‘It’s Illegal’: Rand Paul Breaks With Trump on Two Key Administration Promises

[libertybele]

??? Why is it illegal?  The military would be defending our country against those who have invaded our country.  They are here ILLEGALLY, they have no rights under the U.S. Constitution.

‘It’s Illegal’: Rand Paul Breaks With Trump on Two Key Administration Promises

President-elect Donald Trump has made it clear that he’s looking for yes-men for his next term in office, but Republican Sen. Rand Paul didn’t seem to get the memo.

The Kentucky lawmaker spoke on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday, and firmly stated his stance against both tariffs and the potential of the military being involved in mass deportations.

Paul went as far as to call Trump’s proposal to involve the military “illegal” and a “terrible image” while talking to the show’s host, Margaret Brennan.

“I am 100 percent supportive of going after the 15,000 murders, the 13,000 sexual assault perpetrators, rapists. All these people. Let’s send them on their way to prison or back home to another prison. So I would say, all points bulletin, all in,” Paul said.

However, he quickly clarified that he and Trump disagreed completely on how these plans might be carried out.

“But you don’t do it with the army because it’s illegal. We’ve had a distrust of putting the army into our streets because the police have a difficult job, but the police understand the Fourth Amendment. They have go to judges, they have to get warrants, it has to be specific,” he said.

“So I am for removing these people but I would do it through the normal process of domestic policing.”...............


https://www.yahoo.com/news/illegal-rand-paul-breaks-trump-203704061.html

[Smokin Joe]

Here's the turnaround on that, though.

In order to face what amount to paramilitary gangs, the police are going to have to up their game.

The military was given the go-ahead to work with local police and even use lethal force in the latest revision of DOD Directive 5240.01.
 
At some point, the police are not going to have what it take without militarizing the police, something we want to avoid as much as using the Military as police.

Either way, it will require funding beyond the current levels being doled out by the teaspoon to some major police forces.

[jafo2010]

Rand Paul has always been about what not to do.  He has NEVER been decisive about what should be done.  Frankly, I do not care how it is done, just that it is done, and done quickly.  And when the murderers and rapists are shipped off to country of origin, then we start on all the others.  In the end, all must be deported, including the DACA folks that Obama illegally arranged to stay.

The fact that they arrived here as children, and have no association to their country of origin again is not the problem of the people of the USA.  Enough nonsense with what the insane Democommies have done.

Politicians start representing the people of the USA, and just maybe this country gets back on track.  If we continue to look after illegal invading aliens while neglecting our own population, and this country is truly damned.  One president may not be able to reverse all the damage done by these clowns, that is why they will not let up.  They will attempt to stall Trump every step of the way, in the courts, in the legislature, every avenue available to them. 

Sen Schumer is a lying POS, his making an appeal for bipartisanship.  He will be the very last to take a step in that direction.  Everything that POS does is an effort to put a kabosh on results, and representing the people of the USA.  He could not be more anti American if he tried.  He could not be more anti ally if he tried.  Israel is a true ally, Ukraine never was.  And yet this maggot sh*ts on Israel every day, despite also being Jewish himself.

[massadvj]

The Kentucky lawmaker spoke on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday, and firmly stated his stance against both tariffs and the potential of the military being involved in mass deportations.

He is right on both counts, although I don't mind tariffs being used as a bludgeon to extract better trade deals. Trump, however, is talking about making them a key revenue source, which will be an unmitigated disaster both domestically and internationally.

[Smokin Joe]

Just noting that before the Income Tax, tariffs were the main source of tax revenue.
National debt was much smaller then, too.

[massadvj]

Just noting that before the Income Tax, tariffs were the main source of tax revenue.
National debt was much smaller then, too.

Our currency was not the world's default currency at the time. Placing tariffs on foreign goods, and reneging on our trade deals, would destroy what little credibility the dollar has left as the world's primary currency reserve. The world markets are already dumping our treasury bonds, forcing The Fed to buy them up, which inflates the currency. Tariffs would be the death knell of the dollar.

I am pretty sure Trump knows this. I am hoping he will use tariffs judiciously to improve trade over the long term, as he did in his first administration.

[libertybele]

Again, why is it illegal??  They are here illegally and should be considered an enemy of our country.  So why is using military force against our enemy illegal??

Deporting criminals who have invaded our country is illegal??? Those who rape, murder, torture, vandalize property and terrorize our citizens should be allowed a day in court before deportation??? Seriously????  No. No. and No!!!!!  Our tax dollars are wasted -- use our tax dollars to deport.

Building a wall is critical in accomplishing this endeavor to ensure more don't come in and those deported don't return.

[massadvj]

Again, why is it illegal??  They are here illegally and should be considered an enemy of our country.  So why is using military force against our enemy illegal??

Deporting criminals who have invaded our country is illegal??? Those who rape, murder, torture, vandalize property and terrorize our citizens should be allowed a day in court before deportation??? Seriously????  No. No. and No!!!!!  Our tax dollars are wasted -- use our tax dollars to deport.

Building a wall is critical in accomplishing this endeavor to ensure more don't come in and those deported don't return.

The Posse Comitatus Act prevents the use of the military to enforce domestic policies. There are many other agencies, including ICE, that can be used to carry out deportation objectives.

[Kamaji]

Rand Paul has the better of the argument here.

[Hoodat]

Title is deceptive.  'Illegal' only refers to deportations, not to tariffs.

I agree with Rand Paul on both counts.  Besides, we don't have a revenue problem.  We have a spending problem.  Get that under control first.  Then we can talk taxes.

[libertybele]

The Posse Comitatus Act prevents the use of the military to enforce domestic policies. There are many other agencies, including ICE, that can be used to carry out deportation objectives.

???? So because of that act the military cannot defend us within the boundaries of our country???

[libertybele]

Our currency was not the world's default currency at the time. Placing tariffs on foreign goods, and reneging on our trade deals, would destroy what little credibility the dollar has left as the world's primary currency reserve. The world markets are already dumping our treasury bonds, forcing The Fed to buy them up, which inflates the currency. Tariffs would be the death knell of the dollar.

I am pretty sure Trump knows this. I am hoping he will use tariffs judiciously to improve trade over the long term, as he did in his first administration.

All true and Vance is focused on digital currency and the Trump campaign accepted donations in cryptocurrency and he also appeared at industry events, promising to make the US “the crypto capital of the planet”.

So .... I see this as concerning; for one I don't fully understand cryptocurrency and secondly would that not basically just push the dollar aside??  So the dollar would basically become worthless???  Lots of people are going to lose their behinds if this is the intent.

It is my understanding that Vance who was recommended by Trump Jr., holds quite a bit of crypto...again...maybe I'm reading more into the situation, but I find this a concern. 

[massadvj]

???? So because of that act the military cannot defend us within the boundaries of our country???

The military could defend us from another country's military if it was within the boundaries of the USA. The act was originally brought because the military was occupying several places in the south after the civil war, and southerners were angry over that. Since then, the act has been strengthened many times by congress, the latest one being in 2020. One loophole is that it is ambiguous as to whether it includes a state's national guard. Lawyers are in disagreement over that point.

There are a lot of federal entities, including ICE and the FBI, which are involved in domestic law enforcement. 

[Hoodat]

The military can be used to protect our border from invasion (i.e. it can be used to block illegals from entering).  But it cannot be used to deport illegals already here.