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JD Vance’s Debate Performance Shows This Guy Is a Conservative Superstar
Kurt Schlichter


One thing is clear – after Tuesday, JD Vance is the Republican Taylor Swift, except he’s not mediocre, insufferable, or incapable of maintaining a long-term relationship. But does that matter for November? They say that vice presidential debates don’t mean anything and that’s usually true. Still, this one conclusively demonstrated that JD Vance is an outstanding speaker – calm, cool, capable, and in charge of the facts. Let’s be objective about his opponent. Tim Walz was not terrible. In some ways, he was effective. Vance did not totally destroy him, though he could have if he chose to. Walz was competent but overshadowed by a giant 20 years his junior.

Walz spewed Democrat talking points and did it while wearing his centrist suit. Except it is an ill-fitting suit. He’s no centrist. He’s a straight-up commie weirdo all on-board with the left’s bizarre, perverted agenda. He’s all in with the Democrat Party on everything from abortions up to puberty and trans idiocy to redistributing the wealth and confiscating the guns. But on Tuesday, he managed to present himself as innocuous, like an annoying neighbor you look out your door for before leaving to make sure he’s not in the yard so you don’t have to talk to him.

It’s now beyond any serious dispute that JD Vance was a terrific choice for vice president. He’s very smart and he’s adaptable. He knows how to connect with an audience. Sure, there were a hundred things I would’ve liked him to say to counter the arguments made by Walz and his two other opponents, the generic CBS crones who were moderating. They tried to get uppity, but their awkward fact checking failed. They behaved themselves after JD Vance cracked the whip and imposed his iron discipline upon them. Except for some passive aggressive catty comments, they pretty much behaved after that. It was a nice display of power.

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And jets up to the top of the heap on the 2028 POTUS sweepstakes.

One intanglible that a lot of pundits are throwing out there, is that the usual premise that the VPOTUS debate doesn't matter, is wrong with Vance.  The MSM has slimed Vance so badly, that a vast majority of especially the female electorate had negative numbers on JDV. 

Watch JDV's favorables among women jump in the next week or two.  Still remains will it help much, but 50K votes here, and there can make a big  difference in a race this close.
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Now, pray that we can just get Trump/Vance into the oval office .....  :patriot:

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Now, pray that we can just get Trump/Vance into the oval office .....  :patriot:

And at this exact moment, anyone saying they know who is going to win is lying. 
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And jets up to the top of the heap on the 2028 POTUS sweepstakes.

One intanglible that a lot of pundits are throwing out there, is that the usual premise that the VPOTUS debate doesn't matter, is wrong with Vance.  The MSM has slimed Vance so badly, that a vast majority of especially the female electorate had negative numbers on JDV. 

Watch JDV's favorables among women jump in the next week or two.  Still remains will it help much, but 50K votes here, and there can make a big  difference in a race this close.

I think DeSantis is termed out after his is done, but to be honest I hate losing a stellar Governor of a state to the Presidency, like say Sanders. Vance would be a nice alternative, but most importantly it increases the pool of valid candidates to draw on. I don't want to get like the Rats who have no talent in the pen.
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I think DeSantis is termed out after his is done, but to be honest I hate losing a stellar Governor of a state to the Presidency, like say Sanders. Vance would be a nice alternative, but most importantly it increases the pool of valid candidates to draw on. I don't want to get like the Rats who have no talent in the pen.

Great points....

We got Vance, RDS, Vivek (eligible?), and few other stars in the bull pen.   The dims?  Newsome? Whitmer? Shapiro?  We are better positioned than they are.
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And jets up to the top of the heap on the 2028 POTUS sweepstakes.

One intanglible that a lot of pundits are throwing out there, is that the usual premise that the VPOTUS debate doesn't matter, is wrong with Vance.  The MSM has slimed Vance so badly, that a vast majority of especially the female electorate had negative numbers on JDV. 

Watch JDV's favorables among women jump in the next week or two.  Still remains will it help much, but 50K votes here, and there can make a big  difference in a race this close.
Yeah, 50K votes would mean the Democrats had to print that many more bogus ballots.

I may be in denial, I may be misinterpreting the American People, but I don't think the race is that close. I think polls are carefully sampled to produce desired results and those results presented to the public to demoralize, and to prepare us all for the improbable results of blatant theft so we can be called 'conspiracy theorists' for even thinking that the election might be stolen.

I think the 'fix' was in for Hillary, but they grossly underestimated the support Trump had, and could not react fast enough to adjust the numbers for her upward. What they thought was a comfortable but not outrageous margin of victory got overrun by reality.

By 2020, however, the Democrats had upped their game and come up with a host of ways to make adjustments to the totals before the voting ended (harvesting, stuffing drop boxes), on the fly (tabulating algorithms) and as the votes were being counted. Even then, they had to stop the count in critical states to adjust the Democrat totals upward (again), underestimating Trump's support.

Here we go again, and they've had four more years and a midterm to further refine their techniques.

Their candidates, despite gushing reviews from ABCNNBCBS are deeply flawed (that's as nice as I can be with that). Not suitable for service. Two assassination attempts have failed, despite having inside intel or sabotaged security, and the Dems are getting desperate.

Their incompetence is on full display for anyone willing to look, and the current longshoreman's strike is about to really hammer that home. Israel is shooting down the money Biden released to Iran, now seen in the form of incoming missile barrages, shipping is being attacked and critical support vessels are out of commission while our military can't meet enlistment quotas.

FEMA is a disaster, supposed to provide relief, not be the problem, and appears so intent on being in control that they are squandering opportunity to provide critical emergency aid while thwarting those who have been providing it from the start.

With these and the egregious failings in the economy, inflation foremost, always downward revisions to employment numbers, and importing tens of millions of illegal aliens, it's a wonder that anyone would vote for four more years of this mismanagement.

Insanity takes many forms, but the election should be anything but close.
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Yeah, 50K votes would mean the Democrats had to print that many more bogus ballots.

I may be in denial, I may be misinterpreting the American People, but I don't think the race is that close. I think polls are carefully sampled to produce desired results and those results presented to the public to demoralize, and to prepare us all for the improbable results of blatant theft so we can be called 'conspiracy theorists' for even thinking that the election might be stolen.

I think the 'fix' was in for Hillary, but they grossly underestimated the support Trump had, and could not react fast enough to adjust the numbers for her upward. What they thought was a comfortable but not outrageous margin of victory got overrun by reality.

By 2020, however, the Democrats had upped their game and come up with a host of ways to make adjustments to the totals before the voting ended (harvesting, stuffing drop boxes), on the fly (tabulating algorithms) and as the votes were being counted. Even then, they had to stop the count in critical states to adjust the Democrat totals upward (again), underestimating Trump's support.

Here we go again, and they've had four more years and a midterm to further refine their techniques.

Their candidates, despite gushing reviews from ABCNNBCBS are deeply flawed (that's as nice as I can be with that). Not suitable for service. Two assassination attempts have failed, despite having inside intel or sabotaged security, and the Dems are getting desperate.

Their incompetence is on full display for anyone willing to look, and the current longshoreman's strike is about to really hammer that home. Israel is shooting down the money Biden released to Iran, now seen in the form of incoming missile barrages, shipping is being attacked and critical support vessels are out of commission while our military can't meet enlistment quotas.

FEMA is a disaster, supposed to provide relief, not be the problem, and appears so intent on being in control that they are squandering opportunity to provide critical emergency aid while thwarting those who have been providing it from the start.

With these and the egregious failings in the economy, inflation foremost, always downward revisions to employment numbers, and importing tens of millions of illegal aliens, it's a wonder that anyone would vote for four more years of this mismanagement.

Insanity takes many forms, but the election should be anything but close.

I share your mistrust of the process, as what we watched in the wee hours of the morning on November 4, 2020 was proof.  Sadly, the dims have perfected a way to cheat via a million paper cuts, rather than creating that "smoking gun".

My hope is that Trump is winning bigger than advertised, and that the MSM polling is a "bandwaggoning" ruse, much like they bias debates.  The 4$M dollar question is......  How much of a buffer does Trump need to beat it?  I am guessing 2% in those swing states.

OTOH, the feckless GOP knew the last election was stolen (but won't admit it), but hasn't done enough to prevent a reoccurence. Don't forget .....  A huge faction of the dimocratic socialist have gone on record to say...  "Donald Trump Can Not Be President".  We have to take that threat seriously.   But at this late date......  There may be no solution.
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I don't give my heart to any politician, but o a political level, Trump seems to have set up Vance as a potential "successor" of very similar views and personality.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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I think DeSantis is termed out after his is done, but to be honest I hate losing a stellar Governor of a state to the Presidency, like say Sanders. Vance would be a nice alternative, but most importantly it increases the pool of valid candidates to draw on. I don't want to get like the Rats who have no talent in the pen.

Yes, DeSantis' term will be over.  I don't know what's going to happen here in FL with so many from up north moving in; in this area primarily they are from NY or NJ. Who knows how they will vote.  I'm concerned about Scott keeping his Senate seat and the FL legislature. No, I'm not a fan of Scott, but I will hold my nose and vote for him this time around.

Finding someone to fill DeSantis shoes in FL is going to be difficult. He's an excellent governor.

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I don't give my heart to any politician, but o a political level, Trump seems to have set up Vance as a potential "successor" of very similar views and personality.

Interesting viewpoint.  I don't see a whole lot of Trump's personality in Vance.  Vance has the ability to remain calm and what he claims is truthful (at lest from what I can tell).  Trump is quick to react and sometimes stretches the truth a bit.

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Great points....

We got Vance, RDS, Vivek (eligible?), and few other stars in the bull pen.   The dims?  Newsome? Whitmer? Shapiro?  We are better positioned than they are.

The GOP has to seat Trump/Vance in order to have any chance of the GOP winning a seat in '28.  IF the DEMS win they will dismantle this country, grant mass amnesty and blatantly ignore the rule of law.  They are about as anti-American as you can get.

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Great points....

We got Vance, RDS, Vivek (eligible?), and few other stars in the bull pen.   The dims?  Newsome? Whitmer? Shapiro?  We are better positioned than they are.

If Kommiela and Obama are eligible the so is Vivek but my informed opinion is that NONE of them are.
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Interesting viewpoint.  I don't see a whole lot of Trump's personality in Vance.  Vance has the ability to remain calm and what he claims is truthful (at lest from what I can tell).  Trump is quick to react and sometimes stretches the truth a bit.

Watch JD on the campaign trail ---- rallies, media interactions, retail politics and you see and hear Trump.  Four years as Trump's understudy and all this is sharpened as well as added negotiating skills and hands on foreign policy experience.

Four years as VP under Trump and the 2028 nomination will be JD's to lose.

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Four years as VP under Trump and the 2028 nomination will be JD's to lose.

I would have debated that point until Tuesday.  It is his to lose now.  He gave what I feel was one ifthe greatest VPOTUS/POTUS debate performance of all time.  This even if Trump wins or loses next month.
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What I see that Vance has in common with Trump - call it personality, call it a pastrami sandwich - is that he fights. Very unlike the more genteel R Party marshmallows.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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What I see that Vance has in common with Trump - call it personality, call it a pastrami sandwich - is that he fights. Very unlike the more genteel R Party marshmallows.

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The moment JDV called out those bitches on fact checking was one of the most bad ass debate moments ever. 

Their fumbling to cut his mic, only made them look sillier.
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What I see that Vance has in common with Trump - call it personality, call it a pastrami sandwich - that he fights. is Very unlike the more genteel R Party marshmallows.



I can agree with that. Other than that, I don't see personality commonality.

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Watch JD on the campaign trail ---- rallies, media interactions, retail politics and you see and hear Trump.  Four years as Trump's understudy and all this is sharpened as well as added negotiating skills and hands on foreign policy experience.

Four years as VP under Trump and the 2028 nomination will be JD's to lose.

I haven't tuned in to one of JD's rallies, but his debate performance was admirable from what I watched. His to lose in '28?  I think many are getting ahead of themselves here. I think it largely depends on IF Trump has a majority in the House or Senate, without either, he's going to run into a lot of opposition just as he did in his last presidency.

It's not a very rosy picture for the GOP winning either Houses of Congress.

Sure, I'd love to see Trump and JD succeed, but people are so caught up in the presidential race, that they are forgetting those GOP down ballot need to win in order for the GOP to gain some much needed traction.

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I haven't tuned in to one of JD's rallies, but his debate performance was admirable from what I watched. His to lose in '28?  I think many are getting ahead of themselves here. I think it largely depends on IF Trump has a majority in the House or Senate, without either, he's going to run into a lot of opposition just as he did in his last presidency.

It's not a very rosy picture for the GOP winning either Houses of Congress.

Sure, I'd love to see Trump and JD succeed, but people are so caught up in the presidential race, that they are forgetting those GOP down ballot need to win in order for the GOP to gain some much needed traction.

I liked JD Vance for this from the get-go, I read Hillbilly Elegy.  He is performing exactly as well as I expected.  For the first time I can remember, a Presidential Candidate heard me when I begged, "Please choose a VP that can be the succeeding President."

Instead, I got people like Sarah Palin (who I liked, personally), Paul Ryan, Pence and worst of all, Dick Cheney.  That one guaranteed the Rats would have a clear field in 2008.
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I liked JD Vance for this from the get-go, I read Hillbilly Elegy.  He is performing exactly as well as I expected.  For the first time I can remember, a Presidential Candidate heard me when I begged, "Please choose a VP that can be the succeeding President."

Instead, I got people like Sarah Palin (who I liked, personally), Paul Ryan, Pence and worst of all, Dick Cheney.  That one guaranteed the Rats would have a clear field in 2008.

Of all those that you have mentioned, I agree, that JD is the best of them all.

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catfish [wisely] predicts:
"And jets up to the top of the heap on the 2028 POTUS sweepstakes"

Regardless of whether Mr. Trump loses or wins on November 5th, 2028 looks to be pretty much a shape-up between J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis...

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catfish wrote (in reply to Smokin' Joe):
"I share your mistrust of the process, as what we watched in the wee hours of the morning on November 4, 2020 was proof.  Sadly, the dims have perfected a way to cheat via a million paper cuts, rather than creating that "smoking gun"."

Gents, I've posted about this many times since 2020.
It's called "the underground and above-ground election apparatus", and it's been in place for some time now. (I claim credit for coming up with that term)

The Party is incrementally creating a system by which it can control election outcomes where required. Not just in the "battleground" states, but EVERYWHERE (although that's long-term and not in place yet).

When many think of old-time election stealing, it might be to people filling out fake ballots, ballot-box stuffing, etc. Of course, that's still true.

But the "underground" part of the apparatus has grown more sophisticated than that. It's now about mass-producing large numbers of high-quality phony ballots, and getting them distributed where needed.

It's also about working and worming into the electronic recording/tabulation as well.

However, some of The Party's greatest accomplishments re "the apparatus" is ABOVE-ground, things you see in plain sight.

Examples:
- mail in ballots (statewide, in a few states now I believe)
- provisional ballots (aren't these available almost everywhere?)
- ranked-choice voting (now in Maine and Alaska, among other places?)
- ballot harvesting
- ballot drop boxes
- absentee ballots (without real "need")
- motor-voter (taking the fast-lane to cheating)
- permitting aliens to vote ANYwhere
(there probably are more I'm not thinking of)

These are ALL examples of the left's intent to thwart traditional voting and establish more control over the outcomes. Yet most (including conservative, traditional-minded Americans) just "accept" this now, without protest or any conviction at all that such processes should be reversed and outlawed.

For some reason, no one ever comments when I post about "the apparatus".
Why is that?

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For some reason, no one ever comments when I post about "the apparatus".
Why is that?

Speaking for myself @Fishrrman I am very aware of the stolen election and the 'tactics' of the leftists.  You have repeated many, many times about "the apparatus", so what more is there to comment on? I get it.  I've known about it.  I agree with you.

The GOP/RNC should have addressed this problem long ago -- little was done.  So expecting a different outcome without change is going to take a miracle.

There's nothing at this point that I know of that we as individuals can do.  I believe the time frame for applying and training to be poll watchers and precinct captains where some sort of 'control' and input regarding the voting, is probably over.

I believe that is one area that I have touched upon that I felt Trump needed to be hitting home in his rallies to his supporters-- that those that have the time and physical abilities to be a precinct captain, poll watcher or some kind of involvement in their local precincts was very much needed.  As far as I know he didn't do that. Here we sit.

So yes, I have heard you many, many times about the 'apparatus'.
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