Millions of Christians not planning to vote this November, could shape election: Study

[GrouchoTex]

No... the problem is in the dissent. Tumpy will not get the Christian vote en bloc. Guaranteed. The 'Christian' bumper sticker that is the Tumpy campaign will not fool them all.

And to go against the liberal machine will take every_single_vote.

The problem is this: You have to give them something to vote *FOR*.

That ain't 'because Democrats'. 

Economic and border issues also effect them, that is why I think what I wrote above is accurate, in my opinion.
Christians coming out to vote for better economics and a secure border would have the media and others outside Christianity come after them with labels of not loving thy neighbor, for instance, in regards to the border.
Who needs the drama? I just tell the pollsters "No, thank you", and move on.

[roamer_1]

Economic and border issues also effect them, that is why I think what I wrote above is accurate, in my opinion.
Christians coming out to vote for better economics and a secure border would have the media and others outside Christianity come after them with labels of not loving thy neighbor, for instance, in regards to the border.
Who needs the drama? I just tell the pollsters "No, thank you", and move on.

Oh I don't deny that. But it still comes down to numbers. Christians tend to be sheep, and tend to follow the flock, but even in that - Christians are the biggest voting bloc the Right has. By rights the Right ought to be catering more to Christians than any other.

You should see the phony ass crap they're feeding to Christians. It's literally embarrassing. And yeah, they'll play a good portion of em. Maybe even the lion's share - Sheep, after all - But the intellectual core is not fooled. And that is a vast number that find offense with social media... That will not be so easily swayed from their Shepherd.

What is that? 10%? 20%? Nobody really knows - So many Christians are disaffected and no longer care for politics, which has always played second fiddle anyway.

[corbe]

    Voting is an exercise in futilty~Unless you live in a Swing State.  IMHO, most all politicians are azzholes.

[Bigun]

    Voting is an exercise in futilty~Unless you live in a Swing State.  IMHO, most all politicians are azzholes.

We don't need politicians! We need plain old citizens willing to serve for some period of time. Are you willing?

[corbe]

   My DWI in '90 precluded me from stepping up and running for City Councilmember when we made history in recalling the SOB in power.  First and only time it's been done.   @Bigun

   This is my Campaign Poster.

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/DavidLimbaugh/status/1844311907509076402

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/DavidLimbaugh/status/1844317753718796542

[corbe]

   I had to remind my 92yo Mother today who just mailed her absentee ballot for Trump in TX, that I would crawl across cut glass to vote Trump IF I lived in a Swing State. Trump will take all 40 Electoral Votes regardless of if I make it to the polls are not and Cruz will win by >3%. 

   If this all they got, I'm not impressed, enough.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No... the problem is in the dissent. Tumpy will not get the Christian vote en bloc. Guaranteed.

Are you Christian @roamer_1

[roamer_1]

Are you Christian @roamer_1

Deeply, albeit irregularly, according to the major divisions.

[mountaineer]

Megan Basham
@megbasham
It is absolutely disgusting that the Democrats’ strategy to overcome Kamala Harris’ problem with men is to claim Trump will ban porn. They are telling men *we are the party that will protect your porn.*
No Christian can justify supporting this.
9:16 AM · Oct 12, 2024

[IsailedawayfromFR]

[Fishrrman]

Wise words in the graphic immediately above...

[roamer_1]

No, it is not. It is your endorsement. It is your acquiescence and approval. That is all it is, and that is all it can ever be.

[Kamaji]

No, it is not. It is your endorsement. It is your acquiescence and approval. That is all it is, and that is all it can ever be.

And one's refusal to vote at all is one's acquiescence in, and approval of, whatever the majority (or, more likely, the plurality) choose.

[roamer_1]

And one's refusal to vote at all is one's acquiescence in, and approval of, whatever the majority (or, more likely, the plurality) choose.

Annnd here we are, right back at the shit sandwich vs turdburger argument. 

[ScottinVA]

When the real persecution begins — and under woke leftists it will — they will wish they had voted when it mattered.

[Bigun]

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

Deitrich Bonhoeffer

 

[mountaineer]

When the real persecution begins — and under woke leftists it will — they will wish they had voted when it mattered.

Agreed.

[Hoodat]

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

Deitrich Bonhoeffer

Who's staying silent here?  One can still denounce evil without voting for the GOP candidate.


In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.

-Ayn Rand-

[Hoodat]

When the real persecution begins — and under woke leftists it will — they will wish they had voted when it mattered.

Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”

1 Kings 19:18

[corbe]

   IMHO, the run of the mill Christian wouldn't vote for Jesus today, if he appeared.  As they didn't 2000 years ago when he was up against Barabbas, they be too busy conning people and making $$$$ off immigration. 

   Wait, wasn't Jesus an Immigrant?

[roamer_1]

When the real persecution begins — and under woke leftists it will — they will wish they had voted when it mattered.

The question now is whether that leftism will come from the left or the right. and who exactly will have voted for it.

I will have no regret for voting my conscience.

[bilo]

Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”

1 Kings 19:18

And who are the leftists siding with, it sure isn't the LORD.

[mountaineer]

Pastoral messages like this don't help matters:

Megan Basham
@megbasham
Last week, Matt Chandler, megachurch pastor and head of the massive church planting network Acts 29, gave a sermon on politics. In it, he pushed the false narrative, peddled by progressives, that the only reason that the GOP took up the issue of abortion was because they "were losing elections" and "developed a strategy in the 70s to co opt us and make [Christians] their people."

He goes on to say: "[The GOP] know we're easily manipulated. We are easily worked into a frenzy. We can be controlled by them. They can, and that's what they did, and they are not for us. They do not all believe what we believe. This is a strategy."

He does then call out the left for their pro-abortion policies, which he calls "morally reprehensible." BUT the overall upshot of his sermon recycles the old "both sides are bad." He specifically stresses that he does not trust Trump. Where does that leave his congregation? Likely sitting out or voting third party. He leaves his hearer with the impression that the two sides are moral equivalents.

It is true that prior to the 1970s, Republicans did not view the sanctity of life as part of their platform. But a generation of Christians labored and prayed and strategized and lobbied to try to get one of the major political parties to take up their cause.

These were  faithful brothers and sisters following Scripture's commands to "rescue those being led away to death" and to "take up the cause of fatherless and oppressed."

In peddling this false left-wing narrative, Chandler is dismissing their efforts and sacrifices. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he is spitting on their legacy.

The work of politics is to use the leverage you have as a voting constituency to get legislators to take up your preferred policies. There is nothing dirty or sneaky in that. It is what the political process is. We should celebrate the fact that Christian pro-lifers of a previous generation did so so successfully with the GOP. We should not denigrate their work.

And remember--for decades these pro-lifers tried to get Democrats to take up their cause too and failed. That is to the Democrats' shame. We should thank God at least one party was willing to give life a seat at the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4wP4xIydU
11:22 AM · Oct 17, 2024

This is the same pastor (or impastor, if you will) who has argued that Christians "must address white privilege."