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Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« on: October 24, 2024, 05:21:58 pm »
Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
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October 24, 2024 4:11 pm
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Vice President Kamala Harris’s closing election message is that former President Donald Trump is a fascist who loves Adolf Hitler. It could set the stage for more Jan. 6 chaos if Harris loses.

Harris has decided that grocery prices or illegal immigration should take a backseat in her campaign messaging to declaring that Trump is a fascist and promoting an anonymously sourced hit piece from the Atlantic, which previously published anonymous claims about Trump that were rebutted on the record by multiple people, that claims Trump repeatedly praised Hitler.

Of course, it is entirely possible that Harris doesn’t believe any of this, as calling Republicans “Hitler” has been a Democratic tradition going back 60 years, as my colleague Christopher Tremoglie has detailed. Harris is losing minority support in polls, which might best explain why she is invoking the Nazis so she can racially fearmonger votes without having to do the legwork of actually winning those voters over.

However, she is running for president and should be treated as if she believes what she says, which leads to a conundrum as Harris would be overseeing the certification of a Trump win on Jan. 6, 2025, if Trump does manage to beat her. Harris, through a spokesperson, said she would certify a Trump victory, but that was way back in July, just four days after President Joe Biden dropped out of the race. A lot has changed since then, and Harris herself hasn’t said one way or another what she would do.

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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2024, 06:01:19 pm »
An idle thought...if Kammie loses ( :patriot:) would she still be VP and able to block an election?

I tried to look this up and can't find an answer.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2024, 06:02:27 pm »
Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?

Wondering if some of the wiser members of The Party will sit back and breathe a collective sigh of relief that they can now wash their hands of her...
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2024, 06:13:39 pm »
Quote from: berdie on October 24, 2024, 06:01:19 pm
An idle thought...if Kammie loses ( :patriot:) would she still be VP and able to block an election?

I tried to look this up and can't find an answer.

That is what most of the hoopla was surrounding J6 - that Pence had the ability to change the election results by not certifying the election.

For further info:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/congress-approves-new-election-certification-rules-in-response-to-jan-6
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2024, 02:05:31 pm »
Quote from: berdie on October 24, 2024, 06:01:19 pm
An idle thought...if Kammie loses ( :patriot:) would she still be VP and able to block an election?

I tried to look this up and can't find an answer.
Being that they were afraid that that might happen, the Democrats spearheaded a successful effort to change that law and make the proceedings more pro forma than meaningful.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2024, 02:06:54 pm »
With all the rioting that will be going on, Biden will just have to declare martial law and suspend certifying the election or holding the inauguration.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2024, 06:32:23 pm »
"It could set the stage for more Jan. 6 chaos if Harris loses."

Well, then we'll learn about "insurrection".
Maybe a real one, this time.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2024, 06:38:25 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 25, 2024, 02:06:54 pm
With all the rioting that will be going on, Biden will just have to declare martial law and suspend certifying the election or holding the inauguration.
I don't think so.

The Capital has been fenced off several times since Jan 6 2020 so certification can proceed unimpeded as rioters will be segregated.

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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2024, 06:50:39 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 25, 2024, 02:06:54 pm
With all the rioting that will be going on, Biden will just have to declare martial law and suspend certifying the election or holding the inauguration.

My exact thoughts.  Several dim leaders have feverently stated that Trump will not become president.  We have to take them on their word. 
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2024, 06:54:32 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2024, 02:05:31 pm
Being that they were afraid that that might happen, the Democrats spearheaded a successful effort to change that law and make the proceedings more pro forma than meaningful.


I appreciate your reply @Smokin Joe  but could you break that down into berdiespeak?
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2024, 09:01:19 pm »
« Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 09:02:18 pm by IsailedawayfromFR »
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2024, 11:52:43 pm »
Quote from: berdie on October 25, 2024, 06:54:32 pm

I appreciate your reply @Smokin Joe  but could you break that down into berdiespeak?
They changed the rules so the Veep just rubber stamps what they tell him, and can't hold up the certification.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2024, 01:35:51 am »
It will not be Harris causing trouble, for she has no spine.  But Biden, that cretin is declaring Trump should be locked up, and I do not get a sense his comment is innocent rhetoric.  So, I fully expect the corrupt DOJ issuing orders to imprison Trump 1-2 days before election day. 
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2024, 10:37:37 am »
Would the Military Shoot Her Rioters?
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2024, 05:04:45 am »
Quote from: Elderberry on October 26, 2024, 10:37:37 am
Would the Military Shoot Her Rioters?
The Military would still be subject to the orders of the CinC, who (technically) is Biden. So, not a chance.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2024, 07:29:00 am »
Quote from: Elrderberry on October 26, 2024, 10:37:37 am
Would the Military Shoot Her Rioters?
No one impeded the previous DNC rioters (BLM, Antifa), so I would say the anti-Trump rioters will be safe.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2024, 07:51:51 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 27, 2024, 07:29:00 am
No one impeded the previous DNC rioters (BLM, Antifa), so I would say the anti-Trump rioters will be safe.
I don't think they changed the DOD directive to allow the use of lethal force by the US military against American Citizens on American soil because they were going to attack the Left in the Streets. I think they were afraid that we might act like the Left if they succeed in stealing the election (again).
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2024, 08:28:03 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on October 26, 2024, 01:35:51 am
It will not be Harris causing trouble, for she has no spine.  But Biden, that cretin is declaring Trump should be locked up, and I do not get a sense his comment is innocent rhetoric.  So, I fully expect the corrupt DOJ issuing orders to imprison Trump 1-2 days before election day. 
I agree those in power are expecting accountability for their criminal and unconstitutional acts and will act irrationally to save themselves.

I agree with your pointed observations and predictions, except this one.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,537409.msg3050369.html#msg3050369

BTW, I had close to the same thought as you at the time
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2024, 09:16:34 pm »
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2024, 10:15:12 pm »
Quote from: berdie on October 24, 2024, 06:01:19 pm
An idle thought...if Kammie loses ( :patriot:) would she still be VP and able to block an election?

I tried to look this up and can't find an answer.

Bottom line, Democrats can do whatever in the hell they want and get away with it.  By the time Jan 6 arrives, enough ballots will have trickled in for Kamala to name herself President.
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2024, 10:48:02 pm »
Unfortunately they'll have precedent to do so...
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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2024, 09:13:06 am »
Yes, because the entire Democrat party is composed of Transformationists, not Americanists.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,539914.msg3064300.html#msg3064300

This is not a conservative vs liberal argument but an argument between those who fundamentally wish to preserve the structure of our country vs those who wish to destroy it.

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Re: Will Kamala Harris cause a Democratic Party Jan. 6 crisis if she loses?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2024, 08:31:11 am »
Violence is expected. Harris is making sure her home is protected, though, so no worries.

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Workers are installing anti-scale riot fences at the @VP residence tonight in preparation for Tuesday’s election.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2024, 11:37:02 am »
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Storefronts in DC are being boarded up as we speak. Probably to protect from the MAGA rioters, right?

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