Trump expected to discharge transgenders out of the military immediately – up to 15,000

[mystery-ak]

Trump expected to discharge transgenders out of the military immediately – up to 15,000
November 25, 2024 | Chris Donaldson

President-elect Donald J. Trump is preparing to reverse the “woke” transformation of the military that has taken place under the Biden regime, reportedly including giving transgenders the boot on his “first day in office,” according to a bombshell report.

On Sunday, The Times reported that the incoming president is “planning an executive order that would lead to the removal of all transgender members of the US military,” citing the usual unnamed sources that are a hallmark of mainstream media stories.

The UK-based outlet claims that Trump plans to issue an executive order that transgender service members be “medically discharged” as soon as he returns to the White House on January 20, 2025.

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1860818976248349075

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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/11/25/trump-expected-to-discharge-transgenders-out-of-the-military-immediately-up-to-15000-1505226/

[mountaineer]

A gay conservative (who describes himself as, "Gay, not STUPID") has posted this on X:

Jarrod Rodriguez 🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈
@JarrodRodrigue1
As the issue of transgender people in the military comes back into the spotlight, critics have raise concerns about its impact on readiness, cohesion, and morale. 
Here are the top 8 arguments for banning transgender people in the military: 🧵
8:18 AM · Nov 25, 2024

1) Combat Demands Peak Performance - Combat roles require strength, endurance, and resilience at the highest levels. Critics argue that hormone treatments associated with transitioning may reduce muscle mass, stamina, and bone density, potentially creating physical disparities that undermine trust and effectiveness in life-or-death scenarios.

2) Readiness Is Non-Negotiable - The military relies on every service member being deployable 24/7. Surgeries and hormone therapies often require extended recovery periods, which critics say create gaps in availability and weaken overall readiness—a cornerstone of military success.

3) Cohesion Relies on Trust - Cohesion within units depends on trust in every member’s ability to perform under pressure. Concerns about mental health challenges or potential tensions in communication could disrupt that trust, weakening morale and team effectiveness.

4) Recruitment Challenges - With the military already facing a recruitment crisis, critics say that prioritizing inclusivity risks alienating traditional recruits who value discipline, meritocracy, and shared military values. Restoring these principles is seen as key to attracting and retaining top talent.

5) Privacy in Shared Spaces - Barracks, showers, and restrooms are shared by service members in close quarters. Critics raise concerns that including transgender individuals in these spaces could create discomfort, especially for female service members, and lead to unnecessary tension.

6) Logistical Distractions - Accommodating transgender individuals requires changes to uniforms, fitness standards, and housing policies. Some argue that extra accommodations add logistical complexity and distract leadership from mission-critical priorities like training and combat readiness.

7) Adversarial Advantages - America’s enemies (China/Russia) prioritize operational strength without debates over social policies. Critics warn that a loss of focus on readiness and discipline risks giving these nations a strategic edge.

8) The Mission Comes First - The military’s primary role is to defend the nation and win wars. Critics argue that policies perceived as prioritizing social agendas over operational effectiveness risk eroding public trust and undermining the military’s ability to succeed.

Conclusion - The arguments for banning transgender people in the military center on concerns about readiness, cohesion, and morale—especially in combat roles where trust and performance are critical. Critics emphasize the need to prioritize the mission above all else.

[mountaineer]

Apparently, some of these whackjobs are joining the military just to get the free "gender reassignment" surgery.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1861067702795735183

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

 

[jafo2010]

He will get push back in the courts, but if this is what he wants, I agree 100%.

We have become a nation led by freaks, and it must end.  Biden is a total disgrace, and the fact the bad guys are running amuck is no mystery why.

[SZonian]

People with Type 1 diabetes are prohibited from signing up due to the required medications and dosage regimen. They can't deploy so are dq'd from service.

Yet, these trans kooks can bleed off valuable medical resources in pursuit of their illness and it's all "okay" because someone else will have to fill their deployment.

They're not deployable, they're not in the same medical and physical conditioning as their "peers", and they're generally a side show and a distraction while at home station.

They need to go.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So... how does he know which are transgenders?

[rustynail]

Is it against some law for Trump to use medical records to identify the trans?

[LadyLiberty]

At the very least Trump could just say no more US taxpayer $ for medical support for transitions (drugs or surgery), and they would stop enlisting due to lack of this benefit. The ones remaining in the military would "self deport," either by finishing out their time or by claiming mental problems.

[SZonian]

So... how does he know which are transgenders?

Don't worry, like vegans or atheists, they'll tell you. 

[catfish1957]

As much as I like to see if happen, I don't think it meets the civil rights muster in court. 

[SZonian]

As much as I like to see if happen, I don't think it meets the civil rights muster in court.

Serving in the Armed Forces is not a "right".

[Polly Ticks]

Physical condition is a BFOQ for service in the military. If someone with fully-controlled asthma cannot serve due to their dependence on medication, then it stands to reason that a transgender person should not be able to do so either.  Especially not if they are only serving in order to have taxpayer-funding "gender affirming" care.

Not to mention that mental illness is disqualifying for military service.

[mountaineer]

So... how does he know which are transgenders?

They seem to be the ones applying for taxpayer-funded surgery.

[mountaineer]

Nancy Mace
@NancyMace
If you've received a prescription for ADHD medicine you are ineligible to join the US military. But if you are a mentally ill man who thinks they are a woman, you can join the military and the U.S. government will pay for your sex change.
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10:06 AM · Nov 25, 2024

Tartag
@AlbertSTartagl1
I was in the Army unlike you. They don't want you having to take medicine during training. You can still join. Just have to be off of it for a little or get a waiver. Once done with basic and AIT you can take it again
The military gives our Adderall to troops with ADHD.
10:11 AM · Nov 25, 2024

[libertybele]

Nancy Mace
@NancyMace
If you've received a prescription for ADHD medicine you are ineligible to join the US military. But if you are a mentally ill man who thinks they are a woman, you can join the military and the U.S. government will pay for your sex change.
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10:06 AM · Nov 25, 2024

Tartag
@AlbertSTartagl1
I was in the Army unlike you. They don't want you having to take medicine during training. You can still join. Just have to be off of it for a little or get a waiver. Once done with basic and AIT you can take it again
The military gives our Adderall to troops with ADHD.
10:11 AM · Nov 25, 2024

Unbelievable.  I had no idea. 

[the OlLine Rebel]

What on the world is that old, fat thing?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

They seem to be the ones applying for taxpayer-funded surgery.

Well... yes if they want to transition but what if they already have?

[mountaineer]

Well... yes if they want to transition but what if they already have?

Just a guess, but maybe they join the military as their original sex, with all their original parts "intact" - they're just waiting till they've survived basic training and are still active duty before applying for govt-paid surgery.

[catfish1957]

Serving in the Armed Forces is not a "right".

Meant that term broadly in terms of EEO, Affirmative Action, and general work rights.  That doesn't even count dealing with the Union.

[rangerrebew]

Trump Reportedly Weighs Immediate Discharge of All Transgender Troops. Here's What That Would Mean.
 
 
Military.com | By Konstantin Toropin and Thomas Novelly
Published November 25, 2024 at 5:32pm ET

President-elect Donald Trump's transition team is developing an executive order that would medically discharge the estimated 15,000 transgender service members from the military, according to several international news outlets. The sudden dismissal of so many troops would prove chaotic, advocates supporting LGBTQ+ service members say, and the military services would be forced to fill gaps and compensate for a loss of experience at a time when recruiting remains a struggle.

Trump transition team spokesperson Karoline Leavitt did not deny the accuracy of the reports when emailed by Military.com, but said that "no decisions on this issue have been made."
 
"These unnamed sources are speculating and have no idea what they are actually talking about," she added.
 

The proposed plan, as first reported by the Times of London, would entail signing an order within days of Trump taking office to medically discharge transgender troops.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/11/25/trump-reportedly-weighs-immediate-discharge-of-all-transgender-troops-heres-what-would-mean.html

[Fishrrman]

"The proposed plan, as first reported by the Times of London, would entail signing an order within days of Trump taking office to medically discharge transgender troops."

I want them out, too.
But perhaps there should be a little "carrot" offered along with the stick.

I'd put out a notice:
Any trans soldier/officer who will voluntarily accept severance within 4 weeks will receive a medical/general discharge, which -- if not challenged -- will become "upgradeable" to an honorable discharge after 18 months.

This offer will not extend to those who will not leave voluntarily and then be forcibly separated from service.

How's that...?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Just a guess, but maybe they join the military as their original sex, with all their original parts "intact" - they're just waiting till they've survived basic training and are still active duty before applying for govt-paid surgery.

Yes kicking out that whole bunch would be a tremendous step in the right direction.

[DB]

Is there any evidence Trump has actually said any of this?

[Wingnut]

Is there any evidence Trump has actually said any of this?

Nope.  But here we are talking about made-up crap like it is for real.