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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #275 on: November 04, 2024, 01:10:29 am »
Toretsk:  Russians call this "liberation".

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #276 on: November 04, 2024, 01:17:36 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #277 on: November 04, 2024, 12:40:02 pm »
How Biden Got Suckered by Putin

https://freebeacon.com/culture/how-biden-got-suckered-by-putin/

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As Woodward explains, "the fiasco of the U.S. withdrawal was a centerpiece of Putin’s disdain" for Biden’s decision-making, and within several months U.S. intelligence agencies learned that Putin was planning an intensified assault against Ukraine. War’s references to this information, "including a human source inside the Kremlin," notwithstanding Blinken’s assertion that just "three to four people" actually knew Putin’s intent, leave a reader somewhat perplexed, as other passages—"information from inside the Kremlin" and "intelligence of conversations inside the Kremlin"—suggest "sigint"—signals intelligence—rather than "humint"—a human mole.

No matter whether this is "either/or," or imaginably "both/and," this level of disclosure, of course, threatens to "burn" whatever the source or method was. Then, almost a year later, in September 2022, as Ukraine valiantly continued to resist the Russian invasion and successfully liberated large swaths of territory both southeast of Kharkiv and near Kherson in the south, the United States obtained "new highly sensitive, credible conversations inside the Kremlin showing" that Putin was "seriously considering" the use of a tactical nuclear weapon to avoid losing Kherson city. U.S. intelligence, Woodward writes, reported there was "a 50 percent chance Putin would order the use of tactical nuclear weapons," plural.

On October 21, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin informed his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, that "we know you are contemplating the use of tactical nuclear weapons" and that doing so would have "existential implications for you." That might have sounded like a warning that the United States would terminate Putin’s regime, but to his aides, the president actually was articulating a completely contrary message. "Biden had said privately that if Putin used a tactical nuclear weapon … the U.S. would not respond with nuclear weapons," Woodward reports. "I’m not going to have a nuclear response," he quotes Biden, and in what should be seen as the most newsworthy statement in War, Biden told Jake Sullivan that "if we do succeed in ejecting Russia from Ukraine, we face a very strong likelihood of nuclear use. … Too much success is nukes." As any reader pondering that quotation will quickly realize, that meant that Joe Biden did not—and thus does not—actually want Ukraine to win by retaking all of its sovereign territory from the Russian invaders. Why has the Biden administration’s military support of Ukraine been so insistently grudging and drip-drip? There’s the answer!

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #278 on: November 06, 2024, 01:47:26 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #279 on: November 07, 2024, 11:27:27 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on November 04, 2024, 12:40:02 pm
"I’m not going to have a nuclear response," he quotes Biden, and in what should be seen as the most newsworthy statement in War, Biden told Jake Sullivan that "if we do succeed in ejecting Russia from Ukraine, we face a very strong likelihood of nuclear use. … Too much success is nukes." As any reader pondering that quotation will quickly realize, that meant that Joe Biden did not—and thus does not—actually want Ukraine to win by retaking all of its sovereign territory from the Russian invaders. Why has the Biden administration’s military support of Ukraine been so insistently grudging and drip-drip?

Joe Biden is no friend to Ukraine.  He is simply using Ukrainian blood to launder US taxpayer money.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #280 on: November 07, 2024, 11:28:35 pm »
DAY 94 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA


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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #281 on: November 07, 2024, 11:35:26 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #282 on: November 07, 2024, 11:39:49 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #283 on: November 07, 2024, 11:40:51 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #284 on: November 07, 2024, 11:45:21 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #285 on: November 07, 2024, 11:47:14 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #286 on: November 07, 2024, 11:58:46 pm »
Why Does Putin Want Donbas So Much?

Alexander Query  |  Nov 07, 2024  |  19:46

The Russian army’s push for Donbas is not only a matter of symbol in Vladimir Putin’s twisted vision of history; it’s also a matter of resources. Russia’s hold on Donbas would deprive Ukraine of vital resources for its industry.

Donbas, Ukraine’s historic industrial heart, has long powered the country’s iron and steel industry thanks to its soil rich in coal, to the point that the Donetsk football team means “miners”—a symbol overly used in Russia’s propaganda when the Kremlin started its undeclared war in the region in 2014.

Most recently, Russia has been pushing to capture Pokrovsk, a key logistic hub and city home to a massive coal mine.

It wouldn’t only mean Russia manages to reach the region's border. Pokrovsk would give the Russians access to the town's rail and road infrastructure, which provides supplies and reinforcements to Ukraine’s defenders.

A Russian flag on Pokrovsk would also allow the Kremlin to steal precious coal from Ukraine, a resource much needed for its iron and steel industry, a vital material to build weapons and heavy machinery.

Industrial coke, a crucial element in steelmaking, is Ukraine’s second most profitable sector after agriculture.

Metal exports brought Ukraine roughly $2 billion in 2024  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/why-does-putin-want-donbas-so-much-3590


This war is about one thing and one thing only - greed.  Ukraine has things that Russia wants.  And they are prepared to rid the entire country of Ukrainians to get what they want.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #287 on: November 08, 2024, 12:40:33 am »
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Joe Biden is no friend to Ukraine.  He is simply using Ukrainian blood to launder US taxpayer money.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #288 on: November 08, 2024, 02:37:46 pm »

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #289 on: November 08, 2024, 03:32:33 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 07, 2024, 11:58:46 pm
Why Does Putin Want Donbas So Much?

Alexander Query  |  Nov 07, 2024  |  19:46

The Russian army’s push for Donbas is not only a matter of symbol in Vladimir Putin’s twisted vision of history; it’s also a matter of resources. Russia’s hold on Donbas would deprive Ukraine of vital resources for its industry.

Donbas, Ukraine’s historic industrial heart, has long powered the country’s iron and steel industry thanks to its soil rich in coal, to the point that the Donetsk football team means “miners”—a symbol overly used in Russia’s propaganda when the Kremlin started its undeclared war in the region in 2014.

Most recently, Russia has been pushing to capture Pokrovsk, a key logistic hub and city home to a massive coal mine.

It wouldn’t only mean Russia manages to reach the region's border. Pokrovsk would give the Russians access to the town's rail and road infrastructure, which provides supplies and reinforcements to Ukraine’s defenders.

A Russian flag on Pokrovsk would also allow the Kremlin to steal precious coal from Ukraine, a resource much needed for its iron and steel industry, a vital material to build weapons and heavy machinery.

Industrial coke, a crucial element in steelmaking, is Ukraine’s second most profitable sector after agriculture.

Metal exports brought Ukraine roughly $2 billion in 2024  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/why-does-putin-want-donbas-so-much-3590


This war is about one thing and one thing only - greed.  Ukraine has things that Russia wants.  And they are prepared to rid the entire country of Ukrainians to get what they want.
Donbas also has 87% of Ukraine's modest Oil and Gas production.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #290 on: November 08, 2024, 03:33:13 pm »
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Contracts to skim!
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #291 on: November 08, 2024, 04:00:42 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2024, 03:33:13 pm
Contracts to skim!

I spit balled about 6 months ago, about some kind of swap of Crimea for an independent monitored  election in the eastern Uke Provinces.  Then let the population decided their loyalties.  I bet this is something that Trump's bouncing around.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #292 on: November 09, 2024, 12:56:05 am »
DAY 96 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA



https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1854885258031747455
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« Reply #293 on: November 09, 2024, 12:58:38 am »
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« Reply #294 on: November 09, 2024, 12:59:43 am »
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« Reply #295 on: November 09, 2024, 01:00:46 am »
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« Reply #296 on: November 09, 2024, 01:01:48 am »
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« Reply #297 on: November 09, 2024, 01:06:05 am »
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« Reply #298 on: November 09, 2024, 01:11:45 am »
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« Reply #299 on: November 09, 2024, 01:15:25 am »
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