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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #300 on: October 01, 2024, 10:53:29 pm »
I fell asleep.

You missed the best VPOTUS/POTUS debate performance of our lifetime.
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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #301 on: October 01, 2024, 10:53:53 pm »
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« Reply #303 on: October 01, 2024, 10:57:49 pm »
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When Trump took office, Iran was 12-18 months if not longer from acquiring a nuclear weapon—-then he dropped the deal and now they are weeks away….just saying
Trump took office 7¾ years ago.

So if they still don't have it yet, Trump was doing something right.

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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #304 on: October 01, 2024, 10:58:26 pm »
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My moderate, never Trumper friends are currently blown away at how reassuring they find JD Vance. Getting blown up with texts. The base already loves him. This is politics by addition. BOOM!

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« Reply #305 on: October 01, 2024, 10:59:39 pm »
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If JD Vance were a stock, he'd be Nvidia $NVDA April 2019
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« Reply #306 on: October 01, 2024, 11:01:14 pm »
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Kamala Harris knew about the stolen valor, the ties to China, the tampons, and she met with Tim Walz, and saw that he was scared of his own shadow, and she still picked him.

Two useful idiots do not make a President.
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« Reply #307 on: October 01, 2024, 11:02:34 pm »
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By the end of this debate I’m pretty sure that Walz is gonna vote for JD
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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #308 on: October 01, 2024, 11:03:51 pm »
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I would have liked to have seen JD Vance go for the jugular on several occasions.

That said--his lowkey, diplomatic, studious, even kindly performance was brilliant. He introduced himself to millions of Americans who have been told by the media he's a woman-hating ogre and successfully debunked the media's grotesquely misleading portrayal of JD Vance.
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« Reply #309 on: October 01, 2024, 11:04:58 pm »
You missed the best VPOTUS/POTUS debate performance of our lifetime.

Never cared for Veep debates?  :shrug:

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« Reply #310 on: October 01, 2024, 11:24:45 pm »
   It was a Great VP Debate AND Thank You @Myst for making it so enjoyable.
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« Reply #311 on: October 01, 2024, 11:35:17 pm »
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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #312 on: October 01, 2024, 11:55:28 pm »
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I would have liked to have seen JD Vance go for the jugular on several occasions.

That said--his lowkey, diplomatic, studious, even kindly performance was brilliant. He introduced himself to millions of Americans who have been told by the media he's a woman-hating ogre and successfully debunked the media's grotesquely misleading portrayal of JD Vance.

To the extent that it matters, he acquitted himself and won the debate.  We can hope more people remember that instead of the mess Trump is posting online this evening. 

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« Reply #313 on: October 02, 2024, 12:16:10 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmrySyvOOqk


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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #316 on: October 02, 2024, 08:13:53 am »
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Like most vice presidents in this era, Garner had little to do and little influence on the president's policies. He famously described the vice presidency as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss" (for many years, this quote was bowdlerized as "warm spit").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nance_Garner#:~:text=Like%20most%20vice%20presidents%20in,as%20%22warm%20spit%22).
 
FWIW what I did see of JD Vance was pretty damn good. Polished, earnest, knowledgeable.
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« Reply #317 on: October 02, 2024, 08:14:27 am »
Read the full VP debate transcript from the Walz-Vance showdown

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The full VP debate transcript

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Re: Live: Vice Presidential Debate
« Reply #318 on: October 02, 2024, 09:12:49 am »
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I'll be on CNN at 11:30 with some thoughts, but here are my notes from tonight's VP debate:

As the candidates for Vice President took the stage in New York last night, the state of North Carolina was under water, Israel was under siege, the American supply chain was under threat of disruption and the American people were under the impression that there’s a leadership void in the White House.

In other words, the conditions existed for Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to stick it to the incumbent party, represented by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. And Vance delivered in spades. From the opening bell, Walz was nervous, overmatched, and out of his depth, especially when dealing with foreign policy matters like the ongoing attacks on Israel.

Gov. Walz simply wandered into the wrong bar. And as the night wore on it became evident that Kamala Harris made a lousy choice. Somewhere, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro – perhaps the most talented young communicator in the Democratic Party and the person that Harris should have chosen – must’ve been laughing his rear end off.

On issue after issue, Vance delivered smooth, well-constructed arguments while Walz often answered haltingly, like an online video struggling to buffer on a slow Wi-Fi connection. There hasn’t been a vice-presidential candidate this out of his depth since Admiral James Stockdale delivered his famous “who am I and why am I here?” line in the 1992 campaign.

The late admiral aside, vice presidential debates don’t often leave a lasting impression. The only thing anyone can remember from the 2020 version was that a fly landed on Mike Pence’s head. And 2016? I’ve yet to meet anyone in my travels this year who remember that Tim Kaine was the Democratic nominee for vice president, let alone anything he said in a debate.

And before last night’s tilt I wasn’t expecting too much to change because of the 2024 episode of this show. I know Vance is good on TV, and I know Walz has virtually no idea what he’s doing at this level of politics.

But I was shocked – shocked – at just how ill prepared Walz was for his one and only big-ticket task in this campaign.

There isn’t much Vance or anyone else can do to change perceptions of Donald Trump at this point. He’s run for president three times, serving one term that’s now viewed as a success by most Americans, according to CNN’s latest polling.

He’s been impeached twice. Shot in the ear once, and nearly assassinated by a second gunman. He’s been indicted and convicted in New York City, basically, for hooking up with a porn star 18 years ago.

And yet, Trump, by some measures, has never been more popular, mostly because Americans are remembering his term in office far more fondly than they are experiencing the Biden/Harris administration.

But Harris is a different story. She’s known, but people don’t know her as well as they know Trump. Opinions are still being formed about Harris, and whether she’s earned a promotion.

And one of the most consequential political decisions a presidential candidate makes is choosing a running mate. The political media has run with the narrative, to date, that Trump made a terrible choice and Harris made an inspired pick.

After this debate, there’s no way they can keep up this charade. Walz isn’t appealing to any moderate Republicans. He’s not reassuring conservative white males that Harris isn’t a progressive-in-moderate’s clothing. He was barely functional over the 90-minute show, having perfected a look of sheer terror and complete bafflement all at the same time.

Walz’s performance surely made everyone wonder how Harris came to choose him for the national ticket, and whether Harris herself possesses the executive decision-making capacity to serve as president. Walz’s two and half minute answer to why he lied about the nature and timing of his trips to China would’ve gotten the former teacher kicked out of any high school debate club in Minnesota.

And for Vance, who has been pilloried for past comments made on old podcasts and before he became a believer in Trump’s leadership style, it was a night of redemption and validation. The 39-year-old Ohioan, a scant two years into his first term in the U.S. Senate, showed the Republican Party how to communicate calmly and with compassion. He admitted some shortcomings when he needed to, and pressed attacks when it made sense.

Vance even won the exchange with Walz on abortion in a masterful pivot, admitting how his views have changed on the topic because of a referendum in his own home state. Walz, for his part, sidestepped questions about any restrictions that he and Harris would support.
After last night, it is hard to imagine Gov. Walz sitting in the Situation Room as some national or international emergency unfolds.
But Vance? He passed the test and proved that he belongs at this level of American politics.

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« Reply #319 on: October 02, 2024, 09:15:14 am »
ABC’s Linsey Davis Likens Walz Debate Performance to Biden June Debate Effort

On Tuesday, after the vice-presidential debate had concluded, ABC News’ Linsey Davis, one of the moderators of last month’s presidential debate, said Democratic vice-presidential nominee Gov. Tim Walz’s (D-MN) performance left much to be desired.

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« Reply #320 on: October 02, 2024, 09:16:47 am »
Tim Walz Names Taylor Swift Among Members of ‘Coalition Kamala Harris Has Built’

Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) said Tuesday that Vice President Kamala Harris (D) has built a “coalition” that included people such as pop star Taylor Swift.

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« Reply #321 on: October 02, 2024, 09:17:56 am »
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Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate between Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Republican Senator JD Vance showcased two candidates with distinct styles, but for one of them, it was a rough ride. The liberal media may not want to admit it, but Walz’s performance left many questioning his place on the Harris-Walz ticket. In a surprising twist, even ABC’s Linsey Davis compared Walz’s performance to President Joe Biden’s humiliating debate in June—a clear sign that the pressure is mounting.



Imagine Walz being replaced by Hillary Clinton on the ticket.

They are pissed that they couldn't shield him from getting his ass kicked. Americans got to see the real Tim Walz. Just wait until they get to see the real Kamala. She can't hide forever.

https://www.rightjournalism.com/video-abc-compares-tim-walzs-debate-performance-to-joe-bidens-but-is-it-too-late-to-replace-him/

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« Reply #323 on: October 02, 2024, 09:21:22 am »
FNC’s Hume: ‘The Moderators Were Obnoxious’

Following the conclusion of Tuesday’s vice-presidential debate, Fox News senior network political contributor Brit Hume first took aim at the debate moderators Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan for what he described as teaming up against Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), the GOP vice-presidential nominee.

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