fertility is down 50% in the USA in recent years?  Why?  You think that was just by chance?  Hell no.  it is forces and folks working to produce that outcome.  There is a ton of evil out there today.

I applaud any parent that has the intent to home school their children which is no small task.  It is quite involved and demanding.

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Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Serious and Irreversible Neurological, Developmental, and Immune-Related Health Risks
Four Studies Reveal the Grave Consequences of Childhood Hyper-Vaccination
Feb 03, 2025
by Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

When studies compare vaccinated to unvaccinated children, they find serious and irreversible neurological, developmental, and immune-related health risks. This is likely one of the primary reasons that prevents Big Pharma and our regulatory agencies from conducting such studies — their flawed business model of pushing inadequately tested injections would collapse as parents learn the true risks of vaccination. It’s important to remember that ALL of the routine childhood vaccines were licensed WITHOUT proper long-term, placebo-controlled trials:  ... https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-serious
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RFK Jr. Readies CDC For Changes In Vaccine Policies

Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appears to be gearing up for potentially substantial changes in vaccine policies, specifically with respect to the federal government’s messaging and the composition of the advisory panel responsible for making recommendations on vaccination schedules.

Kennedy is planning to remove several members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices due to what he views as conflicts of interest.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2025/03/01/rfk-jr-readies-cdc-for-changes-in-vaccine-policies/?hmpid=

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I said, Those diseases would be less serious and deadly without the CDC paying for illegal gain-of-function weaponization of viruses.

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You are misinformed.  It was Dr Anthony Fauci at the NIH that funded gain of function research in China, against the express direction of the then POTUS, Obama.  The NIH is a very separate agency.

Right now, Trump/Musk are cutting 20% of the CDC without it having a head to represent the agency.  And the folks that should be cut are being protected. 

This spells just one thing in my mind with the next outbreak, more folks dying than we have to lose.

It took me a while to find the specific citation FROM THE CDC but here it is:

https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/flu/avianflu/avian-durc-qa.htm

Has CDC done “gain of function” research on highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N1) in the past?

Yes. CDC has conducted “gain of function” research in the past on HPAI viruses as part of pandemic preparedness efforts. For example, in 2006 CDC conducted an experiment that sought to understand how Asian A(H5N1) bird flu viruses might become more transmissible in mammals (1). The study assessed the ability of highly pathogenic Asian A(H5N1) bird flu viruses to mix with human flu viruses through a process called “reassortment” that can occur in nature. Reassortment can result in the creation of new flu viruses with pandemic potential. This work was performed in BSL-3 enhanced laboratory facilities. Although CDC researchers were able to successfully create new flu viruses that shared genes from both Asian A(H5N1) bird flu and human flu viruses, the resulting viruses appeared to lack the molecular and biologic properties needed for efficient spread. The results suggested that these A(H5N1) bird flu viruses required further genetic change to gain the properties needed to cause a human pandemic.

A similar study was conducted in 2009 that conducted a health risk assessment of the ability of human seasonal A(H3N2) flu viruses to mix with certain A(H5N1) bird flu viruses in a laboratory setting (2). This study concluded that continued exposure of humans and animals to both A(H5N1) bird flu viruses and A(H3N2) seasonal viruses increased the risk of producing new H5 viruses that could produce infectious secretions in the upper airways of mammals.

Other CDC GOF studies on Asian A(H5N1) viruses included looking at how mutations to the surface proteins of the virus could affect the “receptor binding preference” of these viruses (3). The receptor binding preference determines the hosts that a flu virus is best suited to infecting, such as birds as opposed to mammals. Results from this study found that mutations that changed the receptor binding preference from birds to humans also tended to reduce the virus’ ability to replicate (i.e., make copies of itself for the purpose of spreading infection.) The authors concluded that alternative molecular changes would be needed for these A(H5N1) viruses to fully adapt to humans and be capable of causing a pandemic.

Another such study examined in a laboratory environment evolutionary changes that would need to occur for the receptor binding preference of specific Asian A(H5N1) viruses to change so that they would be better suited to infecting and causing illness in people as opposed to birds (4). This study concluded that extensive evolution of existing A(H5N1) viruses at that time would need to occur before these they could become fully transmissible in humans. Other scientists have conducted gain-of-function research on Asian A(H5N1) viruses and identified molecular changes that increase the ability of those viruses to transmit in mammals via infectious respiratory droplets.
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For example, in 2006 CDC conducted an experiment that sought to understand how Asian A(H5N1) bird flu viruses might become more transmissible in mammals

Gee, and what happens this last year? Bird flu jumps into humans when it never did before.  22222frying pan
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