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Senate GOP must stop Tulsi Gabbard from getting keys to intelligence castle
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November 13, 2024 4:12 pm
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If you thought about the worst possible choice for director of National Intelligence, former Democratic-turned-Republican Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard would be high up there. However, that’s exactly who President-elect Donald Trump nominated to head the supervision of the United States’s intelligence apparatus.

Republican senators, including Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Senate Majority Leader-elect Sen. John Thune (R-SD), now face a choice between putting the nation first or submission to Trump. After all, if Gabbard is approved, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin will have an ideological sympathizer holding the keys to the U.S. intelligence community crown jewels. This is not an exaggeration.

The National Intelligence director supervises all U.S. intelligence agencies’ collection, analysis, and mission efforts and the production and dissemination of the U.S. government’s most sensitive intelligence reporting and analysis. This includes knowledge of spies buried deep inside foreign governments and terrorist organizations. The fact that Trump nominated Gabbard makes it clear that he is putting his distrust of the intelligence community before the critical interests of national security.

Gabbard has served in uniform and deserves respect for doing so. Still, her views toward all of the United States’s key adversaries make her plainly unsuited for this role. Put simply, Gabbard openly blames the U.S. rather than its adversaries for the threats they pose to U.S. national security.

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The fact that Trump nominated Gabbard makes it clear that he is putting his distrust of the intelligence community before the critical interests of national security.

You mean, like the intelligence community has been doing?

Outside the Beltway or outside the box, Trump has been avoiding the 'in' crowd for a reason.
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After all, if Gabbard is approved, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin will have an ideological sympathizer holding the keys to the U.S. intelligence community crown jewels. This is not an exaggeration.
Kind of sounds like an exaggeration, bud.
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Kind of sounds like an exaggeration, bud.
Are there any crown jewels left after the Clinton, Obama and Biden administration fire sales? Despite Tulsi having been a democrat until recently, I still feel more comfortable trusting her than any of Brandons people. And what exactly is the evidence of her Ruskie and Chicom relationship, the bullshit watchlist she was put on that forced her to go through invasive  searches and pat downs by TSA perverts and being followed by multiple Air Marshalls every time she flies?

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You know, Trump is either an evil genius, or something else!   

But he is as Dragline said; " He was some boy.  Hell, he was a natural-born world-shaker."


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The fact that Trump nominated Gabbard makes it clear that he is putting his distrust of the intelligence community before the critical interests of national security.

The problem with this statement is that it assumes that the interests of national security are served by having an intelligence apparatus that cannot be trusted by the elected government.  The intelligence services interfered in the electoral process in 2020 (including two still on the CIA payroll signing the letter of "fifty ex-intellience-officials" asserting that the genuine contents of Hunter Biden's laptop "had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation") and pushing social media companies to censor access to the New York Post story about it.  Distrusting the intelligence services as currently constituted is actually very much in the interest of national security, as least if the nation means the United States as governed within the bounds of the Constitution.
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The problem with this statement is that it assumes that the interests of national security are served by having an intelligence apparatus that cannot be trusted by the elected government.  The intelligence services interfered in the electoral process in 2020 (including two still on the CIA payroll signing the letter of "fifty ex-intellience-officials" asserting that the genuine contents of Hunter Biden's laptop "had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation") and pushing social media companies to censor access to the New York Post story about it.  Distrusting the intelligence services as currently constituted is actually very much in the interest of national security, as least if the nation means the United States as governed within the bounds of the Constitution.

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This is signaling that Trump is struggling to find resources to work for him.

While I appreciate Gabbard seeing the light in reference to the Democommie Party, that does not mean I want her in such a critical role.

With 350 million people in this nation, Trump has to decimate the House and risk his majority there?  And then to pick a Democrat as of just a few months ago who had in reality some pretty liberal ideas?  No way!!!

In reference to Trump, it only takes one aw-sh*t to wipe out 1,000 that-a-boys.  He has three aw-sh*ts he has selected in key roles.  Sorry, I am NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!

His 1st term, he betrayed the American people by FAILING TO KEEP HIS TWO KEY PROMISES, build a wall on the southern border and end the H1-b Visa Program.  He did NOT complete either one.  And in reality, he increased the H1-b Visa Program, kissing the posterior of tech billionaires who returned the favor by spending billions to see him lose in 2020.

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The problem with this statement is that it assumes that the interests of national security are served by having an intelligence apparatus that cannot be trusted by the elected government.  The intelligence services interfered in the electoral process in 2020 (including two still on the CIA payroll signing the letter of "fifty ex-intellience-officials" asserting that the genuine contents of Hunter Biden's laptop "had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation") and pushing social media companies to censor access to the New York Post story about it.  Distrusting the intelligence services as currently constituted is actually very much in the interest of national security, as least if the nation means the United States as governed within the bounds of the Constitution.

Thank you for this. I had no idea.

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This is signaling that Trump is struggling to find resources to work for him.

While I appreciate Gabbard seeing the light in reference to the Democommie Party, that does not mean I want her in such a critical role.

With 350 million people in this nation, Trump has to decimate the House and risk his majority there?  And then to pick a Democrat as of just a few months ago who had in reality some pretty liberal ideas?  No way!!!

In reference to Trump, it only takes one aw-sh*t to wipe out 1,000 that-a-boys.  He has three aw-sh*ts he has selected in key roles.  Sorry, I am NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!

His 1st term, he betrayed the American people by FAILING TO KEEP HIS TWO KEY PROMISES, build a wall on the southern border and end the H1-b Visa Program.  He did NOT complete either one.  And in reality, he increased the H1-b Visa Program, kissing the posterior of tech billionaires who returned the favor by spending billions to see him lose in 2020.

Trump was betrayed in 2016-2020 by a lot of insider types. I think he's going outside the box.

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Trump was betrayed in 2016-2020 by a lot of insider types. I think he's going outside the box.
That's my take, too. That and trying to get a coalition headed in the same direction within the government--something that insiders were all working against.

Who has the keys to the intelligence castle now?
Have they been trustworthy? (Seems like a leak a week coming out of that crew.)

 
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  Does anyone here think this can't happen again?  Gabbard is a weak nominee, IMHO, along with Rubio, Gaetz and Noems.



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  Does anyone here think this can't happen again?  Gabbard is a weak nominee, IMHO, along with Rubio, Gaetz and Noems.


Just avoid ragtop rides in Dallas. :shrug:
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  Does anyone here think this can't happen again?  Gabbard is a weak nominee, IMHO, along with Rubio, Gaetz and Noems.


95% agree.  OTOH, the Musk-Vivek move is off the chart bad ass.  Hell, I'd come out of retirement, and help them for free, if they asked.
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Who has the keys to the intelligence castle now?
Have they been trustworthy? (Seems like a leak a week coming out of that crew.)

IMO there is a large contingent of elitist types in these halls of power who view the American population itself as the enemy.

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Trump was betrayed in 2016-2020 by a lot of insider types. I think he's going outside the box.

I agree, he was betrayed.  But picking a newly minted Republican with very liberal views is NOT the answer.

There are literally thousands of folks out there, tens if not hundreds of thousands of conservative folks, supporters of Trump, that never served a day with either Bush or any of the stinking Democommies that were POTUS.  The resource pool is HUGE.

THIS IS ANOTHER HUGE MISTAKE BY TRUMP.  She will last maybe a year, and be tossed to the curb when her staffers betray Trump every week.  What will be her pool of appointees?  Conservatives, or the liberals she knows so well.  Please, this is a HUGE mistake.  Let her stay on Fox News, a network that betrayed Trump with the exception of Hannity.

Trump was betrayed because he was CLUELESS in selecting folks in his 1st term.  All those stinking Obama generals that betrayed him every day.  Naw, making huge mistakes again, and he does not have time to squander.  If he wants to genuinely make change, he needs to pick the RIGHT PEOPLE!!!
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With 350 million people in this nation, Trump has to decimate the House and risk his majority there?  And then to pick a Democrat as of just a few months ago who had in reality some pretty liberal ideas?  No way!!!



He's not putting Gabbard in a role that involves social or economic policy in which any residual leftist ideas she holds would be a problem.  He's putting her in a national security role, an area in which she was sound even as a Democrat in Congress.
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  Gabbard is a weak nominee, IMHO, along with Rubio, Gaetz and Noems.


I gather you regard actual isolationism as part of what is needed to make America great again.  I've actually been pleased with Trump's foreign policy and security picks:  they aren't isolationist, and give every indication that his plan (or outline of a plan, I'm not really sure Trump ever has anything beyond outlines of plans) for ending the war in Ukraine involves threatening the Russians as well as threatening the Ukrainians.
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Article from before the election:
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... Gabbard served two tours in the US military. Her first was a 12-month tour in Iraq in 2004, and then she later served a stint in Kuwait in 2009, where she trained the country's counterterrorism unit.

Her service in the military helped shape much of her political outlook, and foreign policy has been her main focus throughout much of her career as a politician.

In 2020, she said in an interview with PBS News that her main focus, if elected as president, would be the role of commander in chief, and she would dedicate much of her time to reversing the many US military interventions across the world, including in the Middle East. ...

For years, she has argued that "radical Islamic ideology" fuels terrorism, a common right-wing talking point. She criticised former President Barack Obama for not using the phrase "Islamic extremism".

"Let us #NeverForget that it was the Islamist ideology which inspired the terrorist attacks and declaration of war against America on 9/11," Gabbard said on X, formerly Twitter, in 2021.

"And it is this Islamist ideology that continues to fuel terrorist attacks around the world and is the foundation for so-called 'Islamic' countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Iran, and Saudi Arabia’s discriminatory policies against Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, etc." ...
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tulsi-gabbard-trump-what-her-views-middle-east
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THREAD: Debunking the Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian Asset Hoax  ... Clinton’s accusation against Gabbard was entirely fabricated, and to this day, no evidence has been provided to substantiate this baseless smear.

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1860040981825089748
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The 'Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset' smear was created by Hillary Clinton when Tulsi endorsed Bernie over her and then ran herself in 2020

It's always been a neoliberal hoax attempted to block populists - just another arm of the general Russiagate hoax
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Let's recall it was Hillary who okayed the deal with Russia for Uranium One.

Who's colluding with who, now?
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