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Offline libertybele

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People have to vote their conscious. Perhaps they truly need to consider that voting for Trump would be voting against a radical anti-life, anti-American, nut job.

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Annnd here we are, right back at the shit sandwich vs turdburger argument.  *****rollingeyes*****

It's surprising to me how many Christians don't vote.

As a Christian I am happy to support Trump because he did what he said he would do when he was elected POTUS the first time. He nominated Pro-Life judges to the SCOTUS and Roe v. Wade was finally overturned. I've heard lip service about Life from Pubs all my life and they didn't do much and then this former NY liberal came along and actually did something. For that alone Christians should be eager to support the man.

Also, going into the primaries I was leaning towards DeSantis because he has done such an outstanding job in FL.. However, the second that the DOJ & FBI began their phony lawsuits against Trump my support went to Trump because I do not want to live in a 3rd world banana republic.

Vote Trump. Put an end to lawfare and save the Republic.
We have a beach head. Now it's time to win the war and save the Republic.

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Pastoral messages like this don't help matters:This is the same pastor (or impastor, if you will) who has argued that Christians "must address white privilege."   *****rollingeyes*****

Yabbutt... The other side is just as bad. My morning Yootoobs are filled with prophecy fruitloops trying to paint Tumpy in prophetic tones. Messianic tones, even.... From the RIGHT. It's embarrassing. Unhinged.

Tumpy gets the credit for overturning Roe, and for recognizing Jerusalem. But by the same token, there are many instances of him aligning with the woke... He doubled Planned Parenthood's budget... Wrong side of Disney. Wrong side of Bud Light. Tumpy's 'faith' is nothing but a political tattletale.

This dingbat pastor is the lesser shame. That Republicans pay lip service to Christian principles and use Christianity for nothing other than a political prop is the damn crying shame. And Tumpy is among the worst in that. It's been so from the minute Reagan left.

The Republican moderate and liberal wings want that mammoth Christian vote - So they placate to get into office and then throw the Christians under the bus, following rather the grand plan of corporate globalism and the war machine.

Republicans are not Christian defenders. It's a damn lie.

It is Conservatives who rise to defend Christian principle. And it always has been.

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It's surprising to me how many Christians don't vote.


I will HAPPILY VOTE. Give me something to vote *FOR*. That's YOUR job, not mine. Y'all have to make it attractive to me. Y'all have to offer what I want. You're the seller. I'm the buyer.

*NO SALE*. Tough shit there it is. You want my vote, raise up a Conservative. A REAL one.

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As a Christian I am happy to support Trump because he did what he said he would do when he was elected POTUS the first time.

Oh bullcrap.

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He nominated Pro-Life judges to the SCOTUS and Roe v. Wade was finally overturned. I've heard lip service about Life from Pubs all my life and they didn't do much and then this former NY liberal came along and actually did something. For that alone Christians should be eager to support the man.

Not 'former'.

Do something! Even if it's wrong!. And I am on the record, either here or on FR, predicting this scenario in the fallout of a Roe reversal. There never was any meat on that bone, because it serves the wrong premise. It is a federal, Constitutional issue. LIFE is foremost guaranteed to be protected by the DOI - By our very founding as a nation.

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Also, going into the primaries I was leaning towards DeSantis because he has done such an outstanding job in FL.. However, the second that the DOJ & FBI began their phony lawsuits against Trump my support went to Trump because I do not want to live in a 3rd world banana republic.

Vote Trump. Put an end to lawfare and save the Republic.

So what? The left has been using lawfare for decades. So does the 'right'.
You're 'stopping' nothing. Y'all never do.

Because you won't stand fast upon the principles that made us.

For his disastrous distruction in his first term against fiscal conservatism and libertarianism - Historic disaster - That alone makes him a non-starter. I will not endorse that. Ever.

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Yabbutt... The other side is just as bad. My morning Yootoobs are filled with prophecy fruitloops trying to paint Tumpy in prophetic tones. Messianic tones, even.... From the RIGHT. It's embarrassing. Unhinged.

Tumpy gets the credit for overturning Roe, and for recognizing Jerusalem. But by the same token, there are many instances of him aligning with the woke... He doubled Planned Parenthood's budget... Wrong side of Disney. Wrong side of Bud Light. Tumpy's 'faith' is nothing but a political tattletale.

This dingbat pastor is the lesser shame. That Republicans pay lip service to Christian principles and use Christianity for nothing other than a political prop is the damn crying shame. And Tumpy is among the worst in that. It's been so from the minute Reagan left.

The Republican moderate and liberal wings want that mammoth Christian vote - So they placate to get into office and then throw the Christians under the bus, following rather the grand plan of corporate globalism and the war machine.

Republicans are not Christian defenders. It's a damn lie.

It is Conservatives who rise to defend Christian principle. And it always has been.

Well, this time around we truly don't have a conservative to vote for.  That's a known fact.  I get that.  What it boils down to, and I'll say it again is either voting for someone who is pro-America or someone who is anti-America.

The anti-America candidate has clearly demonstrated massive destruction against this country.  I cannot say that to be true of Trump. I know you're fixated on the deficit and I agree, but I believe Trump will use the money to repair and build up this country, whereas Blossom  will raise the deficit AND continue to destroy this country.

Perhaps you see this country making it another day under Blossom.  I definitely do not!

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Well, this time around we truly don't have a conservative to vote for.  That's a known fact.  I get that.

That's right... And why my participation ended when Desantis left the race. I have no dog in this hunt.

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What it boils down to, and I'll say it again is either voting for someone who is pro-America or someone who is anti-America.


No. Voting anti-conservative is not pro-America. Reducing your vote to something warm and fuzzy because of the red, white, and blue bunting, and some moron on a political stump uttering 'Murica' is such a cheap imitation of the sacred duty envisioned by the founders... I will not go there.

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The anti-America candidate has clearly demonstrated massive destruction against this country.  I cannot say that to be true of Trump.

I sure can.

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I know you're fixated on the deficit and I agree, but I believe Trump will use the money to repair and build up this country, whereas Blossom  will raise the deficit AND continue to destroy this country.

Perhaps you see this country making it another day under Blossom.  I definitely do not!

See, first, I am not fixated on the deficit. Money is just a way  of keeping score. I am fixated upon LIBERTY. Your use of 'use the money' foregoes the natural conclusion... What will fix it is if they never get the money in the first damn place. Your big government is no different than theirs.

It's.the.same.damn.government.
Period.

Left foot, right foot, shuffling toward Gomorrah.

Offline GrouchoTex

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I am beginning to think that Kamala's "You're at the wrong rally" comment may bring out more Christians after all.

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Here are four biblical principles for voting as a Christian:

1. Support a political philosophy or system that gets human nature right.

2. Understand what biblical justice looks like. We need laws that are based on God’s justice, not the culture’s understanding of justice.

3. Support laws that reflect the proper role of the government: to keep order, reward good, and punish evil.

4. Support laws that do good.

The Christian needs to be informed on what is good and what is evil and then seek to use their power in voting to do the best job of promoting the most good and resisting the greatest evils. As you are making your decisions, don’t go against your conscience, but, at the same time, don’t stay uninformed. You need to make sure you inform your conscience as best you can as to the way these laws work and play out.
3:12 PM · Oct 21, 2024
The abnormal is not the normal just because it is prevalent.
Roger Kimball, in a talk at Hillsdale College, 1/29/25

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Stand to Reason
@STRtweets
Here are four biblical principles for voting as a Christian:

1. Support a political philosophy or system that gets human nature right.

2. Understand what biblical justice looks like. We need laws that are based on God’s justice, not the culture’s understanding of justice.

3. Support laws that reflect the proper role of the government: to keep order, reward good, and punish evil.

4. Support laws that do good.

The Christian needs to be informed on what is good and what is evil and then seek to use their power in voting to do the best job of promoting the most good and resisting the greatest evils. As you are making your decisions, don’t go against your conscience, but, at the same time, don’t stay uninformed. You need to make sure you inform your conscience as best you can as to the way these laws work and play out.
3:12 PM · Oct 21, 2024

Couching the lesser evil as 'the most good' is a justification without merit.