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9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« on: September 11, 2024, 12:01:46 pm »
@Gefn  posted a lovely sentiment in the Members Lounge and I thought it would be appropriate for her post to lead off a 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial topic.  :patriot:

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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2024, 12:02:10 pm »
From @Gefn:


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Hello everyone- all my friends here -

I just wanted to say pop in and say hello. After I write this I am off all internet things today- no news, no watching kitty or puppy videos - just totally unplugging.

This morning 23 years ago was one of the worst days in American History. I still have nightmares sometimes about it- I know a few people who died on that day. I also recall going into Manhattan a couple days later and I will be forever spooked by all the Missing people  signs on poles like you would normally see for a lost cat or dog. ,

I also remember how nice everyone was. Because the big lesson was that you could die in the blink of an eye, and the only thing that matters is your family and your friends. Be nice to each other, cherish the small things.

I honestly feel like people here are my second family. Like a family, I don't always agree with things that are said here but I will respect your right to say it .It's all good. I am sure quite a few of you don't agree with me either .

What is important that know I love you all and cherish the friendships I have made here, with you all and people who have left us and are now in heaven

Cherish each other, love your families hug the heck out of your spouses, partners, children, grandchildren - and pets. Not only today but every day. Because we can al be gone in the twinkling of an eye.

G-d bless us all
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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2024, 12:07:51 pm »

I was eleven the day 9/11 happened. My father was already gone to work and my brother was already away to school.

I remember one of my mom's friends called and told her to turn on the TV ASAP and my mom asked "What channel?" and her friend said, "Any channel!"

I sat with my mom and watched as the second plane hit the World Trade Center. It was a bit of video I've never seen since and I remember the reporter in the helicopter saying, "Oh my God here comes another one!" and then the plane hit.

My father and brother eventually came home and we all sat around and watched the news.
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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2024, 12:53:14 pm »
I first heard about it while brushing my teeth.  When he second one hit, and I found out they were jetliners, I knew shit's on.  I went to work, then I left early when I found out Barbara Olson was in the plane that hit the Pentagon.  That hurt because she and I had exchanged comment on TOS.  A lovely lady!
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2024, 12:59:33 pm »
On that 9-11 day, I was already on my way to work and heard of the towers falling on the radio.  My bosses came into work and asked if I had heard the news.  They brought in a portable TV and we all briefly watched the news and we were just speechless as to what we were witnessing.  No words. Silence.  They called the day off, we all hugged and I went home and watched the news for most of the day with my husband.

The following days this country came together. It is unfortunate how fragmented this country has become since then.

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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2024, 02:27:24 pm »
Sad day for America, and to top it off for me was I lost my mother on this day too.

Thanks for the Barbara Olson links ... What a sad but inspirational story...
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2024, 02:34:45 pm »
Sad day for America, and to top it off for me was I lost my mother on this day too.

Thanks for the Barbara Olson links ... What a sad but inspirational story...

Wow.  Oh my goodness, my heart goes out to you on this day; that's quite an ordeal to have to deal with two tragedies in one day.

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2024, 02:52:02 pm »
On that 9-11 day, I was already on my way to work and heard of the towers falling on the radio.  My bosses came into work and asked if I had heard the news.  They brought in a portable TV and we all briefly watched the news and we were just speechless as to what we were witnessing.  No words. Silence.  They called the day off, we all hugged and I went home and watched the news for most of the day with my husband.

The following days this country came together. It is unfortunate how fragmented this country has become since then.

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Less than 8 years after 9/11, the nation elected a closet Moslem named "Barack Hussein."   9999hair out0000
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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2024, 02:54:57 pm »
I was working in the basement of a new building at UCI Medical Center connecting services to equipment in the Vivisection lab. There was no phone or radio service. I only found out when my young helper that I sent for material finally returned and told me. The young guy was just separated from the Marines due to health issues and was set to leave me  job unfinished because he was sure he was be recalled to the Corp. I didn’t see any of the video or pictures for hours and it was stressful not getting information while I was working.

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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2024, 03:19:07 pm »
I have always said why would we trust a people that we have been at war with for almost a 1000 years.  What did it take....   800 years to get them out of Spain?

These people are not our friends, nor will they ever be.

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2024, 03:31:59 pm »
We had some guys remodeling our kitchen on that day. After I let them in and they started their task, I went to my 'puter and got on TOS and saw the first reports, so I turned on the TV and told the workers they might want to see this. We all stood in our living room and watched in disbelief. I feel like I was in a state of shock for a couple of days.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2024, 03:39:50 pm »
We had some guys remodeling our kitchen on that day. After I let them in and they started their task, I went to my 'puter and got on TOS and saw the first reports, so I turned on the TV and told the workers they might want to see this. We all stood in our living room and watched in disbelief. I feel like I was in a state of shock for a couple of days.

I was in my office at work, and got a call from my wife to check the internet.  Saw and watched the details from CNN.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2024, 06:27:23 pm »
I will never forget the horror and grief I felt on that day. It  was life changing for me.

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Re: 9/11 Remembrance and Memorial Topic for 2024
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2024, 07:37:07 pm »
I have always said why would we trust a people that we have been at war with for almost a 1000 years.  What did it take....   800 years to get them out of Spain?

These people are not our friends, nor will they ever be.

Never forget 11 Sept 2001.

You are right and their own words make your case:

Speaking at Kanal D TV’s Arena program, PM Erdogan commented on the term “moderate Islam”, often used in the West to describe AKP and said, ‘These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”Source: Milliyet, Turkey, August 21, 2007
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2024, 09:36:37 pm »
Watching documentaries on the history channel and getting angry all over again.  **nononono*
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2024, 10:23:30 pm »
If another 9/11 type event struck NYC again, I wouldn’t shed a tear this time around.  They vote every time now to set this country up for destruction, so eff ‘em.

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2024, 10:45:01 pm »
This is the first year I haven't obsessively watched the docs.  I am recording most, and will watch most, but I've only seen about 2 today.  Partly too busy and distracted, have to share TV time, etc.

As for that day - I'll never forget it.  Even us remote people have stories.  I did not find out until 10, as we always had a 9 meeting Tuesdays and I and a couple team members walked over in the gorgeous idyllic morning (as it would be all day) to our meeting, unaware anything was happening.  1 of our group went to bathroom just prior to 10 and got a "Blackberry" message from his wife, stating "planes hit WTC and Pentagon".  Meeting adjourned.  Saw some footage and just missed the 1sst collapse.

We were right next to the BWI runway and it was completely surreal walking back hearing the planes coming in incessantly, seeing MANY of them lining up in the distance.  We hung around doing nothing and I went to lunch.  Coming back (the cars were now all lined up to leave work, having been dismissed while I was out) and later it was surreal that it was TOTALLY SILENT.

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2024, 03:04:09 pm »
I used to keep up with a Canadian forum and one of the members was from Gander where a bunch of American planes were forced to land. He ended up being close friends with the family that lived with him for a while.

I guess there were a few positive things that day and the people in Gander were one of them.
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2024, 03:28:07 pm »
I used to keep up with a Canadian forum and one of the members was from Gander where a bunch of American planes were forced to land. He ended up being close friends with the family that lived with him for a while.

I guess there were a few positive things that day and the people in Gander were one of them.

Watch “9/11:  Control the Skies”.  Excellent show about Gander and the unbelievable chaos they were thrown into.  Amazing seeing so many 747s on the tarmac, period, much less there.  Had heard the stories about this aspect but this show is the only one that really covers it.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2024, 07:03:12 pm »
A little late, I know... but I was in my teens, just a few years older than @MeganC .

Unlike most my age, I wasn't in school. At the time, I was engaged in a prolonged, ultimately losing battle against the local public school where I was attending, trying to find a way for literally any other schooling option than to go back into the student population that had so traumatized me the year prior. That's a story I might tell some time, though not in this public forum—but it had a major formative impact on my social and political beliefs. For that reason, 9/11 has a much different, more personal meaning to me.

It was a Tuesday morning. Bright and sunny; I live a few hundred miles from New York City where the towers were. I was home, watching TV, the morning news, around 8:50 a.m. when CBS broke in with the news of the first airliner hitting the tower. And for those first few minutes, everyone assumed it could have been an accident, a miscalculated flight path. I must have left the room—I know I took a walk that morning but I can't remember exactly when—but I didn't see the second plane hit the other tower as it happened. I'll admit I didn't quite grasp the gravity of the situation when it happened. I remember saying to someone that day, with almost a shrug, "they're saying it might be deliberate."

Within a couple of hours, it became abundantly obvious.

There are two glaring memories I have of the next several days. The first was going out a couple of nights afterward, while the entire American air fleet had been grounded, and watching a night sky with no airplanes. (Of course, some yokel decided to fly his own personal aircraft that night.) The second... was the sheer, incessant drumbeat of news. You couldn't escape it. This was back before our family had the Internet, and we didn't have cable. All the music radio stations, all the sports talk stations, dropped all their programming and began simulcasting the cable news channels. All the sports teams cancelled their games. I always had to scratch my head at that line in Alan Jackson's song about "turn on I Love Lucy reruns" when there were no I Love Lucy reruns at the time. It was all 9/11, all the time. It was stifling, there was no real escape.

But I do remember as the days passed... that was the last time we as a nation truly came together. I have to think that the reason we haven't been able to since... is social media. Facebook, Twitter / X, Instagram. They foist the most heinous, divisive content on everyone, make you hate your neighbor. If something on the scale of 9/11 were to happen today, everyone would be pointing fingers at their fellow American, and finding community with others who share the direction in which their fingers are pointing. And you end up with increasingly radical political candidates, and increasingly radical leaders, as a result.

Once upon a time I referred to 9/11 as the day America jumped the shark: that point after which everything went downhill. Perhaps that's unfair in hindsight: jumping the shark is usually an idiom used for the event that happens AFTER the decline has begun but that it had just become more obvious, and I don't think it had begun yet.

Now we have a whole generation that never witnessed it or doesn't remember it, and that has to factor into the way they see the world. Would you have ever seen such a pro-Palestine movement in 2002, knowing how Hamas was (still is) in solidarity with other Islamic terrorists? Of course not.

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2024, 08:12:23 pm »
A little late, I know... but I was in my teens, just a few years older than @MeganC .

Unlike most my age, I wasn't in school. At the time, I was engaged in a prolonged, ultimately losing battle against the local public school where I was attending, trying to find a way for literally any other schooling option than to go back into the student population that had so traumatized me the year prior. That's a story I might tell some time, though not in this public forum—but it had a major formative impact on my social and political beliefs. For that reason, 9/11 has a much different, more personal meaning to me.

It was a Tuesday morning. Bright and sunny; I live a few hundred miles from New York City where the towers were. I was home, watching TV, the morning news, around 8:50 a.m. when CBS broke in with the news of the first airliner hitting the tower. And for those first few minutes, everyone assumed it could have been an accident, a miscalculated flight path. I must have left the room—I know I took a walk that morning but I can't remember exactly when—but I didn't see the second plane hit the other tower as it happened. I'll admit I didn't quite grasp the gravity of the situation when it happened. I remember saying to someone that day, with almost a shrug, "they're saying it might be deliberate."

Within a couple of hours, it became abundantly obvious.

There are two glaring memories I have of the next several days. The first was going out a couple of nights afterward, while the entire American air fleet had been grounded, and watching a night sky with no airplanes. (Of course, some yokel decided to fly his own personal aircraft that night.) The second... was the sheer, incessant drumbeat of news. You couldn't escape it. This was back before our family had the Internet, and we didn't have cable. All the music radio stations, all the sports talk stations, dropped all their programming and began simulcasting the cable news channels. All the sports teams cancelled their games. I always had to scratch my head at that line in Alan Jackson's song about "turn on I Love Lucy reruns" when there were no I Love Lucy reruns at the time. It was all 9/11, all the time. It was stifling, there was no real escape.

But I do remember as the days passed... that was the last time we as a nation truly came together. I have to think that the reason we haven't been able to since... is social media. Facebook, Twitter / X, Instagram. They foist the most heinous, divisive content on everyone, make you hate your neighbor. If something on the scale of 9/11 were to happen today, everyone would be pointing fingers at their fellow American, and finding community with others who share the direction in which their fingers are pointing. And you end up with increasingly radical political candidates, and increasingly radical leaders, as a result.

Once upon a time I referred to 9/11 as the day America jumped the shark: that point after which everything went downhill. Perhaps that's unfair in hindsight: jumping the shark is usually an idiom used for the event that happens AFTER the decline has begun but that it had just become more obvious, and I don't think it had begun yet.

Now we have a whole generation that never witnessed it or doesn't remember it, and that has to factor into the way they see the world. Would you have ever seen such a pro-Palestine movement in 2002, knowing how Hamas was (still is) in solidarity with other Islamic terrorists? Of course not.

I weep for the fallen, and I weep for the nation that we once were, but are no more.

Very well written @jmyrlefuller  and I hadn't really thought about it till now but both my children had just graduated high school within a year of each other at the time. Their cousin who is a few years older, within a few months after 9-11, joined the army and is still serving. 

You are right, there is now a whole generation that didn't hear or watch the news that day nor witnessed how the country came together afterwards. I am doubtful how much the history books in school accurately document what happened that day in history.

You make a very valid point about social media being so instrumental in creating a divided America.

Yes, I too weep for the fallen, and I also weep for the nation that we once were.

God Bless America and may he have mercy on our country.  :patriot: