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John Thune voted new Majority Leader
« on: November 13, 2024, 12:12:32 pm »
Thune to succeed McConnell as next Senate GOP leader
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD) has been elected the next GOP leader in the Senate, ushering in a new generation of leadership after nearly two decades of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) running the conference.

A majority of GOP senators supported Thune, currently the Senate minority whip, in a secret ballot held weeks before Republicans take control of the Senate. He received 29 votes on the second ballot Wednesday, compared to 24 for Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX). Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) was eliminated in the first round of voting after receiving the fewest votes.

The leadership election marks a monumental changing of the guard. McConnell, who announced his retirement from leadership in February, is the longest-serving party leader in Senate history, having risen to the post in 2007.

Each of the candidates had signaled a break in McConnell’s leadership style, promising more member input and a return to regular order. But Thune was viewed as the candidate most aligned with McConnell and had a slight advantage as his deputy.

None of the three contenders won enough support on the first ballot, forcing a second round that eliminated Scott, the leader of the conference’s right flank. From there, Thune was able to clinch an outright majority, ending Cornyn’s hopes for a return to the Senate’s leadership ranks.

In 2018, Cornyn was term-limited out of the whip job Thune holds today.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/3228120/thune-cornyn-mcconnell-senate-gop-leader-election/
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2024, 12:12:51 pm »
That sucks.  We need to force each senator to disclose their vote.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2024, 12:17:40 pm »
The worst of the lot is who they want. I'm not the least bit surprised.

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2024, 12:18:56 pm »
Let's get a head count... 

I saw Cruz went for Scott.  Good for him...
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Re: John Thune voted new Majority Leader
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2024, 12:28:52 pm »

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1856748516040945900

This tells me it went to a second round, as neither Thune/Cornyn got a majority of Senators in the first ballot.

Now we got to get a rundown of who voted for who in the first round.  Make them go on record. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2024, 12:30:55 pm »
Might as well have Schumer back.

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2024, 12:33:28 pm »
Might as well have Schumer back.

Yes, another wet noodled feckless POS who will care what Murcowski and Collins thinks. 
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Re: John Thune voted new Majority Leader
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2024, 12:43:09 pm »
As expected.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2024, 12:48:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/AmyKremer/status/1856750503985893408

Thanks....

A couple of omissions I thought would certainly be for Scott, would be Cotton, Hawley, Kennedy, and T.Scott,
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2024, 12:52:10 pm »
Thanks....

A couple of omissions I thought would certainly be for Scott, would be Cotton, Hawley, Kennedy, Paul, and T.Scott,

I'm not impressed.  They could have wanted Thune or Cornyn all along, but decided to cover their butt by saying they voted for Scott, knowing he wouldn't win.

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2024, 12:55:43 pm »
Thanks....

A couple of omissions I thought would certainly be for Scott, would be Cotton, Hawley, Kennedy, Paul, and T.Scott,

Nah! The like that COC $$$ too much.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2024, 12:57:38 pm »
Thanks....

A couple of omissions I thought would certainly be for Scott, would be Cotton, Hawley, Kennedy, Paul, and T.Scott,

Rand Paul did vote for Scott.  The others on your list: 😡

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2024, 12:58:48 pm »
Rand Paul did vote for Scott.  The others on your list: 😡

I had changed it quickly, when I saw my lists didn't add up.  Damn, you're fast. 
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2024, 01:00:43 pm »
Do Senators who will not be serving in the next Congress participate in this vote?




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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2024, 01:02:57 pm »
Do Senators who will not be serving in the next Congress get to participate in this vote?

Good question considering the tally was 29-24, and we don't have the majority. (yet)
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2024, 01:05:06 pm »
Good question considering the tally was 29-24, and we don't have the majority. (yet)

I think newly elected senators vote.

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2024, 01:05:32 pm »
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The reason Thune is going to be better for Trump (and likely why Trump didn't intervene on Scott's behalf) is that the primary point of the majority leader is 1) knowing the rules and 2) whipping votes.

No one likes Scott. He'd have been a hindrance to getting things passed.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2024, 01:08:03 pm »
Do Senators who will not be serving in the next Congress participate in this vote?

This vote today was for Minority leader the vote for Majority leader comes next January after the new senate is sworn in. It makes no difference because 29 is more than a majority of the new senate. @Right_in_Virginia
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2024, 01:10:44 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2024, 01:13:33 pm »
Headline is misleading then.

:yowsa: But outcome in January will be the same as todays.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2024, 01:13:42 pm »
Headline is misleading then.

Yeah, but I'd guess today's vote will be pretty much rubberstamped anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2024, 01:17:49 pm »
This vote today was for Minority leader the vote for Majority leader comes next January after the new senate is sworn in. It makes no difference because 29 is more than a majority of the new senate. @Right_in_Virginia

So Thune has to run for leader again in January?

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2024, 01:22:08 pm »
So Thune has to run for leader again in January?

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2024, 01:24:39 pm »
:yowsa: Nothing this congress does binds the next one.

Thanks!

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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2024, 01:25:41 pm »
:yowsa: Nothing this congress does binds the next one.

If there can be enough outcry, we might be able to sway some of them.  I'm trying right now.
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2024, 01:42:31 pm »
Fox News is calling Thune the new Majority Leader and Thune is speaking about all they are going to accomplish next year.  In fact, the whole new leadership team is being introduced.

I'm so confused 🤔

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2024, 01:45:11 pm »
Fox News is calling Thune the new Majority Leader and Thune is speaking about all they are going to accomplish next year.  In fact, the whole new leadership team is being introduced.

I'm so confused 🤔

Me too.  Wonder if there was a rubber stamping proclamation included after the vote for 2025-2026 Senate.  That shit has turdle all over it.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2024, 01:45:58 pm »
Fox News is calling Thune the new Majority Leader and Thune is speaking about all they are going to accomplish next year.  In fact, the whole new leadership team is being introduced.

I'm so confused 🤔

They all know that Thune is going to be the Majority leader so they feel free to refer to him that way.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2024, 02:21:41 pm »
Is John Thune really that big of a disappointment?  If conservatism were the priority, I don't know why the Republicans spent the past 9 years trying to get Trump elected.  Thune knows how to get things done, for better or worse.

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2024, 02:24:00 pm »
Me too.  Wonder if there was a rubber stamping proclamation included after the vote for 2025-2026 Senate.  That shit has turdle all over it.

It is confusing as I had read that they were voting on the minority leader.  However the news and even Glenn Beck is stating that Thune is the majority leader. Logically it would seem that the new seated Senators would vote for the majority leader??

I see it as unfortunate and yes perhaps McConnell had some influence on the vote.

There are those saying that Scott is not likeable -- perhaps he's a little too conservative for the GOPe senators.  :shrug:

 I also heard on Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show that Trump can appoint a different leader?? 

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2024, 02:25:23 pm »
Is John Thune really that big of a disappointment?  If conservatism were the priority, I don't know why the Republicans spent the past 9 years trying to get Trump elected.  Thune knows how to get things done, for better or worse.

He has an 'F' rating by conservative review.  Getting things done?  How about putting someone in place that isn't going to vote along DEM lines to get things done.

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2024, 02:31:19 pm »
Thune to succeed McConnell as next Senate GOP leader
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD) has been elected the next GOP leader in the Senate, ushering in a new generation of leadership after nearly two decades of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) running the conference.

A majority of GOP senators supported Thune, currently the Senate minority whip, in a secret ballot held weeks before Republicans take control of the Senate. He received 29 votes on the second ballot Wednesday, compared to 24 for Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX). Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) was eliminated in the first round of voting after receiving the fewest votes.

The leadership election marks a monumental changing of the guard. McConnell, who announced his retirement from leadership in February, is the longest-serving party leader in Senate history, having risen to the post in 2007.

Each of the candidates had signaled a break in McConnell’s leadership style, promising more member input and a return to regular order. But Thune was viewed as the candidate most aligned with McConnell and had a slight advantage as his deputy.

None of the three contenders won enough support on the first ballot, forcing a second round that eliminated Scott, the leader of the conference’s right flank. From there, Thune was able to clinch an outright majority, ending Cornyn’s hopes for a return to the Senate’s leadership ranks.

In 2018, Cornyn was term-limited out of the whip job Thune holds today.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/3228120/thune-cornyn-mcconnell-senate-gop-leader-election/

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2024, 02:33:08 pm »
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.

Or ....   Same Old Thune. 
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2024, 02:33:51 pm »
This vote today was for Minority leader the vote for Majority leader comes next January after the new senate is sworn in. It makes no difference because 29 is more than a majority of the new senate. @Right_in_Virginia

This looks like an opportunity to cultivate another candidate for the Majority Leader.
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2024, 02:39:38 pm »
He has an 'F' rating by conservative review.  Getting things done?  How about putting someone in place that isn't going to vote along DEM lines to get things done.

He is at 83% lifetime with American Conservative Union, 72% Club for Growth, generally highly regarded by immigration, abortion, petroleum groups, despised by progressive orgs.  I just don't know if we could expect anything better.  The Senate is a deliberative body, so a firebrand would not work in this position.  The majority leader needs to have a good relationship with moderates, and a working knowledge of the senate rules.

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2024, 02:45:17 pm »
He is at 83% lifetime with American Conservative Union, 72% Club for Growth, generally highly regarded by immigration, abortion, petroleum groups, despised by progressive orgs.  I just don't know if we could expect anything better.  The Senate is a deliberative body, so a firebrand would not work in this position.  The majority leader needs to have a good relationship with moderates, and a working knowledge of the senate rules.

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The same folks who are wailing about Thune being chosen always spoke ill of McConnell, without whom we'd be living in a world with Justice Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court instead of Justice Neil Gorsuch.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2024, 03:21:58 pm »

https://twitter.com/iAnonPatriot/status/1856766680279781749

Well, I don't see Cruz, Paul or Lee on that list....that tells me what I've already suspected.

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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2024, 03:25:28 pm »
Does this mean there will be no recess appointments?

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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2024, 08:22:27 pm »
Voters flocked to the polls last week to let Washington know they have had enough.  They sounded their voice for change, turning to the GOP to give America that fresh start and to put an end to the morass that has paralyzed this nation for the past four years.  So what does the GOP do?  In their very first official act, they openly betray those voters by professing their allegiance to the Status Quo and choosing the biggest Swamp-Establishment Senator they could find to be the new Senate Majority Leader over the next two years.  Way to go, you stupid-ass Republicans.  Might as well have named Schumer instead. 
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2024, 08:33:51 pm »
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The reason Thune is going to be better for Trump (and likely why Trump didn't intervene on Scott's behalf) is that the primary point of the majority leader is 1) knowing the rules and 2) whipping votes.

No one likes Scott. He'd have been a hindrance to getting things passed.

It's not that difficult a task.  Thune won't have much whipping to do.  He's need only three other votes to get bills passed for the Democrats.
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2024, 08:47:39 pm »
Voters flocked to the polls last week to let Washington know they have had enough.  They sounded their voice for change, turning to the GOP to give America that fresh start and to put an end to the morass that has paralyzed this nation for the past four years.  So what does the GOP do?  In their very first official act, they openly betray those voters by professing their allegiance to the Status Quo and choosing the biggest Swamp-Establishment Senator they could find to be the new Senate Majority Leader over the next two years.  Way to go, you stupid-ass Republicans.  Might as well have named Schumer instead.

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