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Filibuster flip-flop: Senate Democrats ready to embrace tool to stonewall Trump
 
Senate Democrats are set to rekindle their love for the very procedural tool they spent years trying to weaken: the filibuster.

Soon to be in the minority, Democrats are ready to use whatever tactics are at their disposal to put up roadblocks for Republicans and President-elect Donald Trump — including the 60-vote threshold many have long sought to abolish.
 
“I'd be lying if I said we'd be in a better position without the filibuster,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) said. “We have a responsibility to stop autocratic and long-headed abuse of power or policy, and we'll use whatever tools we have available. We're not going to fight this battle with one hand tied behind our back.”

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) sees the filibuster as “part of the calculation” to how Democrats will spearhead resistance next Congress in a chamber with a 53-47 GOP majority.

“We had to live with it when we were in the majority,” he said.

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The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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“I'd be lying if I said we'd be in a better position without the filibuster,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) said. “We have a responsibility to stop autocratic and long-headed abuse of power or policy, and we'll use whatever tools we have available. We're not going to fight this battle with one hand tied behind our back.”

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) sees the filibuster as “part of the calculation” to how Democrats will spearhead resistance next Congress in a chamber with a 53-47 GOP majority.
 

There democrats go again, destroying my understanding of how the government is SUPPOSED TO WORK.  i don't remember reading anything in the Federalist Papers which would explain the above comments, so I have to assume the Federalist Papers were wrong.  They seemed to indicate the politicians in Washington were supposed to work together for the general welfare.  They were supposed to have laws concerning immigration that were to be followed, not "just let them in."  They seemed to indicate the will of the American people were to be used to guide the government, not the will of the political party.  Its that bad American education again. *****rollingeyes*****
The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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I'm a realist.
In politics, as in other things.

I'm going to say it plainly:
If the country is to be saved by Mr. Trump and the incoming Republican-majority Congress, then the Senate filibuster needs to go.

Remember the statement attributed to von Clausewitz about war?
That can also be turned around the other way:
Politics is war, continued by other means.

That is to say (and this is a "Fishrrman original"),
A political party unwilling to engage the limits of political "force" to advance its agenda is the equivalent of an army with soldiers who refuse to fight.

You ain't gonna win.

The DCommunists, for whatever else you may think of them, know this.

I know what reply I'm going to get for making this post:
"If the filibuster is gone, what happens when the leftist/communists regain control?"

That doesn't matter right now.
Saving [what's left of] the country is more important.
We must apply "the limits of available political force" to do what needs to be done.

If you're that worried about it, just before the Senate changes hands again, hold another vote and RESTORE the filibuster. Let the next Congress decide what to do.