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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #575 on: September 12, 2024, 07:08:43 am »
Donald Trump on Fox News this morning: “I don't know that I want to do another debate."

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #576 on: September 12, 2024, 08:03:47 am »
Donald Trump on Fox News this morning: “I don't know that I want to do another debate."

https://x.com/i/status/1833847529995219344

I wouldn't bother if I were him, it benefits her, because nobody knows her yet.

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #577 on: September 12, 2024, 08:59:43 am »
The terms for a next debate for *Kamala Harris* to debate Donald Trump should be__

1. Standing debate for 90 minutes, no breaks,
2. No standing boxes or height adjustments of any kind,
3. No notes, no electronics,
4. No moderator(s),
5. Microphones on.


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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #578 on: September 12, 2024, 09:04:36 am »
Look -- this thread is about Trump's debate last night-- I'm not trying to turn this thread into a Trump vs. DeSantis which is pretty futile at this point.

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« Reply #579 on: September 12, 2024, 09:23:21 am »

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I am NOT looking at this debate in the format of a formal debate like we are educated on.  My assessment is solely based on outcome.  Nothing else.

Let's face it, most people are decided for Trump or for Harris, and I think it is safe to say between now and election day, almost no one will be convinced to change their position.  But for the undecided, which are largely independent voters, I believe if he walked away with 60%, and Harris obtained 30%, that is a huge victory.  Still a little early to nail it as a victory, but the reports I have heard to date indicate a Trump victory.

I said, wait two weeks to see the outcome of the debate.  It will allow the necessary time for people to assess their position, and perhaps decide what side of the fence they are on.  But clearly, cost of living is the primary issue for the undecided.  And with that being the primary issue, I know where folks will land. 

Finally, the poor performance of the moderators will further hurt ABC viewership overall.  In the 90s, I remember settling in with my kids to watch a whole evening of comedy shows on ABC, Home Improvement was our favorite.  We all laughed, and laughed with each show.  Those days are gone.  I can honestly say I have not turned to ABC to watch anything in years.

More people will begin turning the channel, and ABC will drop in viewership.  But when billionaires own these assets(in this case, Warren Buffett), losing money is no big deal when they can hold the strings of the likes of Obama, Biden, and perhaps Harris soon.

When's the last time we had an actual presidential debate? Kennedy/Nixon perhaps. A debate is two people on stage debating issues without any moderation. I haven't seen that in a VERY long time. These media circuses we call debates these days are anything but!

I agree with you @jafo2010 Trump is NEVER going to be allowed back in the Whitehouse because there are too many $Trillions at risk if he does. I pray every day that I'm wrong about that but my gut says I'm not.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #580 on: September 12, 2024, 09:27:59 am »
CNN’s Tapper: Harris ‘Dodged’ on Border, Economy, Was Vague on Israel

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On Wednesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Lead,” host Jake Tapper said that, during the debate on Tuesday, 2024 Democratic presidential candidate Vice President Kamala Harris avoided questions on if people are better off than they were four years ago, if she would have handled the border differently than President Joe Biden and was vague on how she’d handle the Israel-Hamas war, while 2024 Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump ducked questions on an abortion ban and the Ukraine-Russia War.

Tapper began the segment by saying that “there are many reasons why this debate did not go well for Mr. Trump. One might be exemplified by his staggeringly absurd lie about migrants in Springfield, OH eating local neighbors’ cats and dogs.” Later, in the segment, Trump’s statements about Springfield were a “more than a little bit racist” lie, have to be the nuttiest subject to ever come up in a presidential debate, and are the result of Trump being stuck in a “misinformation silo.”

He added that “both Trump and Harris fell short of giving straightforward answers to questions about how exactly they would run the country.”

Tapper then noted that Harris punted on whether Americans are better off than they were four years ago, “dodged” on if she would have done differently than President Joe Biden on the border, and didn’t really give any details on how she would get a ceasefire-hostage deal in the Israel-Hamas war.

He added, “Trump, meanwhile, was also busy not answering big questions” on things like whether he’d veto a national abortion ban or whether Ukraine beating Russia would be in America’s interest.

Tapper further stated that Trump’s claim that he “had nothing to do with the disaster of January 6 is so obviously false, it is rather stunning.”

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #581 on: September 12, 2024, 09:28:23 am »
The terms for a next debate for *Kamala Harris* to debate Donald Trump should be__

1. Standing debate for 90 minutes, no breaks,
2. No standing boxes or height adjustments of any kind,
3. No notes, no electronics, to include ear rings
4. No moderator(s),
5. Microphones on.

I agree completely! @Right_in_Virginia
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« Reply #582 on: September 12, 2024, 09:34:05 am »
I agree completely! @Right_in_Virginia

I'd pay good money to watch *this* debate.@Bigun:beer:

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« Reply #583 on: September 12, 2024, 09:37:23 am »
When's the last time we had an actual presidential debate? Kennedy/Nixon perhaps. A debate is two people on stage debating issues without any moderation. I haven't seen that in a VERY long time. These media circuses we call debates these days are anything but!

I agree with you @jafo2010 Trump is NEVER going to be allowed back in the Whitehouse because there are too many $Trillions at risk if he does. I pray every day that I'm wrong about that but my gut says I'm not.


Ditto!  The leftists are never ever going to give up their power and they will do everything that they can to ensure that, that doesn't happen.

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« Reply #584 on: September 12, 2024, 09:38:09 am »
I'd pay good money to watch *this* debate.@Bigun:beer:

So would I but we will NEVER see it!  :beer: @Right_in_Virginia
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #588 on: September 12, 2024, 10:51:29 am »

https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1834038486258930011

Well, for what it's worth, this is an excerpt of a campaign ad that I rec'd in an e-mail for Bernie Mereno in OH:

What we’re witnessing in Ohio right now is a complete breakdown of law and order, thanks to the radical policies of Sherrod Brown and Kamala Harris.

Families are terrified, communities have delved into complete chaos, and law-abiding American citizens are forced to stand by and watch – all because Sherrod Brown and Kamala Harris are hell-bent on putting illegal immigrants over YOU.

This isn’t some far-off border issue. It’s happening in our backyard – literally.


No, it doesn't prove that what is going on with the Haitians in OH is true, but it does perhaps give some validity to the situation??

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« Reply #589 on: September 12, 2024, 10:58:26 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IhW2PWbA8


Ok, thanks to watching this on YT I got more info.  Then searched.

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/10/canton-woman-accused-of-eating-cat-not-haitian-from-springfield-ohio/75157976007/

This is a report from Canton, where this actually is, saying it’s not Haitian.  Many people on the video comments State she is mental and or on drugs.

Let’s stick to facts.  This man does not verify he is in Springfield or his exact name, but he tells mostly of driver licenses handed out, and also mentions them killing and taking water fowl from the parks.  And he’s heard of pet stories but doesn’t know.

https://youtu.be/gZADwzk5D2U?si=Z1uQKO_LRu1vv-hl
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« Reply #590 on: September 12, 2024, 11:07:48 am »
Ok, thanks to watching this on YT I got more info.  Then searched.

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/10/canton-woman-accused-of-eating-cat-not-haitian-from-springfield-ohio/75157976007/

This is a report from Canton, where this actually is, saying it’s not Haitian.  Many people on the video comments State she is mental and or on drugs.

Let’s stick to facts.  This man does not verify he is in Springfield or his exact name, but he tells mostly of driver licenses handed out, and also mentions them killing and taking water fowl from the parks.  And he’s heard of pet stories but doesn’t know.

https://youtu.be/gZADwzk5D2U?si=Z1uQKO_LRu1vv-hl

FACT:  Regardless if the Haitians are eating people's pets or not they have indeed INVADED Ohio and the Harris administration has given them Temporary Protection, which by the way will never remain temporary.  The town that is invaded will remain invaded and the ILLEGAL INVADERS are going to be protected against any punishments for crimes committed!!

Let's stick to the real problem and please, do NOT make any excuse for the invasion that is happening in this country.

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #591 on: September 12, 2024, 11:19:43 am »
ABC Debate Moderator’s Fact Check Ignores What Tim Walz’s State Can Do To Infants Born Alive After Attempted Abortions


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September 11, 2024 1:39 PM ET


Linsey Davis, the ABC host who fact checked former President Donald Trump’s abortion claims during Tuesday’s debate, ignored that infants born alive in Minnesota following an unsuccessful abortion can be left for dead.

Trump claimed during Tuesday’s debate that some Democratic states allow infants born after failed abortions to be killed, pointing to Democratic vice presidential nominee and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s home state specifically. The statement prompted Davis to say “there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born.”

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #593 on: September 12, 2024, 11:55:21 am »
Muir's career especially needs to be ruined.   Those 30 pieces of silver should come at a price.
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« Reply #594 on: September 12, 2024, 12:31:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1834253142285754801

I saw this flipping around, I thought i was AI generated or something. No way that actually happened.

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« Reply #595 on: September 12, 2024, 12:32:07 pm »
FACT:  Regardless if the Haitians are eating people's pets or not they have indeed INVADED Ohio and the Harris administration has given them Temporary Protection, which by the way will never remain temporary.  The town that is invaded will remain invaded and the ILLEGAL INVADERS are going to be protected against any punishments for crimes committed!!

Let's stick to the real problem and please, do NOT make any excuse for the invasion that is happening in this country.

Please read the rest and watch a bit of the 2nd film.

My point is we need to show real facts and not mixed-up stuff.  It doesn’t help the cause to use Willy-Nilly haphazard news.

Such is much like the libs using any fake hate crime to push the “fact” that racism is real and we need to learn from this though it is not real.

Something bad is happening around Springfield but we need to vet exactly what that is.  The man says water fowl “hunting” and gov giving them driver licenses which is much like our other illegals causing accidents without license or insurance.
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« Reply #596 on: September 12, 2024, 12:32:47 pm »
FACT:  Regardless if the Haitians are eating people's pets or not they have indeed INVADED Ohio and the Harris administration has given them Temporary Protection, which by the way will never remain temporary.  The town that is invaded will remain invaded and the ILLEGAL INVADERS are going to be protected against any punishments for crimes committed!!

Let's stick to the real problem and please, do NOT make any excuse for the invasion that is happening in this country.

Thing is Trump mentioned it during the debate... the specific allegation. So unfortunately he made this particular aspect... relevant. Really would rather he not talk about things "he saw on television".

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« Reply #597 on: September 12, 2024, 12:35:35 pm »

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1834253142285754801

I like that.  Biden got likeable and so did the Trump man.  Wish our discourse could be more like that.
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« Reply #598 on: September 12, 2024, 12:36:39 pm »
Thing is Trump mentioned it during the debate... the specific allegation. So unfortunately he made this particular aspect... relevant. Really would rather he not talk about things "he saw on television".

Especially things he JUST heard about.  Again if I had just heard about this, I would not bring it up until I knew more about it to be sure.
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« Reply #599 on: September 12, 2024, 01:16:00 pm »
I wouldn't bother if I were him, it benefits her, because nobody knows her yet.
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