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« Reply #1504 on: February 02, 2025, 09:54:09 am »
Does anyone really put stock that there have been 893K Russian deaths?  Putting that into context that is over 200K more than the United States lost in all 11 wars combined (1775-2025) i.e 658K

Quck eyeball of Russia demographics shows that there is approx 7M Russian men age 20-30.  10%+ loss?  Hmmmmm.....
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« Reply #1505 on: February 02, 2025, 10:01:24 am »
220,000 Russian deaths, the rest are injured

And North Korea already has about 1000 dead/3000 injured, out of 12,000 sent

For perspective -

Russia lost about 7500 troops in the 2 Chechnyen Wars, and about 15,000 in Afghanistan

BUT, the Afghanistan losses occurred over 10 years ... and Putin has managed to kill as 15X as many in less than 1/3 of the time! That's monstrous behavior!!!
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« Reply #1506 on: February 02, 2025, 10:21:31 am »
Quote from: Canuck Conservative on February 02, 2025, 10:01:24 am
220,000 Russian deaths, the rest are injured

And North Korea already has about 1000 dead/3000 injured, out of 12,000 sent

For perspective -

Russia lost about 7500 troops in the 2 Chechnyen Wars, and about 15,000 in Afghanistan

BUT, the Afghanistan losses occurred over 10 years ... and Putin has managed to kill as 15X as many in less than 1/3 of the time! That's monstrous behavior!!!

thx.  but even 893K is a huge demographic hole for Russia.  How and why the Russians haven't showed up at the Kremlin with pitchforks is amazing.

And again, if that number is correct....  which I doubt.
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« Reply #1507 on: February 02, 2025, 10:27:31 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 02, 2025, 10:21:31 am
thx.  but even 893K is a huge demographic hole for Russia.  How and why the Russians haven't showed up at the Kremlin with pitchforks is amazing.

And again, if that number is correct....  which I doubt.

A good number of those were prisoners and people from the far reaches of Putin's empire. Russian media is claiming they are fighting Nazis for the survival of the country. All lies. Eventually they will know the truth - and it won't be pretty.
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« Reply #1508 on: February 02, 2025, 10:35:10 am »
Eventually nothing!  Russians are not like others.  They will NOT feel anything whatsoever about what has transpired in Ukraine.  They are lied to every day, and yet they still believe the Putin controlled media, that Russia is fighting a righteous war against Nazis.  Even when they eventually hear the truth they will choose not to believe it.

Russians are the least empathetic people on the planet.  They only care about themselves, and not even other Russians.

I have seen Russian cemeteries filling with the dead from the war.  The people see proof of how their men are dying, yet they believe Putin's media of fighting a righteous war.

We are not so different.  With our controlled media, half of the USA believe the nonsense that the Biden Administration was doing good for America.  What can I say, people are gullible, here and in Russia.
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« Reply #1509 on: February 02, 2025, 11:08:52 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 02, 2025, 10:21:31 am
thx.  but even 893K is a huge demographic hole for Russia.  How and why the Russians haven't showed up at the Kremlin with pitchforks is amazing.

And again, if that number is correct....  which I doubt.

Here's today's numbers:


The "personnel" number is "casualties" which include killed, wounded, and missing.

This is a "high-tech" war.

Both sides have Intel/Surveillance/Recon (ISR)drones which document a lot of the numbers.

Both sides have First Person View (FPV) kamikaze drones which provide video of the attack up to impact. This video can be used to document success of the attack even if an ISR drone is not overhead.

There are commercial satellites with high enough resolution to do document some of the numbers. For example, if the satellite photo documents a destroyed tank, then the intel analysts can assume 3 or 4 casualties.
 
I am not saying that all of the numbers above are documented by drone or satellite. Some are estimates provided up the chain of command on a daily/weekly basis.

All of the numbers are "approximate."

About the only conclusion that I can draw is that both sides have a lot of casualties.

The numbers being published here (from x.com) are certainly more accurate than the "numbers" published on the evening news during the Vietnam war.



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« Reply #1510 on: February 02, 2025, 11:20:47 am »

https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1885766782163583234


These numbers would certainly be derived from drone videos.
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« Reply #1516 on: February 02, 2025, 03:37:23 pm »
Anxiously awaiting Battle Damage Assessment (BDA).




https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1886150050088153114
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1518 on: February 03, 2025, 02:28:22 am »
Quote from: FtrPilot on February 01, 2025, 11:28:36 am
The numbers are impressive, especially the kills on artillery systems and UAVs.

My guess is that most of the artillery kills are at night using drones with thermal cameras.

I have not seen many videos of the artillery kills. UKF are probably restricting release of these videos.

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Some time in 2023, Ukraine made a noticeable strategic change to address the high number of casualties inflicted from Russian artillery.  I don't remember the date, but there began to be a steady increase in the number of artillery systems destroyed on the daily total.  You can investigate the previous threads to locate the change.  Anyway, I started posting videos of artillery pieces being taken out, but they became too numerous.  I'll start posting them again when I run across them.  But Russian artillery is still a priority target for Ukraine's army.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1519 on: February 03, 2025, 02:43:36 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 02, 2025, 09:54:09 am
Does anyone really put stock that there have been 893K Russian deaths?  Putting that into context that is over 200K more than the United States lost in all 11 wars combined (1775-2025) i.e 658K

Quck eyeball of Russia demographics shows that there is approx 7M Russian men age 20-30.  10%+ loss?  Hmmmmm.....

On previous Ukraine threads, I posted several videos showing huge military cemeteries with freshly filled graves in Russia.  The 800k number is for total casualties, not just deaths.  I'm sure some end up being double counted, like when a Russian on crutches gets shot poling his way across an open field.  But on the whole, Russia has experienced massive casualties due to their asinine Soviet-style tactics.  The vast majority of the casualties are from east of the Urals.  We haven't seen any mass conscriptions from Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Volgograd on the scale of those in Ufa, Perm, or Makhachkala.

The bottom line is that the Russian army is in horrible shape.  Their tactics suck.  Their leadership sucks.  And they are perfectly willing to sacrifice as many Russian peasants as it takes to reconstruct the Soviet empire.
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