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Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
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LITITZ, Pennsylvania — Former President Donald Trump raised concerns about election integrity in Pennsylvania two days before polls close, calling for statewide reforms before the next election.

During a rally in Lititz, Pennsylvania, a relatively low-energy Trump, who did host three events on Saturday, criticized extended voting hours in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, a crucial county closer to Philadelphia that supported Trump in 2016 and President Joe Biden in 2020. Republicans sought the extension of hours this week.

Striking a note that did not project confidence, Trump complained that Democrats dismissed election skeptics as conspiracy theorists.

“If nothing comes out of this whole damn thing, it’s going to teach you you damn well better get a different system,” Trump told the crowd Sunday.

As election officials try to manage timeline expectations for Nov. 5, including in Arizona, where it could take 12 days to count the state’s votes, Trump scrutinized voter identification laws, voting machines, electronic ballots, and results being announced after 9 p.m.

“For future elections, I won’t be even a part of it, but you want to damn well go to paper ballots, you ought to go to voter ID, and you want to have the election over by 9 o’clock,” he said.

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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2024, 01:44:25 pm »
What a downer....back to feeling depressed..
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2024, 02:11:15 pm »
What a downer....back to feeling depressed..

This is the frenzied end stage of a coordinated psyop to suppress Republican votes.     It's best to ignore these "reports" and not post their  :bs:



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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2024, 02:17:39 pm »
This is the frenzied end stage of a coordinated psyop to suppress Republican votes.      Please don't help them.

What..did you watch this..he sounded tired even exhausted and dare I say it...discouraged.

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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2024, 02:26:26 pm »
What..did you watch this..he sounded tired even exhausted and dare I say it...discouraged.

Trump consumes conservative media in whole, so no wonder he's depressed. He sees conspiracies everywhere that he cannot overcome. He's like a microcosm of this forum.

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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2024, 02:39:03 pm »
This is the frenzied end stage of a coordinated psyop to suppress Republican votes.     It's best to ignore these "reports" and not post their  :bs:


I didn't watch the rally BUT this is what was reported and he sounds like he's thrown in the towel. He knows what's going on -- and the GOP/RNC haven't done a darn thing .... in fact the GOPe is helping dig his hole.

He is absolutely right.  SO    ............ pray for a miracle because he knows it and we know it -- there's no second time around now and chances are we won't even see another election.  Who's going to convince the DEMS who aren't about to give up their stealing and cheating and go back to paper ballots???? 

This is a reality check folks.  BUT -- those who haven't voted MUST get out and vote!!!!

He's not exactly conveying confidence, nor encouraging people to vote!  What happened to he will 'never surrender' and 'fight, fight, fight'??????

“If nothing comes out of this whole damn thing, it’s going to teach you you damn well better get a different system,” Trump told the crowd Sunday.

As election officials try to manage timeline expectations for Nov. 5, including in Arizona, where it could take 12 days to count the state’s votes, Trump scrutinized voter identification laws, voting machines, electronic ballots, and results being announced after 9 p.m.

“For future elections, I won’t be even a part of it, but you want to damn well go to paper ballots, you ought to go to voter ID, and you want to have the election over by 9 o’clock,” he said.




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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2024, 02:46:15 pm »
I think what Trump is seeing, is what i am seeing. 

One real plausible scenario is that he sweeps the 4 sun belt states, while Harris sweeps (steals) the 3 Rust Belt states.  One crazy point is that these 3 states PA-MI-WI have voted in perfect tandem in every election since 1988. (That's 8 straight elections).

If this does occur.....     Harris 270 Trump 268  **nononono*
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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2024, 02:52:37 pm »

I didn't watch the rally BUT this is what was reported and he sounds like he's thrown in the towel. He knows what's going on --

In the name of all that is holy, PLEASE scroll pass stuff like this  pointing-up --- the exact reaction the opposition wants.

Be assured Trump's still fighting, losing his voice, but still fighting for all of us.

VOTE!  And ignore the worriers, hand wringers and uninformed. 

VOTE!   :patriot:

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2024, 02:53:07 pm »
BTW-- Trump is aged, he's been campaigning non-stop for months, dragged through the courts system and he has a right to have an off day and be discouraged and depressed. 

However -- I am still predicting Trump 300 -- he is going to win by a landslide.

Keep praying folks and get out and vote if you haven't done so!!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2024, 03:06:35 pm »
In the name of all that is holy, PLEASE scroll pass stuff like this  pointing-up --- the exact reaction the opposition wants.

Be assured Trump's still fighting, losing his voice, but still fighting for all of us.

VOTE!  And ignore the worriers, hand wringers and uninformed. 

VOTE!   :patriot:

It's not over, but I wouldn't call my post anything near hand wringing or worrying.  Just enough enough analysis of my obsession of figuring out what is going to happen Tuesday.  I have lived on polls, twitter, and other media non stop almost for two weeks now, and as crazy as it sounds, this might be a flip of '16 where Trump narrowly wins with the popular vote, but loses the election. (barely).  My anger right now is that the GOP had 4 years to fix the systems, and man the process to minimize the damage. 

There also is a good chance, we might get lucky and win one of the 3.  But, I am less optimistic than I was at this point a week ago.

Finally. GOTV. GOTV. GOTV.  Push it force it, preach it.  If you know anyone in a swing state, its time to do some old fashioned politcin'
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2024, 03:10:24 pm »
It's not over, but I wouldn't call my post anything near hand wringing or worrying.  Just enough enough analysis of my obsession of figuring out what is going to happen Tuesday.  I have lived on polls, twitter, and other media non stop almost for two weeks now, and as crazy as it sounds, this might be a flip of '16 where Trump narrowly wins with the popular vote, but loses the election. (barely).  My anger right now is that the GOP had 4 years to fix the systems, and man the process to minimize the damage. 

There also is a good chance, we might get lucky and win one of the 3.  But, I am less optimistic than I was at this point a week ago.

Finally. GOTV. GOTV. GOTV.  Push it force it, preach it.  If you know anyone in a swing state, its time to do some old fashioned politcin'

My anger as well. What the hell has the GOP/RNC been doing???? The GOPe is sitting on $$$ and on their butts not lifting a finger to help incumbents (especially Mitch) nor Trump. 

Regardless, it is important that every person who can get out and vote do so.  Early voting has ended in most states ... so election day is it folks.   Let's help push Trump over the line..... 

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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2024, 03:10:58 pm »
In the name of all that is holy, PLEASE scroll pass stuff like this  pointing-up --- the exact reaction the opposition wants.

Be assured Trump's still fighting, losing his voice, but still fighting for all of us.

VOTE!  And ignore the worriers, hand wringers and uninformed. 

VOTE!   :patriot:

I agree 100%.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2024, 03:12:19 pm »
I got to give Trump a pass on the energy.  Think about his schedule the past month.  I know I couldn't do it, and I am 10 years younger. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2024, 03:15:35 pm »
For those who are good at prayer, and are in good with the guy  upstairs....

One number to especially pray for.......  "51".

A controlled senate will allow at least a 2 year speed bump in case Cackles pulls it off.
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Re: Trump sows election doubts, at odds with Pennsylvania GOP confidence
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2024, 03:16:20 pm »
I got to give Trump a pass on the energy.  Think about his schedule the past month.  I know I couldn't do it, and I am 10 years younger.

Agreed. The man has tremendous energy and he has campaigned non-stop. 

Trump/Vance '24   :patriot:     VOTE

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For those who are good at prayer, and are in good with the guy  upstairs....

One number to especially pray for.......  "51".

A controlled senate will allow at least a 2 year speed bump in case Cackles pulls it off.

@catfish  -- it's not over, but yes, definitely keep praying.  Both Cruz in TX and Scott in FL need to retain their seats.  McConnell has helped neither one.  The SOB is trying to make the significance of his tenure matter. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2024, 03:21:42 pm »
Seems all the final polling is in.  Good bad, or ugly. 

According to RCP, Trump's up 0.1% in the popular vote, and up 1.0% in battleground states.  Problem is, that that 1% is padded and skewed  by decent margins in GA (2.3%), NC (1.5%), and AZ (2.6%).  The rust belters (WI, MI, and PA) are all 0.3-0.6%, and easily within the margin of cheatage.  Thus, see my analaysis above. 

Somehow, someway, Trump's gotta win one of these 3.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2024, 03:23:13 pm »
@catfish  -- it's not over, but yes, definitely keep praying.  Both Cruz in TX and Scott in FL need to retain their seats.  McConnell has helped neither one.  The SOB is trying to make the significance of his tenure matter.

Bele...  Turdle has made a career of sabotaging Cruz.  No surprise.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2024, 03:23:37 pm »
Seems all the final polling is in.  Good bad, or ugly. 

According to RCP, Trump's up 0.1% in the popular vote, and up 1.0% in battleground states.  Problem is, that that 1% is padded and skewed  by decent margins in GA (2.3%), NC (1.5%), and AZ (2.6%).  The rust belters (WI, MI, and PA) are all 0.3-0.6%, and easily within the margin of cheatage.  Thus, see my analaysis above. 

Somehow, someway, Trump's gotta win one of these 3.

Final polling???? Are you freakin' kidding me?  Election Day isn't even here!  He's going to win MI and PA - you wait and see.

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2024, 03:24:50 pm »
Bele...  Turdle has made a career of sabotaging Cruz.  No surprise.

Yes, I know that.  I continue to pray that Cruz is going to win TX!  If anyone can overcome odds, it's him.


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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2024, 03:26:51 pm »
Final polling???? Are you freakin' kidding me?  Election Day isn't even here!  He's going to win MI and PA - you wait and see.

Vote!!   :patriot: :patriot:

Polls take time to process, analyze, and publish.  Most of the major (decent) Pollsters shut down the weekend before. 

I like your optimism!!!  And I hope you are right.

I just hope those trips to NY, VA, and TX in the final 10 days aren't regretted.  ( like Hitlery in '16)
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2024, 03:29:16 pm »
Yes, I know that.  I continue to pray that Cruz is going to win TX!  If anyone can overcome odds, it's him.

I've looked at the party affillation of early voting in TX. I'd give Ted a 95% chance of winning.  Every Allred poll that shows Allred close had faulty demographics. (Da' Sauce, as we say).   I'll be shocked if he pulls off the upset.
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2024, 03:35:24 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2024, 03:35:59 pm »
Has anyone else heard about Nebraska's bad timing, in trying to eliminate their system of splitting EV's? 

Their legistation, if they had put their head in the game, could have returned it to a winner take all state

Translated?...   The city of Omaha may decide the entire election in case of a 269/270 EV winner total.

Example?  In my earlier scenario where Harris win the Rusters, and Trump the sun belt states, Harris wins 270-268.  If Nebraska  had been winner take all, this would have been 269-269, and the tie would have been returned to the state legislators, where Trump wins 29 states to 21 for Harris, and DJT becomes the 47th POTUS, 

Crazy a'int it?
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