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Charging Electric Cars Are Wasting More Power Than You Think
Story by Camilla Jessen •


Charging your electric car might be costing you more power—and money—than you realize.

A surprising amount of electricity is lost during the charging process, and some models are much worse than others, according to a new study by the German automobile group ADAC.

Testing over 90 electric cars currently on the market, ADAC found that, on average, 14.5% of the electricity used at charging stations never even makes it to the car’s batteries.

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Stray electricity just floating around in the air?  Sounds very dangerous.

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This rush to “electric” for everything…and I mean everything…baffles me.

We used to be told electricity was very good at doing many things, but it was very expensive.  Both In itself, and sometimes via the method of performing the work desired.  Witness “space heaters” and house heat, where it was mostly proposed to use resistance. Which meant lots of electricity and thus money.
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This rush to “electric” for everything…and I mean everything…baffles me.

We used to be told electricity was very good at doing many things, but it was very expensive.  Both In itself, and sometimes via the method of performing the work desired.  Witness “space heaters” and house heat, where it was mostly proposed to use resistance. Which meant lots of electricity and thus money.

Electricity is expensive in this country ONLY because politicians have made it so. Given a true free market we would have abundant electrical power at very low cost.
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Something I rarely hear about in these discussions is the average home is not wired to take such heavy loads as charging a car battery periodically.  They usually have 600 Amp services, when they are already using at peak 500 or so Amps. 

Substations would also require expensive modifications.  All the way up the energy chain.
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Something I rarely hear about in these discussions is the average home is not wired to take such heavy loads as charging a car battery periodically.  They usually have 600 Amp services, when they are already using at peak 500 or so Amps. 

Substations would also require expensive modifications.  All the way up the energy chain.



That is one of the many objections I have to EVs. As you said, most homes don't have an electric service that will support this. And upgrading ain't cheap. Besides, we are already being hounded to conserve.

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Electricity is expensive in this country ONLY because politicians have made it so. Given a true free market we would have abundant electrical power at very low cost.

Actually if resistance is used, it would be expensive regardless.  I doubt resistance is needed much anymore to get the effects desired, but it is the extreme example, I think.  As far as gov has that always been so?  This has very, very long been the case.  We’re talking a century or so.
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The whole push for EVs by the idiot Dems is nothing short of folly.  California will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER reach their stated goals.  Not even close to the realm of possibility.

And with American ingenuity, I see this technology being displaced before much longer.

And the fact is, many of the EVs are leased, and when they come off of lease, they are gathered by the manufacturers, and shipped overseas and sold at new car prices.  Check your used car lots.  You will see 1, maybe 2 EVs on the lot.  Half of America buys used cars, not new.  Imagine California pushing this nonsense.  Eventually there would be next to no used cars in CA for those that can't afford new EVs.  America will begin looking like Cuba, with folks driving OLD, OLD, OLD cars.

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Typical of leftists in power, they try to realize their idealisms without thinking things through.

There will NEVER be a time when any state can be 100% renewable or cars 100% EVs or 100% carbon neutral.  It is impossible to obtain.

Is there a niche for renewables and EVs? Yep, but to expand it to totally replace what we already have is the idiocy of leftists. Same thing with carbon-free thinking (especially as all animals exude CO2).

The recognition by America this is so is slowly now being realized.

The takeaway:  Never permit the leftists into power so we go down this road once again.

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Cyber wrote:
"Something I rarely hear about in these discussions is the average home is not wired to take such heavy loads as charging a car battery periodically.  They usually have 600 Amp services, when they are already using at peak 500 or so Amps"

Heh.
60 watt service here, with 15 amp FUSES.

Won't be hooking up an EV charger anytime soon.
(Or anything else, house has knob-and-tube wiring, and building codes ban ANYTHING new from being connected to it...)

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Cyber wrote:
"Something I rarely hear about in these discussions is the average home is not wired to take such heavy loads as charging a car battery periodically.  They usually have 600 Amp services, when they are already using at peak 500 or so Amps"

Heh.
60 watt service here, with 15 amp FUSES

Won't be hooking up an EV charger anytime soon.
(Or anything else, house has knob-and-tube wiring, and building codes ban ANYTHING new from being connected to it...)

I hear ya.  As a youngun, I worked electrical in a "Historic City," and all had some knob-and-tube.  Most had already been replaced but abandoned during renovations over the years.
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Cyber wrote:
"Something I rarely hear about in these discussions is the average home is not wired to take such heavy loads as charging a car battery periodically.  They usually have 600 Amp services, when they are already using at peak 500 or so Amps"

Heh.
60 watt service here, with 15 amp FUSES.

Won't be hooking up an EV charger anytime soon.
(Or anything else, house has knob-and-tube wiring, and building codes ban ANYTHING new from being connected to it...)

I have 200 amp service here and modern wiring but there won't be any EV chargers here either.
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The whole push for EVs by the idiot Dems is nothing short of folly.  California will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER reach their stated goals.  Not even close to the realm of possibility.

And with American ingenuity, I see this technology being displaced before much longer.

And the fact is, many of the EVs are leased, and when they come off of lease, they are gathered by the manufacturers, and shipped overseas and sold at new car prices.  Check your used car lots.  You will see 1, maybe 2 EVs on the lot.  Half of America buys used cars, not new.  Imagine California pushing this nonsense.  Eventually there would be next to no used cars in CA for those that can't afford new EVs.  America will begin looking like Cuba, with folks driving OLD, OLD, OLD cars.
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